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ex_yathed (ex_yathed)
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Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes The Gates Of Delirium lyrics Yes The Gates Of Delirium lyrics


La la, la la la la la la
la la la la la la la, la la la.
Stand and fight we do consider
Reminded of an inner pact between us
That's seen as we go
And ride there
In motion
To fields in debts of honour defending
Stand the marchers soaring talons
Peaceful lives will not deliver freedom
Fighting we know,
Destroy oppression
The point to reaction
As leaders look to you attacking
Choose and renounce throwing chains to the floor
Kill or be killing faster sins correct the flow
Casting giant shadows off vast
Penetrating force
To alter via the war that seen
As frictions spans the spirits' wrath ascending to redeem
Wars that shout in screams of anguish
Power spent passion bespoils our soul receiver
Surely we know.
In glory we rise to offer,
Create our freedom, a word, we utter a word.
Words cause our banner, victorious our day
Will silence be promised as violence display
The curse increased we fight the pow'r and live by it by day
Our Gods awake in thunderous roars and guide
The leader's hands in paths of glory to the cause
Listen should we fight forever
Knowing as we do know
Fear destroys?
Listen should we leave our children?
Listen our lives stare in silence
Help us now
Listen your friends have been broken
They tell us of your poison
Now we know
Kill them give them as they give us
Slay them burn their children's laughter
On to Hell
The fist will run
Grasp metal to gun
The spirit sings in crashing tones we gain the battle drum
Our cries will shrill the air will moan and crash into the dawn
The pen won't stay the demon's wings, the hour approaches
Pounding out the Devil's sermon
Soon oh soon the light
Pass within and soothe this endless night
And wait here for you
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the time
All we move to gain will reach and calm
Our heart is open
Our reason to be here
Long ago, set into rhyme
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
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ex_yathed (ex_yathed)
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Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My THEME song!!!

Artist: Rush
Album: Signals
Title: New World Man


Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson

He's a rebel and a runner
He's a signal turning green
He's a restless young romantic
Wants to run the big machine

He's got a problem with his poisons
But you know he'll find a cure
He's cleaning up his systems
To keep his nature pure

Learning to match the beat of the old world man
Learning to catch the heat of the third world man

He's got to make his own mistakes
And learn to mend the mess he makes
He's old enough to know what's right
But young enough not to choose it
He's noble enough to win the world
But weak enough to lose it ---
He's a new world man...

He's a radio receiver
Tuned to factories and farms
He's a writer and arranger
And a young boy bearing arms

He's got a problem with his power
With weapons on patrol
He's got to walk a fine line
And keep his self-control

Trying to save the day for the old world man
Trying to pave the way for the third world man

He's not concerned with yesterday
He knows constant change is here today
He's noble enough to know what's right
But weak enough not to choose it
He's wise enough to win the world
But fool enough to lose it ---

He's a new world man...
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ex_yathed (ex_yathed)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 8:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Driving The Last Spike
by Genesis
album: We Can't Dance (1991),

Leaving my family behind me
not knowing what lay ahead
waving goodbye, as I left them in tears
remembering all we'd said

I looked to the sky, I offered my prayers
I asked Him for guidance and strength
but the simple beliefs of a simple man
lay in His hands, and on my head (my head)

I gave everything that they wanted
but still they wanted more
we sweat and we toiled
good men lost their lives
I don't think they knew what for

I sold them my heart
I sold them my soul
I gave everything I had
Ah, but they couldn't break my spirit
my dignity fought back
(fight back)
(just fight back)

Ah, can you hear me?
Can you see?
Don't you hear me?
Don't you see?

We worked in gangs for all we were worth
the young boys pulling the wagons
We were digging the tunnel, shifting the earth
It was then that it happened.

No one knew how the cracks appeared,
but as it fell they all disappeared
stone fell like rain

Ah, can an you hear me?
Can you see?
Don't you hear me?
(Can) Can you breathe?

The smoke cleared, the dust it settled
No one knew how many had died
All around there were broken men
They'd said it was safe, they'd lied
you could hear the cries, you could smell our fear
but good fortune that day was mine
and it occurred to me that the heart of a good man-
it seems is hard to find.

Ah, can you hear me?
Can you see?
(Don't) Don't you hear me?
(Don't) Don't you see?

We worked, how we worked like
the devil for our pay
through the wind, through the snow,
and through the rain

Blasting, cutting through God's country like a knife
with sweat stinging my eyes, there has to be a better life

But I can hear my childrens' cry
I can see the tears in their eyes
memories of those I've left behind
still ringing in my ears
Will I ever go back again?
Will I ever see her face again?
Cause I'll always remember the night-
As they waved goodbye to their fathers

We came from the South,
we came from the North
with picks and with spades
and a new kind of order
showing no fear of what lies up ahead
They'll never see the likes of us again

Driving the last spike,
lifting and laying the track
with blistering hands,
the sun burning your back

But I can hear my childrens' cry
I can see the tears in their eyes
oh the memories of those I've left behind
they're still ringing in my ears
Well I'll always remember that night,
As they waved goodbye to their fathers

We followed the rail, we slept under the stars
digging in darkness, and living with danger
showing no fear of what lies up ahead
they'll never see the likes of us again.

Ah, can you hear me?
Can you see?
(Don't) Don't you hear me?
(Don't) Don't you see?
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andy_n (andy_n)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wow, do those bring back memories. And the slight shift in context is uncanny. hmmm
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ex_yathed (ex_yathed)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For those with ears to hear...

God speaks to us all the time!

We just dont listen too well...

"Be careful how you hear"
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ex_yathed (ex_yathed)
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To my special one...

"Haven't Got Time for the Pain"
Carly Simon 1974

All those crazy nights when I cried myself to sleep
Now melodrama never makes me weep anymore
'Cause I haven't got time for the pain
I haven't got room for the pain
I haven't the need for the pain
Not since I've known you


You showed me how, how to leave myself behind
How to turn down the noise in my mind
Now I haven't got time for the pain
I haven't got room for the pain
I haven't the need for the pain
Not since I've known you


Suffering was the only thing that made me feel I was alive
Though that's just how much it cost to survive in this world
'Til you showed me how, how to fill my heart with love
How to open up and drink in all that white love
Pouring down from the heaven


I haven't got time for the pain
I haven't got room for the pain
I haven't the need for the pain
Not since I've known you
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nabashalam
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You can play the game,
you can act out the part,
but you know it wasnt written for you.

