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Anna Cleves
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 8:46 am: | 
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But this does not lessen the Abhorrent nature of Scientology Managment.
Helping people to read is a great thing.
There are elements of LRH tech that can
be useful in this area.
But what of it?
Most of these "kids" they are educating will
later be treated like cattle or Illegal PC's
by the church.
Not until the church wakes up to the real needs of the public will it be accepted in our society. |
Sylvie
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:22 am: |
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Thanks Anna,
I've just done a Google and come up with the following - by the way, where did you get that news? Just curious. I got it off ars (alt.religion.scientology): but I didn't see anything that connected Tom Cruise to it. Do tell, do you have a link?
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New headquarters for L. Ron Hubbard educational methods opens in St. Louis
Associated Press
Sunday, July 27, 2003
http://www.newstribune.com/stories/072703/sta_0727030032.asp
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Located on a hilltop campus overlooking the Mississippi River, a new educational center opening Saturday in north St. Louis County will teach methods developed by Church of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.
But executives with Applied Scholastics International say the center is completely secular, licensing educators and schools in the learning methods Hubbard developed, known as study technology.
Hubbard, who died in 1986, is best known for establishing Scientology, defined by the church as the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, universes and other life.
"We have no religious materials. They are separate organizations," chief executive officer Bennetta Slaughter said.
Use of Applied Scholastics materials raised questions in Los Angeles in 1997 and in Boston in 2001, when some educators expressed concern that the program could have links to Scientology.
J. Gordon Melton, director of the Institute for the Study of American Religion in Santa Barbara, Calif., has written about Scientology and visited Applied Scholastics centers. He said Applied Scholastics presents itself as separate from Scientology, and from everything he's seen, that's the case. [Note: Gordon Melton is a cult apologist, do a GOOGLE on him - S.]
Applied Scholastics isn't licensed to use any Scientology materials.
"It has to be separate, or it would just be too controversial," Melton said.
[It is in no way separate. That is a boldfaced lie. S.]
Slaughter said Hubbard developed his study technology methods after he started teaching principles from his "Dianetics" book and found individuals could not comprehend and use what he was teaching.
[Benetta Slaughter (what an appropriate name) was one of those scientologists, one of Lisa McPherson's reputed "friends," who were responsible for taking Lisa McPherson, who was not in a fit state to make her own decision, when she was apparently trying to leave the cult, out of the hands of a reputable Clearwater hospital which would have helped her when she had her psychotic break - if that's what it was - and insisted she be taken to Scientology's Fort Harrison Hotel, and put on Hubbard's Introspection Rundown (or whatever they're calling it these days) which is what kept Lisa from getting proper medical care, and what, ultimately killed her.]
"That same gap is exactly what teachers and students struggle with today," she said.
Hubbard found three barriers to learning: a lack of mass, where there is no physical representation of what is being studied; a skipped gradient, or moving onto the next step of learning without fully understanding the previous step; and the misunderstood word, a word that is not understood or wrongly understood.
Applied Scholastics aims to help students learn how to learn by figuring out which barriers they face and offering ways to help.
The Rev. Alfreddie Johnson Jr., a Baptist pastor in Compton, Calif., founded a literacy program that uses Hubbard's methods.
He compared the current state of education to a house on fire -- he doesn't care about the religion of the firefighters.
"You want trained individuals who will pull your kids out of the burning house safely," he said.
The new Applied Scholastics facility is a 125,000-square-foot complex, located on about 100 acres in the Spanish Lake area. It will serve as headquarters for Applied Scholastics.
The School Sisters of Notre Dame owned the facility, then known as Villa Gesu, from 1931 to 1999. They relocated the remains of 753 sisters to a new cemetery in south St. Louis County, closer to their mother house where the nuns could ensure perpetual care, said provincial counselor Sister Carol Reeb.
Applied Scholastics provided about $1 million to the sisters to help pay for moving the remains, Slaughter said.
The new campus can train about 700 educators at a time and has rooms to house about 180. Prices range from $125 for a weekend workshop to roughly $13,000 for a semester of study and accommodations in a suite.
Slaughter said the program has trained more than 60,000 educators since 1972.
Applied Scholastics said the decision to move its base from California to the St. Louis area was based on growing demand and the desire for a central location.
A county economic official said it's always good to see a new development come into the area.
"We're not endorsing any particular teaching or belief system. That's not our business. We also don't want to be disrespectful of any beliefs," said Steve Anderson with the St. Louis County Economic Council. "It appears it will be good for the neighborhood."
[Wait until the neighborhood realizes what happened to Clearwater residents could and will happen to them.]
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As a poster on another forum pointed out, what on earth is the $13,000 dollar semester fee for if there are only three things to learn about this study "technology." (Per Hubbard - see article).
Really interesting: $13,000 per semester. What is that times 4, well it's $52,000 per year.
What they are NOT telling people is they will up the ante selling Scientology/Hubbard's space opera on a gradient, all the way up to getting these people on Hubbard's "bridge to total freedom" where they'll realize they have 1000s of "BTs" (body thetans - dead space aliens) attached to their bodies which they then have to spend 10s of thousands of dollars "auditing out." What lunacy.
