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     heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 289 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.140.64.102 |
Just some thoughts and questions. I remember about a year ago watching a program about Pete Best. It was interwoven with a long interview with Pete. I was waiting for him to mention something about tony or the master tapes tony talked about. I didn't hear Pete say anything about that. I turned on the tv and missed the first few minutes so, either I missed it, Pete decided not to talk about it, or there is a chance it never happened. However, many years ago I had the opportunity to listen to the "Beatles Masters" tony would talk about. It did sound like the Beatles but, I don't remember hearing those songs before. Also, he showed us (the group of brothers and sister there at the time) his "scrapbook." I know back in the early days of the foundation tony would say he was offered a million dollars for the "masters". That was quite a sum back in those days. Okay now. I ran across this recently: When the surviving Beatles released their Anthology in 1995, which featured a number of tracks with Best as drummer, Best received a substantial windfall — apparently between £1 million and £4 million — from the sales. He was not interviewed for the book or the television documentaries, and later disputed Harrison's statement that he remembered Best missing several live gigs, with his future replacement, Starr, sitting in for the night (this is documented to have occurred on at least one occasion). His image on an early group photo used on the cover was prominently and purposefully obscured by a cut-out of Starr, contrasting with the cover collage's inclusion of fellow former early Beatle Stuart Sutcliffe's portrait. (However, Best is visible in another, less prominent, photo also appearing on the cover.) Additionally, "Ain't She Sweet," one of the early tracks included on the compilation album to feature Best on drums, was presented in its 1964 U.S. mono single mix, which had been remixed (by Atlantic Records for release on its Atco label) with another studio drummer playing over Best's original drumming. Best recently appeared in a television special built around him titled Best of The Beatles, telling his life story. I am not sure if this is accurate but, I hope it is. From what they are saying Pete pocketed the equivalent of 2-8 million U.S. dollar, just by being heard on the songs he played drums with the early Beatles. If this is true, I would say it is justice. I believe Pete did tour with his own band in 80's. Back to those "Masters". Does this mean there where at least two sets of unreleased masters? One set tony owns (or claims to own) and another set released during the 1995 Beatles Anthology. Let's say tony acually does have posession of unreleased Beatle songs with Best as the drummer. Can you imagine how much that would be worth? Especially if Pete received 2-8 million dollar just for being heard. Here is the link if you want to read the entire Pete Best story:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Best Well, anybody have some thoughts or info on the subject? | ||
| alanb Intermediate Member Username: alanb Post Number: 171 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.43.101.22 |
Tony is full of SH*T | ||
| smitty Advanced Member Username: smitty Post Number: 580 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 71.102.155.42 |
I heard the "Beatles" master too, I'm no audiophile, but the quality didn't sound like Master material to me. There is another mystery involving a LOT of money tho'. Don Wiley once had an original Rembrant that Tony was trying to get him to sell.I remember seeing photos of it(It was in safe storage somewhere)along with letters from the Louvre authenticating it. The title was, I belive, "Decent from the cross" with the body of Jesus being removed off it. The painting was an "Esquisse" (Oils painted over a wood base). Don'tknow if it was ever sold, but today at Christy's or Sotheby's it would be around $30m | ||
| jackrussell Intermediate Member Username: jackrussell Post Number: 278 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 70.126.187.235 |
"that Tony was trying to get him to sell." Does that not really explain things! If there was any validity to great value of what Tony was in possession of, he would have cashed in a long time ago. It was just bull Tony saying he would not sell for even untold millions because the recordings were worldly. Tony is below worldly and would cash in his own mother if he could, imo. But if this site is in earnest to ferret out assets in the Alamo name for a future class action suit for ex members, am all for it! Start your search engines, and present a case to a willing personal injury civil atty. | ||
| smitty Advanced Member Username: smitty Post Number: 581 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.135 |
I think he therw away most of the assets when he allowed the Feds to sieze all of the property in Saugus, Ga. Ridge, Dyer, Alma, Ft. Smith, Nashville ect. ect. Anything else of value now is probably known only to Tony and maybe one or two lieutenants (say, Tommy S. and Sanford) | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 291 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.140.64.102 |