Tell me how can you stand there,
with your broken heart,
afraid of playing the fool,
One thing can lead to another,
It dont take any sacrifice,
Oh, Father, and Mother,
Sister and Brother,
If it feels right,
Than dont think twice,
Just shower the people you love with love,
Show them the way that you feel,
Things are gonna be just fine,
if you only will,
You can run, but you can not hide,
This is widely known,
Tell me how can you stand there,
with your foolish pride,
when your all by yourself alone,
Once you tell somebody the way that you feel,
You can feel it beginning to ease,
I guess its true what they say,
about the squeaky wheel,
always getting the grease,
So you just, Shower the people you love with love,
Show them the way you feel,
Things are gonna be much better,
if you only will, do as i say, now,
Shower the people you love with love,
Show them the way you feel,
Things are gonna be just fine, if you only will
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solomon_7
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2005
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Limelight"

Living on a lighted stage
Approaches the unreal
For those who think and feel
In touch with some reality
Beyond the gilded cage

Cast in this unlikely role
Ill-equipped to act
With insufficient tact
One must put up barriers
To keep oneself intact

[Chorus:]
Living in the limelight
The universal dream
For those who wish to seem
Those who wish to be
Must put aside the alienation
Get on with the fascination
The real relation
The underlying theme

Living in a fish eye lens
Caught in the camera eye
I have no heart to lie
I can't pretend a stranger
Is a long-awaited friend

All the world's indeed a stage
And we are merely players
Performers and portrayers
Each another's audience
Outside the gilded cage
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nabashalam
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OOOOOH! Solomon likes Rush!

Showin your age there Schlomo!
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wonderingaboutalot
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If the tt are not who they say they are (which I have not decided or concluded yet) then this applies. this song comforted me when I left.
This is a song that David Crosby wrote called
"Laughing".
"I thought I met a man, who said he knew a man, That
knew what was going on.
I was mistaken, only another stranger, that I knew.
And I thought I had found a light, to guide me
through, My night and all this darkness.
I was mistaken, Only reflections of a shadow, that I
saw.
And I thought I'd seen someone, who seemed at last
to know the truth.
I was mistaken, Only a child laughing In the sun."
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nabashalam
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"Only a child laughing In the sun."

Now theres the truth for you! NOTHING MATTERS!
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solomon_7
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OHHHHH YEAAAHHHH! "RELAYER" , MY GOD, WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?


ALMOST LIKE LOVE BY YES


Who was it organizing the right
To follow my leader
Seems we look and stand around waiting
For a sign from God
Speaking for myself
The christian need
The muslim need
The buddhist need
To testify the need for brotherly love
I know there's so many hundred things
Things to talk about
Making us laugh
Just like a shakespeare revolution
Please organize our spiritual evolution
Do that you'll feel it
And we'll feel it
Appreciate it's almost like love
It's almost like love
It's almost like love
It's almost like love
Saint or sinner
Makes no difference in who you believe
In a world of superstition
Caught in a total nuclear greed
Pioneers of the twenty first century
Looking on and looking fast
To try and fix and try and help
This very need
I know there's so many ways
That we can work it out
Whether we live or die
Please organize the simple evolution
so there's got to be
so we can see
to be free
It's almost like love
It's almost like love
It's almost like love
So promised in a hundred letters
Should be getting to you any time now
So promised a surprise for you
For getting so far from now
It's almost like love
The way the first one out discovers
It's almost like
How many times can you recover
It's almost
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like
It's almost like love
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nabashalam
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Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Dance of the Dawn"

Album : Tales from Topographic Oceans
Artist : Yes

SHRUTIS: The Revealing Science of God can be seen as an ever-opening flower
in which simple truths emerge examining the complexities and magic of the past
and how we should not forget the song that has been left to us to hear. The
knowledge of God is a search, constant and clear.


Dawn of light lying between a silence and sold sources,
Cahsed amid fusions of wonder, in moments hardly seen forgotten
Coloured in pastures of chance dancing leaves cast spells of challenge,
Amused but real in thought, we fled from the sea whole.
Dawn of thought transfered through moments of days undersearching earth
Revealing corridors of time provoking memories, disjointed but with
purpose,
Craving penetrations offer links with the self instructor's sharp
and tender love as we took to the air, a picture of distance.
Dawn of our power we amuse redescending as fast as misused
Expression, as only to teach love as to reveal passion chasing
Late into corners, and we danced from the ocean.
Dawn of love sent within us colours of awakening among the many
Won't to follow, only tunes of a different age, as the links span
Our endless caresses for the freedom of life everlasting.

Talk tothe sunlight caller
Soft summer mover distance mine

Called out a tune but I never saw the face
Heard but not replaced
I ventured to talk, but I never lost my place

Cast out a spell rendered for the light of day
Lost in lights array
I ventured to see, as the sound began to play

What happened to this song we once knew so well
Signed promise for moments caught within the spell
I must have waited all my life for this
Moment moment

The future poised with the splendour just begun
The light we were as one
And crowded through the curtains of liquid into sun

And for a moment when our world had filled the skies
Magic turned our eyes
To feast on the treasure set for our strange device

What happened to wonders we once knew so well
Did we forget what happened surely we can tell
We must have waited all our lives for this
Moment moment moment
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nabashalam
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"Dance of the Dawn" cont.

Star light movements in seasons
Release forward
Tallest rainbow
Sun shower seasons
Life flower reasons

They move fast, they tell me,
But I just can't believe that I can feel it
There's someone, to tell you,
amidthe challenge we look around in unison with you

Getting over overhanging trees
Let them rape the forest
Thoughts would send our fusion
Clearly to be home

Getting over wars we do not mean
Or so it seems so clearly
Sheltered with our passion
Clearly to be home

They move fast, they tell me,
But I just can't believe they really mean to
There's someone, to tell you,
And I just can't believe our song will leave you
Skyline teacher
Warland seeker
Send out poison
Cast iron leader

And through the rhythm of moving slowly
Sent through the rhythm work out the story
Move over glory to sons of old fighters past.
Young Christians see it from the beginning
Old people feel it that's what they're saying
Move over glory to sons of old fighters past.