The best universities charge what? per semester? Per annum?
Harvard's fee schedule for undergraduate (BA, BSc.) degrees is as follows, but with the NOTE: HARVARD'S FEE SCHEDULE IS FOR A FULL YEAR OF STUDY, NOT JUST ONE SEMESTER, as advertized by these Scientology Scammers).
HARVARD GAZETTE ARCHIVES
Harvard sets 2003-2004 undergraduate tuition and fees:
For the 2003-2004 academic year, Harvard's package of undergraduate tuition, room, board, and student fees will increase by 5.5 percent, to $37,928. Costs include: tuition, $26,066; room rate, $4,706; board, $4,162; health services fee, $1,142; and student services fee, $1,852.
The total cost to students will, as ever, be reduced by Harvard's ongoing commitment to financial aid. Two-thirds of Harvard's undergraduates receive some form of financial aid, including scholarships, loans, and jobs. For 2003-2004, the average total aid package will be close to $27,050, or roughly 70 percent of a student's total costs, including an allowance toward personal expenses. Over the past five years, Harvard College has expanded its undergraduate scholarship program by more than $19.5 million, representing a 37 percent increase in need-based assistance. During this time, the average debt of graduating students has declined by over $4,000, to just $10,450 per student for the Class of 2002. The total aid provided to undergraduates for 2003-2004 will likely top $105 million.
"Harvard College is built upon the twin principles of need-blind admissions and need-based financial aid," said William C. Kirby, dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences (FAS). "At a time when universities around the country, and families everywhere, can feel the effects of a weaker national economy, we are determined to protect every student's ability to come to Harvard, regardless of his or her financial background."
Tuition revenue at FAS supports operating expenses, which include providing a residential environment, health care, security, libraries and athletic facilities, and salaries for faculty and staff. Tuition also funds ongoing FAS projects and priorities. Kirby has drawn special attention this year to a major review of undergraduate education, continuing development of science initiatives, renovation and construction of FAS spaces essential to teaching and learning, recruiting vibrant faculty, and internationalizing a Harvard education.
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So what the cult of Scientology is charging for its "educational materials", per annum, is (including a nice "suite" but nothing about medical or other expenses equalling what Harvard, an elite university, has to offer) roughly 1/3 more than Harvard University charges. It's much cheaper to go to Harvard than it is to do this new Scientology's "Educational Facility's" package.
I see: L. Ron Hubbard, who flunked out of his own college, has written works that make the cult management confident they can sell his second-hand ideas and theories for well above what a university like Harvard charges. Hmmm. Interesting. |
Anna Cleves
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:31 am: |
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Hi Sylvie:
I saw it in a newspaper this morning.
Complete with a grinning picture of tom.
Sorry I can't say which paper, since it
would give the wherabouts away.
The idea that they are "seperate" is
totally perposterous to anyone who knows
anything about scientology.
It is invariably managed by sea-org members
from above. Nothing secular at all about sea-org.
How do you think they would react if a "squirrel'
dropped by to apply for a job?
Secular my ass. This will be exposed fully.
Now if they truly operate independently, then
I would applaud and accept it. |
Sylvie
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 3:44 pm: |
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Yep, Anna, "Secular my ass." I concur with what you've said up until the last two lines. I'm not sure what you mean by that. I would applaud that separatness, too, but not if it eventually led a person into the clutches of CoS.
I'm interested in what you meant by those last two lines above...?
Yet another "grinning picture" of Tom says to me the cult is getting really desperate and using all it's PR tactics (which Tom is good at) it can muster just now.
If a "squirrel" stopped by in any capacity, CoS's staff and/or Sea Org, would nix it.
And there is nothing secular about it. (Not that there is anything vaguely religious about it, either.)
Any organization, religious or secular, which has what Scientology calls its "War Chest," i.e., money set aside to fight legal battles (and they have an inordinate amount of them) - the "War Chest" being their non-stop gallery of perceived enemies - is completely suspect and paranoid in the extreme.
But 'nuff said.  |
Anna Cleves
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 7:20 pm: |
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Yes, the organization is offensive, immoral,
illegal (that's why they need so many lawyers to
defend their actions) and disturbing.
But I must admit, there are some interesting things about the subject matter.
If there wasn't there would not be such an attraction. Even though they are completely
manipulative and fully take advantage of their members, some of the basic principles are compelling.
It's just that people should be able to participate at whatever level they feel comfortable and this is not the case in scientology. No matter what they say about tolerance, they DEMAND strict obedience as
a pre-requisite to participation.
Sure, if you are a rich celebrity you have
more wiggle room, but the average person
is given countless ultimatums as a requirment for participation.
Fortuntately, so many people have left the church over the years that anyone truly interested in pursuing the subject does not have to have anything to do with the nazis running the church. |
Sylvie
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 9:40 pm: |
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Fortunately, anything that a person find's compelling and attractive in the CoS, they can find outside it, and for a lot less money, or for free. There are the freezoners for those who must have scientology, there are lots of other useful therapies, and religions if one is so inclined, and then, my favorite, just plain old LIFE itself.
"Wiggle room" - great stuff! |
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