Does anybody know about Tony throwing away that stuff? Where did he throw it? Jack, That isn't the explanation Tony would give about not selling the Beatles masters. He would say; he did not sell it because he had plenty of assets and wasn't in the Gospel field for the "money". I guess his rationale was if he actually wanted money he could sell the masters. Anyway where are those "masters"? Where is that Rembrandt? Any former members or current members are invited to contribute to this topic. | ||
| smitty Advanced Member Username: smitty Post Number: 582 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.135 |
My last recollection (which is probably fuzzy) is that Don W. kept it. Hope he did. | ||
| wilma Advanced Member Username: wilma Post Number: 573 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.186.198.30 |
C'mon, we all know Tony Alamo is a LIAR. Repeat, LIAR. There were never any MASTERS...just a bunch of scratchy reel-to-reel tapes that he would pull out of the back room (tape department where I worked) and occasionally have played for people telling them they were masters. Even when I was under tony's spell I didn't buy that these things were anything special. The music was bad quality and certainly wasn't anything that would sell today. It is more of his DELUSION! Just like his whipped up stories of being the promoter for Sonny & Cher. According to tony, he is responsible for their fame....he made them! If you scan all their books, and books written about them and their early days and rise to fame, you will never see ONE mention of tony alamo. Since Tony has got such great connections let's insist he get a notarized letter from Cher declaring how essential he was in her and Sonny's career...that oughta be easy for such an important man..eh? Same with Pete Best! Otherwise, tony alamo, your testimony is ROT and LIES!!!!! SusieG | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 197 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.249.41.91 |
Right on. I NEVER heard the name Tony Alamo, in all my life, not even the REAL Tony Alamo, who COULD sing !!! LOL those two snakes in the grass STOOGED all of us, into thinking they were all kinds of things-they were NOT !! she was no stand-in for Betty Grable, she was raised in Dyer, Ark. and was a full-fledged HILLBILLY. her school pictures from Dyer showed BAREFOOT STUDENTS !! she wanted to be RICH, so she studied people like Aimee Semple McPherson and Kathryn Kuhlman, to put on a "good religious show" don't believe their "hoodwinking methods" they psyched all of us out with their LIES !! | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 198 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.249.41.91 |
It's just plain ignorant to think that two people, who have been so mean-spirited, used us up for their profit, gave us NOTHING in return (but senseless rebukes, beatings for our children, lousy food from grocery rejects, and abject poverty) were these two prophets, who saw hundreds of flying saucers, had God speak to every part of their body, came off a 40 day fast at Wilson's Restaurant, promoted all the big movie stars, were suddenly looking DOWN at the clouds, had an entourage of 17 people and a baseball-bat brigade, etc. etc. These two had an agenda, they carefully planned how they would get us "in awe" of them, and convince us they were supernatural. They knew all the lingo, got rid of those that questioned their rules and riches, maneuvered all of us, sending us into fields to do slave labor, making us grateful for our weekly $2.00 bill (remember that one ?) we lived in shacks in Bakersfield, over-run by MICE, while they lived in SPLENDOR, with LIMOUSINES, to boot !! this was no haphazard "freak of nature" ! realize that they took you for the biggest ride of your life, and GO ON, but don't think they were telling you the truth, for goodness sake. I heard that fake Beatles album with my own two ears, it was muffled, you couldn't make out the words, it sounded AWFUL !! it was preposterous. I have heard Beatle songs now, for 45 years. just say "enough !!, toe-knee isn't going to hoodwink me any further". | ||
| anchored Intermediate Member Username: anchored Post Number: 474 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 71.205.65.52 |
Agree with Wilma and WCO. Tony was good at promoting alright, HIMSELF. The last time I saw him, just before I left, he was in the process of reinventing himself. All you'd hear about in his "preaching" was I THIS and I THAT - how great things I accomplished, how great I am, was and shall be. We never once heard the name of Jesus. As far as Tony Alamo is concerned the great "I Art" took the place of the THE GREAT I AM in his own eyes and in the eyes of his slaves/worhippers. They deserve each other. Take the advice of WCO who said, "Realize that they took you for the biggest ride of your life, and GO ON, but don't think they were telling you the truth, for goodness sake." Signed: Thankful to be delivered by the Lord, himself and hoodwinked no more. | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 199 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.249.41.91 |
