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heynow
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Post Number: 432
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.202.39
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It seems there has been much discussion regarding "Bad" pastors and "Bad" preachers. Abusers and users. In the movie "Join Us" (about a cult) one of the women asked the wellspring counsuler, "Is there any church that is NOT a cult?"
So, I started thinking there must be some honest pastors out there that really are concerned about people as well as their souls.
Now, J. Vernon McGee comes to mind. I am not sure if you have heard him preach but, he taught on a program called, "Through the Bible." He started it 1967 and it is still going on. Even though he has a doctorate, he seems somewhat down to earth. The way he talks is "folksy."
He went through all 66 books of the Bible on the radio. The message seems timeless and some people are surprised Dr. McGee is no longer on this earth. Anyway I don't think he was involved in any scandal or accused of anything ungodly. He was pastor of a very large church downtown Los Angeles called "The Church of The Open Door." Very big at the time but, you know what? The people at the congregation lived in their own homes. I just thought I would mention that. Usually during Dr. McGee's message he would ask, "May I say this?" before he started explaining the scriptures. Here is some Dr. McGee on Romans 5:1....

"The Bible mentions several kinds of peace. First, there's world peace. Well, my friend, as long as there is sin in the hearts of men, there never will be peace in the world - not until the Prince of Peace comes. Christ will bring peace on this earth. But world peace is not the kind of peace that Paul is talking about here.

Then there is that peace which is known as tranquility of soul. That is the peace to which the Lord Jesus referred when He said to His disciples, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you …" (John 14:27). This is a peace that comes to certain believers who have trusted Christ and who are resting in Him and who are doing His will. I wish I could say that I experience this peace all the time. I do not. I suppose I am like most believers in that I have up and down experiences. However, Paul is not referring to the peace of personal tranquility.

Then there is a third kind of peace which Paul mentions to the Philippian believers – "the peace that passeth all understanding" (see Philippians 4:7). Well, since it passes all understanding, I certainly don't know what it is, and I have a notion that you don't know either. The peace Paul is talking about, which he lists as the first benefit of salvation, is "peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." This is the peace that comes to the soul of one who has trusted Christ as Savior and knows that God no longer has any charge against him, that he is no longer guilty. He knows that God, who had to be against him in the past, is now for him. He knows that he has a salvation that is permanent and eternal. This is the peace that comes because of sins forgiven and because everything is right between you and God. You will notice that Paul mentions again and again that we have peace through the blood of Jesus Christ, which means that everything is all right between our soul and God. That is wonderful peace!"

Dr. McGee always struck as an honest person.

Anyway, I thought it would be nice to mention a good pastor and not only the bad. I am sure that is alright.
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phahrrrt_detector
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 85.234.144.215
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bay-gin yo pah-din
Brudrr Heynow
b-yen re-spekt-ful & ahl
2 yer thred

centz we b
ohn uh tan-jihnt
(u noze
taw-kin bowt stuff
udder den toadie)
ah fig-gurrd ahd skweez dis n 2
ifn u dont myn
knott cuz ah haff 2
jez cuz ah wunst 2 !!

lahk dey dun
ee-rown-ee-uzlee
gihvn Robin Wee-yumz
creh-dit 4 sayin
(may-b cuz he
dun war dat t-shert

Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says \\'I love New York\\' in Arabic
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1585/att000011hr3.jpg
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heynow
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Username: heynow

Post Number: 435
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.202.39
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fart, Your post is very difficult to read due to the misspellings and such. I realize you also post as pharasees (I think it is spelled something like that) with good grammer and spelling. I guess that foundation schooling was good for something after all. I thought it would be nice to post about some good people. I see you are in 100% agreement with me on this since you posted a Robin Williams quote.
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phahrrrt_detector
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Username: phahrrrt_detector

Post Number: 90
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 85.234.144.215
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

& ah kwoatz iht
ahl-mos vur-bay-tuhm
** sep-tin 4 uh lil uh-dihn-dum
2 #10:

A MUST READ...PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR....READ THIS!


The Plan!

You gotta love Robin Williams ...Even if he\\'s nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

Robin Williams\\' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!)

\\'I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here\\'s one plan.\\'

1) \\'The US will apologize to the world for our \\'interference\\' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those \\'good \\'ole\\' boys\\', we will never \\'interfere\\' again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don\\'t want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave We\\'ll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They\\'re illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don\\'t like it there, change it yourself and don\\'t hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don\\'t need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign \\'students\\' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don\\'t attend classes, they get a \\'D\\' and it\\'s back home baby.

6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don\\'t like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not \\'interfere.\\' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don\\'t need the spies and fair weather friends here Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us \\'Ugly Americans\\' any longer. ** The Language we speak is ENGLISH..learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn\\'t that a winner of a plan?

* \\'The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying \\'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.\\' She\\'s got a baseball bat and she\\'s yelling, \\'you want a piece of me?\\'

*(dat wuz Robinz reel kwoat)

2 b con-tin-yood
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phahrrrt_detector
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 6-2006
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Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cuz 4 me
dat lil speech
no maht-tur hoo-evr(?)
dun sed iht
DUN SED IHT AHL !!!

brot 2 u by
Smahrrrt detecter

aka Phahrrrt detecter ^~^
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heynow
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Post Number: 436
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.202.39
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 6:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Fart.
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brother_d
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Post Number: 450
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 72.152.80.43
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I love Robin Williams. The man's a genius.

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