The move fast, they tell me,
But I just can't believe they really mean to
There's someone, to tell you,
A course towards a universal season

Getting over overhanging trees let them
Rape the forest, they might stand and leave them
Clearly to be home
Getting over wars we do not mean
We charm the movement suffers
Call out all our memories
Clearly to be home

We've moved fast
We need love
A part we offer is our only freedom

What happened to this song we once knew so well
Signed promise for moments caught within the spell
We must have waited all our lives for this
Moment moment

Past present movers moments we'll process the future, but only
To touch him we know, send flowered rainbows
That chased flowers of dark and lights of songs
To you, show all we feel for and know of, cast round,
Youth is the truth accepting that reasons will relive
And breathe hope and chase and love
For you and you and you
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nabashalam
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"The Prophet"

Album : Time and a Word
Artist : Yes

(Anderson/Squire)

Long ago a tall man told a tale of yesterday,
Searching for the truth to life and not for just a way.
Finding pleasure from this house his ears, they did obey;
In his life a moment's pleasure, never to delay.
He was lost and in his trust he found a new meaning;
Seeing the things in diff'rent lights his life was redeemed.

Words of peace will fill his mind and change his way of life;
Peaceful meetings with his heart have made him more alive.
Meeting wise old women on the cliffs of life itself;
Asking not for pers'nal meaning, more for just himself.
Soon we'll be as he proclaimed in a new way of living;
Take the things you need in life but remember the giving.

Prophesy within your mind and you will work it out;
Prophesy that some will die but only those who doubt.
Then you'll never worry as sometimes you used to do;
Just remember when you're gone there's someone after you, you.
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nabashalam
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"The One"

Album : Keys to Ascension
Artist : Yes

Never underestimate the loving
How we intertwine our very soul
How we fill each other's spaces
To lose control
When you're talking be the children
Who stand on solid ground
Never underestimate the giving
That will bring you round

I'll be there
To bring you this love in the morning
I'll be there
To bring you the stars at night
I'll be there just waiting to hear you singing

Never underestimate a giver
The gift of love will surely be
When you're asking for the secret
To set you free
When you're talking to the friendship
That love of higher self
This gift of love is
The answer to all your doubts

Be the one, giving in to love
Never let the good in life desert you
Be the one, giving in to love
Never let the fools destroy your dreams
Be the one, giving in to love
I can dream myself every minute
So how did we become
Masters of limitation?

I'll be there
I'll be there
I'll be there
To make it right for you

Giving in, giving in to love
It's the balance of this everyday feeling
Giving in, giving in to love
Without love our dreams become illusion
Giving in, giving in to love
I can hear you singing every minute
So you can sing the song, and see the truth
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nabashalam
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I gotta million of them Schlomo!

"The Messenger"

Album : The Ladder
Artist : Yes

Anderson/Squire/Howe/White/Sherwood/Khoroshev

Judging by the voice
He was free to himself so real
We slaved ourselves to sacrifice
More than that we do not know
Then you hear him on the radio
He would play the sacred themes
That my children sang to me

Amazing as it seems
It was the answer to my dream
His heart that touches me
More than that I do not not know
Then I hear him on the radio
Remembering his every word

That my children sing to me
We have seen the world, this ecstasy
Now my children sing to me
This loving place, beyond belief

You got to stand stand to to together
Keep the message alive

You got to stand stand to to together
To keep the message alive

Spirit up moving, spirit up
Rhythm of sunfire

You got to stand stand to to together
Keep the message alive

Listening for his words
He would speak in ancient verse
So we mesmerize a way to go
Reaching out the universe
Reaching out the universal
Not afraid to learn new words

That our children sing to us
We have seen the world, this ecstasy
So his children bring to us
This inner peace, beyond belief

You got to stand stand to to together
Keep the message alive

You got to stand stand to to together
To keep the message alive

Spirit up moving, spirit up
Rhythm of sunfire

You got to stand stand to to together
Keep the message alive

One voice
One world
One touch
One life... truly, truly say it
One world... one voice
One touch... truly, truly say it
Some people realise
Some people see it
From the beginning
One world... one touch
One voice... one life
One touch... one voice... one world... one life
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nabashalam
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"The Spirit of Survival"

Album : Magnification
Artist : Yes

Anderson/Howe/Squire/White
September 11, 2001

In this world the gods have lost their way

Can’t keep this picture from out of my mind
This fear hand in hand crossing innocence, time
Surrounding creation they caught in a trap
The youngest offenders will witness confusion

They driving so fast not a care in the end
Escaping collision every twist every bend
When you’re young invincible nothing to lose
Keep seeing this picture standing in a circle
The gods have forgotten to switch on the light
Who’s lost in the dark will crash in the night

These lessons we’re living the lies of the day
Expect them to honor and never disobey
Yet greed is controlling the elders display
No wonder the younger look at them in shame

The spirit of survival
Who’s teaching the hatred
The spirit of survival
Or the class of your school
The spirit of survival
The color of your money
We’re standing in a circle
We don’t understand at all

They don’t understand at all
In this world I truly do believe there is a safer place
In this world I truly do believe there is a safer place

The younger the older the wiser become
Recover misfortune this true life as one
Our genius is shining the past has all gone
What’s left is the clearest perception of one
The spirit of survival
To magnify the power
The spirit of survival
To magnify the soul
The spirit of survival
To magnify the love
We're standing in a circle
We don't understand at all

We don’t understand at all


In this world the gods have lost their way
In this world the gods have lost their way
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nabashalam
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This one really speaks to me...

"Parallels"

Album : Yesshows
Artist : Yes

(Squire)

When you've tried most everything and nothing's taking you higher.
When you come to realize, you've been playing with fire.
Hear me when I say to you, it's really down to your heart.

It's the beginning of a new love in sight.
You've got the way to make it all happen.
Set it spinning turning roundabout.
Create a new dimension.
When we are winning we can stop and shout
making love towards perfection.

I've been all around the world and seen so many faces.
Young and old a story told, filling in my spaces.
Now without a trce of doubt I feel it every hour.

It's the beginning of a new love inside.
Could be an ever opening flower.
No hesitation when we're all about
to build a shining tower.
No explanations, need to work it out.
You know we've got the power.