And furthermore, just look at the "tall tales" being told today !! they get TALLER...and TALLER !! "the Lord just spoke to me audibly, he said... you are meant to be one of my wives, and if you don't...just a minute, I'm recieving a message right, straight from the throne of God, RIGHT NOW !! "your whole family will have the ground cleave asunder, the earth will swallow all of you up, and take you to HELL !!!, immediately !! here, put this wedding ring on !!! whew !! do you realize how close you came, to burning in hell ??!!" | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 200 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.249.41.91 |
Tony Alamo, you are undoubtedly the biggest phony shyster, the biggest lusting pedophile, all the while, preaching the gospel(of YOURSELF) !! your lies are getting worse all the time. and to think that you used to preach messages on fornication, of all subjects !! HAH !! you would stand up there, in all your false holiness, saying people who fornicated HATED the soul of the other person, and were causing them to go to hell !! you are SO MESSED UP. judgment is coming, Toe-knee, it's coming soon. you have a thick crust of sin encasing your ugly soul- you will not be aquitted !! | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 201 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.249.41.91 |
post 199 is not actually verbatim from toe-knee...just a can of sarcasm, along with a can of worms, from the worm can opener !! LOL | ||
| smitty Advanced Member Username: smitty Post Number: 583 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.135 |
W C O: Sorry, but I'm not quite getting it..Could you please be a little clearer on how you feel about Tony? Lol ;) | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 202 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.243.164.178 |
well, Smitty, where should I start ????? | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 292 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.140.64.102 |
Smitty, I hope Don did keep it. 30M will always come in handy. However, Any current members have any comments on the Beatle Masters? | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 431 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.242.140.218 |
Heynow, who gives a rats a$$ about the so-called Beatle Masters. Shouldn't we be more concerned that children are being raped & abused there? Shouldn't our focus be in getting the truth out about TA, not whether or not he has a stupid Beatles album? Seriously! | ||
| bintheredunthat Junior Member Username: bintheredunthat Post Number: 42 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 65.6.192.147 |
Why would he not sell his Beatles master because it was so wordly but then promote JR and the "Dallas" TV show? Talk about worldly. And what about all the country stars that sang at the Alamo restaurant? They weren't doing Gospel concerts. They were singing about adultery, drunkeness, cheating, lying etc. (all favorite topics of TA. If he had a Beatles master he would have sold it without any moral misgivings. So obviously it's just another one of his many lies. Alamo can definately be described as someone who loveth and maketh a lie. Everything about him than can be verified turns out to be a lie. Everything! Does anybody know of any of his claims that are true? I sure don't. | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 293 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.140.64.102 |
Stoppin, Yes, I do care and that is my focus. There is a method to the madness. Trust me. | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 432 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.242.140.218 |
Allrighty then | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 203 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.243.164.178 |
once again- prime example of HYPOCRISY. One of the sisters got into so much trouble with susan alamo, for listening to none other than... the Beatles, yet the world hypocrite brought country music singers in, with all their lyrics, and that was just FINE, huh ?? anything went, as long as toni and susan's seal of approval was stamped on it. HEYNOW- why are you obsessing on the "pretend Beatles album" those of us who heard it are telling you; "those were not the Beatles !!" toni probably recorded some drunks, singing in a BAR !! so what if you fell for the "Beatlesmasterhype", years ago, why keep on believing lies that toni told us ??? what could it profit you ??? we should be 10,000 times more concerned for girls and women, little boys and girls, TRAPPED with toni alamo, subject to severe beatings with 2x4's, being punched,( while wearing a huge ring), girls screaming for someone to come and save them, as toni goes after them, cornering them, with NO MERCY, in the rapingmobile !! some of the girls have been as young as 7 & and 8 years old. their lousy parents sent them there, like lambs to the slaughter house !! other parents were oblivious to toni's motives, never dreaming he had become a monstrous pervert, preying on young girls and women. they need our prayers. Some seem as if they are resigned to their fate, and this is so very sad. to be so young, and stuck there, doing whatever the world pedophile says...God help every one of those poor girls, and heal the ones who have escaped, help them to forget the trauma of that great-grandfather-age, slobbering pedophile going after them to rape them, and let their lives be full of joy, hope, and the blessings of God !!! | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 274 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