Parallel our sights.
And we will find, that we, we need, to be, where we, belong.
Parallel our heights
display our rights, and wrongs, and always keep it--STRONG.

It's the beginning of a new love in sight.
Could be an ever opening flower.
No explanations, need to work it out.
You know we've got the power.

It's the beginning of a new love inside.
You've got the way to make it all happen.
Set it spinning turning roundabout.
Create a new dimension.
When we are winning we can stop and shout
making love towards perfection.
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"The order of the Universe"
Album : Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe
Artist : Yes


You don't need anybody, don't you give me that surprise
Everything about you inside your eyes
You don't need anybody in your family ties
You crossed over the river

You don't need any money to deserve all your friends
It's just the love you give them
You don't need anybody in this complicated life
You crossed over the river

And you're there on your own and you're lost in your life
And you think there's someone's gonna make you feel so good
You better lose control you better watch your step
For there's something inside you, they call it

Rock gives courage, a way to win the trust
Rock gives lover a way to win or bust

You don't need anybody in this complicated life
You crossed over the river

Rock gives courage, a way to with the trust
Rock gives lovers a way to win or bust

Rock gives sisters a way to speak their mind
Without this gift of rock and roll
We'd all be wasting time

It's So Hard To Grow

They say we've got it made, they say we gotta light
Where is the man with all the great directions

They say we gotta win, they say we gotta learn
But in the end it's just the same damn reason

They say you've gotta run, they say you gotta jump
Don't really need to know which way we're going

They say we gotta push, they say we gotta shout
Is this the way to keep our bonfires burning

Sick feeling, sick reasoning, sick challenge you la la la la
You can't imagine it, how hard it is to grow
You can't imagine it, can you imagine
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OK, OK! I could go on for hours so I'll quit(for now) I just want to leave you all with this one and its as my heart of hearts wrote this one....

"New Language"

Album : The Ladder
Artist : Yes

Anderson/Squire/Howe/White/Sherwood/Khoroshev


I speak from some sort of protection of learning
Even tho' I make it up as I go on
A special trait is that I've tried
To reach all feelings
So I speak a new language of love

Some say that it is written in the circle
Others that it is written in the sun
But I protect myself by seeing this experience
As a metaphor for moving on

Sometimes I check myself
To start to believe in
The horoscopes you read everyday
They're telling me somethings
I really ought to know
But then again I like to
Then again I learn to
Then again I'm running away

Vision is coming so fast I can't stop myself
Vision forgets who is real
On the city streets, people get lost
Just waiting for history
Pushing the real world away

Taking a chance only once in your life
Only weakness can stop you from hearing
New languages
Translate each word
As they bring you creation
Your voice is the perfect key

Is there something that
I'm supposed to see

Is there something that I'm
Supposed to feel
I'm with you
And I can't help but want to know

(Talk to me)
Is there something that I'm supposed to teach
(Speak to me)
Is there something that I'm supposed to find
As I reach to the healing in each spoken word

For some strange reason time just cannot wait a minute
I'm chasing every second before I let go
Yesterday my history
Dreams are still a mystery
This living is a gift I should know

Lay it down and let me live the new language
Let me learn at every twist every turn
Lay it down and let me love the further future
Let me know I'm running
Let me know I'm learning
Let me know I'm moving on

Vision is racing so fast I can't stop myself
Chasing the reason
For all kinds of wondering
People embracing these feelings of limbo
Just waiting for some kind of truth

Taking a chance as it comes only once
Only strength can do justice
With words of new languages
Translate creation
To bring you salvation
Your voice is the perfect key

(Talk to me)
Is there something that
I'm supposed to see
(Speak to me)
Is there something that I'm
Supposed to feel
I'm with you
And I can't help but want to know


(Talk to me)
Is there something that
I'm supposed to teach
(Speak to me)
Is there something that I'm supposed to find
As I reach to the healing of each spoken word

Taking a chance as it comes only once
Only strength can do justice
With words of new languages
Translate creation
To bring you salvation
Your voice is the perfect key

(Talk to me)
Is there something that
I'm supposed to see
(Speak to me)
Is it something that I'm
Supposed to feel
I'm with you
And I can't help but want to know


(Talk to me)
Is there something that
I'm supposed to teach
(Speak to me)
Is there something that I'm supposed to find
As I reach to the healing of each spoken word
Is it something that I'm supposed to find
As I reach to the healing of each spoken word
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PSALM 139

For the director of music. Of David. A psalm.
1 O LORD, you have searched me
and you know me.

2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.

3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.

4 Before a word is on my tongue
you know it completely, O LORD.

5 You hem me in—behind and before;
you have laid your hand upon me.

6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.

7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?

8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, [a] you are there.

9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,

10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.

11 If I say, "Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,"

12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

17 How precious to [b] me are your thoughts, O God!
How vast is the sum of them!

18 Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand.
When I awake,
I am still with you.

19 If only you would slay the wicked, O God!
Away from me, you bloodthirsty men!

20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.

21 Do I not hate those who hate you, O LORD,
and abhor those who rise up against you?

22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.

24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.
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You just cant beat "Classic Rock"!
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Yashua is my Rock!
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Although I do like this little jingle by ABBA

"Waterloo"

My, my, at Waterloo Napoleon did surrender
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - Promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - Couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - Knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - Finally facing my Waterloo

My, my, I tried to hold you back but you were stronger
Oh yeah, and now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight
And how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - Promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - Couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - Knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - Finally facing my Waterloo

So how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose -

Waterloo - Couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - Knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - Finally facing my Waterloo
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My Brother Esau by the Grateful Dead
(picture Jacob singing the song and "the hunter" as being Nimrod)

My brother Esau killed a hunter
Back in 1969
And before the killing was done,
His inheritance was mine.
But his birthright was a wand to wave
Before a weary band.
Esau gave me sleeplessness
And a piece of moral land.
My father favored Esau,
Who was eager to obey
All the bloody wild commandments
The Old Man shot his way.
But all this favor ended
When my brother failed at war.
He staggered home
And found me in the door.

[Chorus:]
Esau skates on mirrors anymore...
He meets his pale reflection at the door.
Yet sometimes at night I dream
He's still that hairy man,
Shadowboxing the Apocalypse
And wandering the land.
Shadowboxing the Apocalypse
And wandering the land.

Esau holds a blessing;
Brother Esau bears a curse.
I would say that the blame is mine
But I suspect it's something worse.
The more my brother looks like me,
The less I understand
The silent war that bloodied both our hands.
Sometimes at night, I think I understand.
It's brother to brother and it's man to man
And it's face to face and it's hand to hand...
We shadowdance the silent war within.
The shadowdance, it never ends...
Never ends, never ends.
Shadowboxing the Apocalypse, yet again...
Yet again.
Shadowboxing the Apocalypse,
And wandering the land.
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nabashalam
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Just yesterday morning they let me know you were gone
Susanne the plans they made put an end to you
I walked out this morning and I wrote down this song
I just can't remember who to send it to

I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again

Won't you look down upon me, Jesus
You've got to help me make a stand
You've just got to see me through another day
My body's aching and my time is at hand
And I won't make it any other way

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again

Been walking my mind to an easy time my back turned towards the sun
Lord knows when the cold wind blows it'll turn your head around
Well, there's hours of time on the telephone line to talk about things to come
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you, baby, one more time again, now

Thought I'd see you one more time again
There's just a few things coming my way this time around, now
Thought I'd see you, thought I'd see you fire and rain, now
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Artist: George Harrison
Album: Living In The Material World
Title: Give Me Love (give Me Peace On Earth)


Give me love
Give me love
Give me peace on earth
Give me light
Give me life
Keep me free from birth
Give me hope
Help me cope, with this heavy load
Trying to, touch and reach you with,
Heart and soul

Om m m m m m m m m m m m m m
M m m my lord . . .

Please take hold of my hand, that
I might understand you

Won't you please
Oh won't you
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plow_deep
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Ring them bells - Bob Dylan
1989 Special Rider Music


Ring them bells, ye heathen
From the city that dreams,
Ring them bells from the sanctuaries
Cross the valleys and streams,
For they're deep and they're wide
And the world's on its side
And time is running backwards
And so is the bride.

Ring them bells St. Peter
Where the four winds blow,
Ring them bells with an iron hand
So the people will know.
Oh it's rush hour now
On the wheel and the plow
And the sun is going down
Upon the sacred cow.

Ring them bells Sweet Martha,
For the poor man's son,
Ring them bells so the world will know
That God is one.
Oh the shepherd is asleep
Where the willows weep
And the mountains are filled
With lost sheep.

Ring them bells for the blind and the deaf,
Ring them bells for all of us who are left,
Ring them bells for the chosen few
Who will judge the many when the game is through.
Ring them bells, for the time that flies,
For the child that cries
When innocence dies.

Ring them bells St. Catherine
From the top of the room,
Ring them from the fortress
For the lilies that bloom.
Oh the lines are long
And the fighting is strong
And they're breaking down the distance
Between right and wrong.
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nabashalam
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Excellent!
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plow_deep
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For those who love music and peace no matter where you happen to live in this world.

An eyes-wide-open prayer for peace,

"Peace" appears on the album "Esther and the Protesters" by New Orleans-based singer-songwriter Esther Sparks. Esthersparks.com. You can contact the artist directly there.

If you are moved by its message, please pass it along.

Excerpt:

"Oh dear Lord,
Please don't just bless
America or us here in the West.

But dear Lord,
Please bless the earth,
and all her people
in life and death and birth."

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/81.html
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nabashalam
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John Mayer- Belief

Is there anyone who ever remembers
Changing their mind from the paint on a sign
Is there anyone who really recalls ever breaking rank at all
For something someone yelled real loud one time

Oh everyone believes
In how they think it oughta be
Oh everyone believes
And they're not going easily


Belief is a beautiful armor but makes for the heaviest sword
Like punching under water, you never can hit who you're trying for
Some need the exhibition and some have to know they tried
It's the chemical weapon for the war that's raging on inside

Oh everyone believes
From emptiness to everything
Oh everyone believes
And no one's going quietly

We're never gonna win the world, we're never gonna stop the war
We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for
We're never gonna win the world, we're never gonna stop the war
We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for


Is there anyone who you can remember, whoever surrendered
with their life on the line


We're never gonna win the world, we're never gonna stop the war
We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for
We're never gonna win the world, we're never gonna stop the war
We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for


What puts a hundred thousand children in the sand
Belief can, belief can
What puts the folded flag inside his mother's hand
Belief can, belief can

(Message edited by nabashalam on April 07, 2007)
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fatherofaking
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The Moody Blues

"Question"


Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door?
With a thousand million questions
About hate and death and war.

It's where we stop and look around us
There is nothing that we need.
In a world of persecution
That is burning in it's greed.

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door?
Because the truth is hard to swallow
That's what the wall of love is for.

It's not the way that you say it
When you do those things to me.
It's more the way that you mean it
When you tell me what will be.

And when you stop and think about it
You won't believe it's true.
That all the love you've been giving
Has all been meant for you.

I'm looking for someone to change my life.
I'm looking for a miracle in my life.
And if you could see what it's done to me
To lose the the love I knew
Could safely lead me through.

Between the silence of the mountains
And the crashing of the sea
There lies a land I once lived in
And she's waiting there for me.

But in the grey of the morning
My mind becomes confused
Between the dead and the sleeping
And the road that I must choose.

I'm looking for someone to change my life.
I'm looking for a miracle in my life.
And if you could see what it's done to me
To lose the the love I knew
Could safely lead me to
The land that I once knew.
To learn as we grow old
The secrets of our souls.

It's not the way that you say it
When you do those things to me.
It's more the way you really mean it
When you tell me what will be.

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door?
With a thousand million questions
About hate and death and war.

It's where we stop and look around us
There is nothing that we need.
In a world of persecution
That is burning in it's greed.

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door?
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GOLLY FOAK: I never new you could sing. Your vast knowledge has no end. I am in utter AUGH!! Sing me another won't you please.
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FOAK: sing me one in arabic, that would really be a treat!!!!
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fatherofaking
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glad you are here dobman.
stick around.
you will get eaten alive here.

since i have abandoned those god forsaken SC threads i told watchman to give you a little message.
since you are following me around i can tell you directly.

i am considering sending your posts about mohamed being a spawn of satan to the muslim brotherhood website.
how do you feel about that dobman.
you know how these people tend to overreact to things like this.

yes this is a threat dobman.
so don't bother to ask.
we are in a war.
threats are allowed.
who knows if i will carry it out.
i just want to see you squirm a bit for all of the unsubstantiated allegations you have made against me.
then maybe i will send them anyway.

have a nice day dobman.
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nabashalam
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Foak, I used to listen to that album over and over in the early 70s!