your mouth is pretty perversed nostoppin, Proverbs 4:24,Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee. When you talk like that,I can see that you probably have a hard time,governing your whole body,and when you talk like that people may think this of you also,Isaiah 59:3,For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. Get back on the right track no stoppin. | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 433 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.242.140.218 |
Floridian, I am perverse because I used the word A$$??? Thats a good one! Let me clue you in on what PERVERSE really is.... Having sex with little girls (and saying God told you to) is PERVERSE!!! Call up Tony and quote all those scriptures to him, would ya!! "he that hath ears, let him hear" | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 277 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
The point is that you are defameing your testimony,and you know you can not pull the mote out unless you get your own out,do not be the same as you say tony is, you know hypocritical,be a true christian.tony gets scriptures from me also,but he does not complain. | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 347 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 72.145.149.148 |
Why should tonee complain about scriptures? He obviously doesn't believe them. | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 434 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.153.192.201 |
Floridian, I don't recall giving my "testimony" on Factnet, so how can I defame it? No wonder Tony is blind with all those "motes" in his eyes. | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 280 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
there was a couple of times you said you where a christian,isnt that you statement your testimony? | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 435 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.153.192.201 |
Please direct me to such a post, Floridian. Thanks | ||
| bintheredunthat Junior Member Username: bintheredunthat Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 65.6.192.147 |
Only an unsaved reprobate hater of God and hater of souls would consider rape, child molestation, child abuse and adultery as merely motes in the eye. The Bible says that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of heaven. What defames a testimony is justifying evil. I don't know who you are no stoppin but I do know that you oppose evil and that's a good testimony according to the Bible. What's really sick is when people quote scriptures and claim to be followers of Christ but then turn around and justify despicable horrendous crimes against God and man. The Catholic church does the same thing to cover up the crimes of their priests as well. So its nothing new. | ||
| jackrussell Intermediate Member Username: jackrussell Post Number: 279 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 24.73.21.109 |
I still say if the Beatle stuff Tony has, had any real cash value, he would have cashed in on it a long time ago, even before the fall of Georgia Ridge. Tony cashes everything in, I would be surprised if he allows much equity to accrue in real estate holdings. Alamo wants to be able take flight with a large stash of cash, in a moments notice, once Marshall Dillon picks up his scent. Phew!! | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 436 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.153.192.201 |
Still researching, Floridian? whew!!! | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 296 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.130.213.67 |
Jack, You might have a point there. However, I would like to hear from the current members what has happened. We haven't heard from them in awhile and I am curious about the "masters" story and many other things that are currently going on. | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 437 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.242.140.218 |
Heynow, I'm sure Tony would let "current members" just jump right on Factnet and tell you all about the things that are currently going on. Good luck with that..... | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.130.213.67 |
Thanks, However I am sure you understand everbody has a free will. An example is you exercised your free will and decided the foundation was not for you. I think you would agree current foundation members have this option also. So, when they want to post on here they can. They all know the drill how to post here and the beauty of it is, they can do it anonymously without the rest of the outfit knowing who did it. A bold move maybe but, a wise one. Now then, when they do post here we will be available to extend a hand of help and love as opposed to attacks (remember I am speaking about the current members NOT world pastors). They need to get out and we are here to help not hinder any progress in that regard. Come and let us reason together. | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 438 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.242.140.218 |