A "Question of Balance"!

Need I say more?

BTW I was caught up in Arnold Murrays teachings in the early 90s. I even bought a "Companion Bible" and consumed the appendixes by Bullinger!
Bull is right! It's full of it!!!


http://www.levendwater.org/companion/index_companion.html
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fatherofaking
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yes naba i have enjoyed the album myself for many years.

i just listened to the song i posted the other day.
i have the album.

it is nice not to have be held down by someone else's rules and regulations.
we are free to do as we see fit for our own lives.

i apologize for the disruption over here by the SC folks.
they started a war with me and since i took their challenge they are not very happy with me.
they are now stalking me here.
i guess it gives them a reason to exist.
they fancy themselves to be warriors for god.
they use this as license to say and do whatever they please.
it is quite sad that they have been so thoroughly deceived.
it is hard to get out when you are in so deep.
we have both been there.
remember?
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trainedobserver
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Speaking of catchy tunes, who can forget, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"

Those were the days. And of course someone would alway shout from the back of the room, "Yeah, and don't wake the old SOB up!" All those tentacles waving lighters in the air begging for an encore ... you just don't see that anymore. (sniffle)
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jodymcgrody
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 6:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...What?
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jodymcgrody
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Maybe too many 'shrooms and too much Lovecraft?
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nabashalam
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu
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trainedobserver
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Can you get too much Lovecraft? I think not. The bizarre Cthulhu mythology makes as much sense and is as entertaining as any other mythology out there wouldn't you agree? It has the refreshing aspect of only trying to pass as a fictional story as opposed to similar tales about ancient invisible non-human cosmic forces that do not.

Also, I've never eaten a 'schroom' although I read some about it and wouldn't be opposed to doing so under certain conditions. There is some speculation that O.T. mana may have been mushrooms. Heard that one?

At any rate, I was just trying to be funny by invoking visions of dark alien gods plotting mankind's ultimate demise. Tee-hee.
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nabashalam
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I will have my first "fruiting" in a month!
Look that up in your mycological dictionary!


http://www.shroomwizard.com/chapters.html


http://digg.com/celebrity/Did_Jesus_Eat_Magic_Mushrooms_At_Last_Supper
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Actually the description of Cthulhu on Wikipedia made me think of "The Sirius Mystery" by Robert Temple. The similarities are pretty obvious except for the physical description of the creature, which actually fits more with the "Davy Jones" character on the last two "Pirates of the Caribbean" movies.
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It would be nice if dark alien gods were plotting our demise instead of the truth of the matter. Anything to take away responsibility for our own actions. Unfortunately, I'm pretty confident that dark alien gods would only be watching this mess from a distance like a good pay-per-view show.
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if you all don't mind i think i will take advantage of the current shift in topic to post some new material i have been researching.


The most merciful thing in the world ... is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality... That we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
H. P. Lovecraft
http://www.holoscience.com/synopsis.php?page=1

this video is an hr long but well worth the time.
Thunderbolts of the Gods
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how much do we really know?
not much it seems.


"The consequences and possibilities in an Electric Universe are far-reaching. First we must acknowledge our profound ignorance! We know nothing of the origin of the universe. There was no Big Bang. The visible universe is static and much smaller than we thought. We have no idea of the age or extent of the universe. We don't know the ultimate source of the electrical energy or matter that forms the universe. Galaxies are shaped by electrical forces and form plasma focuses at their centers, which periodically eject quasars and jets of electrons. Quasars evolve into companion galaxies. Galaxies form families with identifiable "parents" and "children". Stars are electrical �transformers� not thermonuclear devices. There are no neutron stars or Black Holes. We don't know the age of stars because the thermonuclear evolution theory does not apply to them. Supernovae are totally inadequate as a source of heavy elements. We do not know the age of the Earth because radioactive clocks can be upset by powerful electric discharges."
http://www.holoscience.com/synopsis.php?page=12
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Everything is Electromagnetic interaction. The actual space that a particle of 'matter' occupies as oppossed to its electromagnetic field is something akin to a fly in a football stadium where the stadium represents the electromagnetic field. When your fingers depress the keys on your keyboard it is the interaction of many electromagnetic fields and not bits of matter that occurs.
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what i want to know is why i have to bend over to pick something up off the floor?
it seems to me that the implications of this is that we can attract and repel whatever we choose.

maybe i am misunderstanding something?
it seems we can do it on a spiritual level why not physically.

anyone for a song?
this is one of the myriad of descriptions of factnet.

"Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been,
Lives in a dream.
Waits at the window, wearing a face she keeps in a jar by the door,
Who is it for?
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
Father McKenzie, writing the words of a sermon that no-one will hear,
No-one comes near
Look at him working, darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there,
What does he care?
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name.
Nobody came.
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave.
No-one was saved.
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?"
Eleanor Rigby
The Beatles
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Dawkins explains the situation we find ourselves in the universe and what that means to our ability to comprehend it.

Our boundaries of Frequency and Scale dictate and confine our perception of reality to a very thin 'band' of what is really going on around us.

That indisputable fact, that we are stranded on a small island of perception and comprehension, is why grand cosmologies and theologies invalidate one another as knowledge, perception, and comprehension scale up over time.

That is the essence of the universe we find ourselves in and therefore not something to become too distressed about when it demonstrates that all human concepts and imaginings are by definition illusions or delusions. We can see that as a subset of the whole we cannot logically comprehend the whole but rather are forced to construct a "model" of what we think the "whole" might be based on our exposure to only a very small "part" of that whole.

The impossibility of actually constructing an accurate model this way should be obvious to everyone. It would be like trying to construct an accurate model of the Titanic when all you have ever seen of it is the inside of a closet in the laundry. See what I'm getting at? See where this logically and inevitability leads us?

(sound of crickets, a lone dog barks in the night)
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Whoops, forgot to include the URL"
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6308228560462155344
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i get it.
but it still doesn't explain why i can't grab the phone on the other side of the room while i am sitting at my desk.
lol
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The Tribes made a freepaper called "Eleanor Rigby"! Yikes!

"First we must acknowledge our profound ignorance!"

So how many times have I said "The first step to wisdom is not the fear of God but the fact of realizing you dont know squat!"?

and about gravity...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_attraction

http://www.som.org/2laws/universallaws/attraction.htm

By the simple act of thinking, vortexes are created, invisible energies are applied, and circumstances begin creeping to make real what was previously just imagined. This supernatural pull of your thoughts continues long after you think them, whenever there follows intent, expectation and action; moving mountains, parting rivers, and doing the "impossible" until there is the inevitable manifestation.

This is how your "thoughts becoming things." How they physically become things in a dimension that already exists, with billions of players and massive momentum. Not by appearing out of thin air, but through a manipulation of such forces in the unseen that literally begin shifting, morphing, and arranging all of the elements in your life so as to deliver to you the nearest equivalent of what you've been thinking. In other words, the "law of attraction."

"Thoughts becoming things" explains the law of attraction. It's why there is a law of attraction. And unlike any other 3 words in all the vocabularies of all the languages in the world, "thoughts become things" tells you exactly where you fit into the picture, as the thinker, the decision maker over what you will think about, revealing your power as a supernatural, all powerful, unlimited, CREATOR.

But, of course, many prefer not to think of themselves as so phenomenally powerful.
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nab,

I don't really buy into the whole The Secret/What the Bleep do we know? "We create reality." business. If it were true then it would have to be universally true and doesn't explain why someone would create realities for themselves where they starve, are tortured, or are poor does it?

I would agree that there appears to be something 'like that' going on sometimes but I believe that is more reasonably explained by taking into account our focus of attention and intent in bringing things about and recognition of expected patterns.

However, I have come to believe that if one comes to accept the universe as it presents itself rather than demanding that things not be "as they are" but some other way, that the universe works better for the person. Which if you come to think of it is almost the opposite of the popular "law of attraction" made famous by "The Secret" and "What the Bleep" isn't it?

Our appreciation for and harmonious coexistence with the universe, life, and everything (a.k.a 42) seems to have something to do with how things go ... or so it would seem sometimes.

The philosophical metal to accept tragedy and victory with the same enthusiasm seems to be a key component to getting along with the universe. Would you not agree?

Sotto voice: "Somebody bang a gong for Pete's sake."
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i posted a video above called the thunderbolts of the gods.
i think you would really like it.
check it out.

the link is in one of my posts above but i will post it here for convenience sake.

Thunderbolts of the Gods
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Thunderbolts of the Gods was fantastic! I had read about this theory years ago concerning comets. This presentation is certainly more compelling. It explains a lot and doesn't break anything that I can think of off hand. Excellent find dude!

Now for some lyrics,

"Speed of Lightening!
Roar of Thunder!
Underdog! UnderDOG! UNDERDOG!"
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Here is a good video on the whole pharmacological aspect of the mystery religions.

http://www.gnosticmedia.com

Another bit to through in the brew as it were.
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i am a member of an Arthur Young yahoo group.
most of the stuff they post is beyond me but i do come up with some good stuff that i can wrap my brain around from time to time.

http://www.holoscience.com/index.php

"“From the smallest particle to the largest galactic formation, a web of electrical circuitry connects and unifies all of nature, organizing galaxies, energizing stars, giving birth to planets and, on our own world, controlling weather and animating biological organisms. There are no isolated islands in an electric universe".
David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill
Thunderbolts of the Gods
http://www.thunderbolts.info/
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T.O.!!!! Thanks for the link! I just watched the whole 2 hours of it! Fascinating!!!

Now Im researching http://www.johnallegro.org/main/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marco_Allegro

This stuff has really got me going...on a trip!

See ya when I get back!

Nothing like a little Shamanism 101
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Is there no end to what ones minds can conceive. Are some to be doomed forever to feel in touch, with what some one else might feel with delight and glee. Some are sure touch, and sight hold no boundries, and in this do we all agree? If should one touch a lit candle are we to suppose a feeling of delights with a new found zeal. Is forever in the boudaries when one speaks of galictic wonders, could thoughs thoughts of a universes ever hold a candle to what one could precieve. When one sings of new found old rock songs, are they only a refuge or of a yet new found space to explore. Are conceptions outrages, in and of themselves, held within the bounderies of a closed mind. If so should not one then open this closure to reality. As to only then see what might begin. Is there a continuem in space and time yet before us. Will all mans questions go unanswered through out eternity. These, and many more do have an answer. Though some shall never see. For it's to be had by only those who take a leap accross all concieved thoughts, reach out , and touch the face of God.
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Jn. 12: 23-25

23And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.

24Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

25He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.


Lk. 9:22-24

20He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.

21And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing;

22Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.

23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

24For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
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if a seed is not planted so it can die, can it feed anyone?
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Dear FOAK: John. 12: 23-25 This corn of wheat is actually a single grain of wheat. The old translators on many occasions it seems confused more than they enlightened. Anyways what Jesus was attempting to say was his death was a single event. That being this single corn of wheat falling to the ground in death. Yet through this single event it bringeth forth much fruit. That meaning through Jesus's death all life will one day be made new. If we were to only love this life and not hold Jesus as the key to life we shall loose our life. In Lk.9:20-24 Peter answered corectly in that Jesus was the Christ. Now here we might seem it odd that Jesus then told him at that time not to tell any. If every one concerned were to fully understand who Jesus actually was. There would have been no nailing to the cross. The prophets had proclaimed what must take place, and Jesus new his works here on earth also ment for him to be the perfect sacrafice. So had there been no cross there would be no salvation through Crist name. As for the verses23-24 These are speaking of mans need to drop his thoughts of living for today only, and concider the larger picture in the life yet to come. let us never cast another stone!
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thanks for the interpretation dobman.
you understand of course that i did not post those verses because i did not know what they meant, right?
i do not remember asking for an interpretation any way.
since your interpretation has nothing to do with the context of the discussion one would have to think i had a completely different idea of what those verses meant.

you reap what you sow, as the saying goes.
i hope god knows what he is doing.
i wonder sometimes.



(Message edited by fatherofaking on December 17, 2007)
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Foak, you and your stalker can take this elsewhere!!!
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excuse me naba for treading on your territory.
does someone have a little to much authority all of a sudden?

pardon me if my assumption is wrong.
take your warning elsewhere naba.
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This is for Twelve Tribes folks and this thread WAS for songs then it went way off track. Then your SC stalker comes here and starts banging his doctrinal drum.

Authority? How deluded can you get?
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This is for Twelve Tribes folks and this thread WAS for songs then it went way off track. Then your SC stalker comes here and starts banging his doctrinal drum.

yes naba i am well aware of exactly what has happened and what is currently happening on this thread.

maybe you should take a trip down memory lane and read how things got off track.
then if you still have a problem; you could articulate it in a way that is more accurate and less threatening.

Authority? How deluded can you get?

i already asked you to pardon me if my statement was deluded.
you do remember the threatening manner in which you originally approached this problem don't you?

it was hard not to think you were trying
to exercise some kind authority.
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FOAK, sorry... I lost my composure...

"Forgive Me"
-50 Cent


Barely raised by my dysfunctional fam
Here I stand as a dysfunctional man
Quick-tempered, short-fused, and p-ssed at God
Demons pullin at my soul 'til it's ripped apart
Secret's out momma that fire I started it
F-ck the fireman logic of the closet by the wire sh-t
What's positive about a father that bust nuts then wussed up
And a momma that don't show her son enough love
Sh-t, that's why I run from my first son
And force these chickenhead b-tches to get abortions
I'm married to game, my mistress is fame
My girl Paq the closest, she know I ain't gon' change
Go insane in a world evil as ours
I done shot at houses, people and cars
The deeper the scars, the worst is the history
God you ain't gotta forgive me, just don't forget me, you hear me?

Lord forgive me, for I've sinned
Over and over again just to stay, on top
I recall memories, filled, with sin
Over and over again.. and again

And most importantly I'm tryin to support my seeds
Can't seem to get away from them courtin fees
Embroidery, on my hood across my heart disorderly
Breakin in houses of people who ain't got more than me
Accordingly, I move in error
Gotta face the fact though I can't fool this mirror
Neglected my daughter and tryin to blame on how I was brought up
like I'm a product of this environment, why ain't I shot up?
Got up today like "Why you let me breathe again?"
And with each breath I feel death is creepin in
Thinkin sinners are winners and I'ma finish last
My pen and pad record my life as each minute pass
Passin minutes, I shook sin and shook drugs
I did right by you but still you took Bugz
Then caught me in adultery, fought me
for not knowin through the dark streets you walked me, talked to me

It's the bliss that's a rush so rush my wrists in the cuffs
It's like a fight for yo' attention and love
Speakin of Bugz, give me a hint from above
If he not you know I wanna be sent when I'm done
Kid outta wedlock so my lady's frontin
I love Em, cause he gave me somethin
A positive anything is better than a negative nothin
I was on the edge of death ready to jump in
It's hard when you can't find love anywhere
And just because the reverend listen, don't mean he care
Pops on crack with a sufferin past
I dream in black and white, the world color me bad
Other than sad, painful and stress
Life is good with the webs that, tangle with death
Control the border, control the school
I have sinned amongst men and my soul is yours, yours
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nab,

Graham Hancock talks about plants and DMT in this radio interview. I can't say I agree with all of his conclusions but it is interesting nonetheless and in the same vein as the pharmacological stuff you watched/listened to earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7nJIqz2D_Y

I think it breaks down to this. The play in our heads (manufactured by the brain using data from our senses) is subject to the whims of our biochemistry. When that chemistry is changed we can have 'spiritual' experiences, 'alien abduction' experiences, and numerous other experiences all dependent on the particular chemical and our brains reaction to it. Imbalances or changes can also occur in our brains naturally through disease or aging effecting our cognitive functions which give us visions, hallucinations, and so forth. Many religious visions and so on are clearly 'hallucinations' of this type.

1. Supernaturalism is largely based on an incorrect interpretation of abnormal perceptions that have a natural biological causes.
2. Common sense and Occam's Razor point toward this natural (inside the brain) explanation for supernatural experience as oppossed to the (outside of the brain) 'other dimensional' explanation.
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hey TO,
naba expressed a concern last night that this thread was being used for something other than what it was intended for.

i was thinking maybe we could start a new thread somewhere else to discuss these things?

perhaps we could wait for a response from naba so that he would be aware of the change and be able to follow the discussion.

i understand his concern.
it may cause those that want to discuss the TT to think that the original focus has changed.
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OK, I'm starting a new thread...
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nabashalam...

can i contact you?

is there any way to private message on this board?

ObSong:

This is my theme song. Probably soon to change.

Althea by Garcia/Hunter (Althea is "truth" in greek)

I told Althea I was feeling lost, lacking in some direction.
Althea told me upon scrutiny that my back might need protection.
I told althea that treachery was tearing me limb from limb.
Althea told me better cool down boy, settle back, easy Jim.

You may be saturdays child, all alone, moving with a pinch of grace.
You may be a clown in the burial ground, or just another pretty face.
You may meet the fate of Ophelia, sleeping and perchance to dream.
Honest to the point of recklessness, self-centered in the extreme.

Ain't nobody messing with you, but you. Your friends are getting most concerned.
Loose with the truth, baby, its your fire, but baby don't get burned.
When the smoke has cleared, she said, this what she said to me:
Gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy (wink).

There are things you can replace, and others you cannot.
The time has come to weigh those things.
This space is getting hot, you know this space is getting hot.

I told Althea Im a roving sign, and I was born to be a bachelor.
Althea told me, okay, thats fine, so now Im trying to catch her.
Cant talk to you without talking to me, were guilty of the same old thing.
Thinking a lot about less and less and forgetting the love we bring.

It's interesting how different people resonate with different artists. I for one can't seem to sync with Yes or Rush, but the Dead and Led Zeppelin, sure! I guess I am more for the intuitive, nonritualistic, entheogen-soaked Bacchus-worship, rather than the ritualised, form-honoring witchcraft... ;D
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nabashalam
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Cool! A fellow psychonaut!

OMG Seamus! That song was written for me!!!!

You cant do a private message here but you can email me privately at nabashalam@yahoo.com

Yup! You heard of bacon and eggs?

I say wine and shrooms!!

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