No Heynow, I would not agree that current foundation members have the option to post on Factnet. Some don't even have the option of choosing their spouses or the number of children they can have. Of course, everyone has a free will, some just choose not to use it. | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 206 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.243.164.178 |
yep, different strains for different brains. after being around the perv's house, in the San Fernando Valley, and hanging around the office (like a recreation room, turned office) I would say it's safe to assume NOBODY would risk the consequences of sneaking over to a computer, and posting anything on the "hated Factnet". Living here in San Antonio, I would liken that to wearing a Lakers shirt to a Spurs game. you can bet your boots...there would be evil in store. | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 283 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
no_stoppin_me,Shall I show you the post ? or if you are not a christian,would you like to say that old fashion sinners prayer,I am sure that their are many here that would love to pray with you no_stoppin_me. You know no_stoppin_me,all the effort that you have done can not be accepted to win your salvation,,Nothing but the Blood of Jesus Christ can wash away your sins,Would you like to pray no_stoppin_me.? | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 301 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.130.214.141 |
Can Opener, Did they know about factnet when you were there? Anyway if they feel it would be risky posting anonymously here they can always email us direct. From time to time we post our email addresses here like this: thizizit@hotmail.com Either way will work. So, all they need is web access and a willing heart. The rest is easy. | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 207 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.243.164.178 |
heynow, If they knew about Factnet during the summer of 1992, I never heard one thing about it. WAS there a Factnet in existence then ?? I discovered it in Feb. 2007, myself. | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 348 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 68.155.166.57 |
I would like to pray that floridiot would leave this board forever. nobody wants him here. amen. | ||
| alanb Intermediate Member Username: alanb Post Number: 172 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.43.101.22 |
I second that amen. Halellulia! | ||
| wilma Advanced Member Username: wilma Post Number: 577 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.186.198.30 |
Heynow, Let's get technical here. How many people had access to the internet when you were at the Foundation? (a good answer would probably be ZERO) It may have increased by a very small amount since while doing business a few select people would have access to computers, maybe even a few with internet access. Still there is the FEAR FACTOR! Even the few people with access to a computer and internet access would have the EXTREME FEAR that would keep them from using this message board if by some remote chance they knew it existed. The handful of people from Tony's group who have posted on here only did so at Tony's direction and with him standing over their shoulder approving what they had to say. If someone sneaks out and gets to a library computer they have already crossed the line and have started questioning things there. It's doubtful anyone in the group would contact anyone on this forum. Tony has convinced them that we are "backsliders", "reprobates", "traitors", and the like. They could pick up a phone just as easy, but they don't. After they actually leave the group, one thing they may do after they have been out of the group for a period of time is check out Tony Alamo on a google search. When they find out about Factnet they will get an earful won't they? And they will know that ALL the things we are saying are true because they have seen a lot of it with their own eyes and ears. Another thing they will realize is that there is a good life after leaving the alamo group. WE ARE THE SUCCESS STORIES!! We are survivors! We love God, love our FREEDOM, enjoy life, we are contributing members of society, support our families, love our kids, fight for justice, and are making a difference in this world. susieG | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 302 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.130.214.141 |
Wilma, And more success stories to come. Just doing my part to make it easier for a success to happen. When I was told to leave the fellowship in 1989 the internet wasn't really near as vast as it is now. I am sure I would contact some folks if I had their phone numbers. Nowadays I will betcha there are a good number of current members that have access to the net. Think about it. Here you have a communication medium that is virtually free to use. The foundation has properties across the U.S. They save a lot of phone bills by sending emails to one another. Don't you think the (so called) world pastor is taking advantage of this freebee? I would say yes. Now then I am sure there are Bro and Sis that have access will sneak a peek at this board. Let me put it another way. A few years back I happened to run into Ray Az. He was happy to see me and we spoke for awhile. No ill words at all. Why? Even though a current member He was alone. Sooo if folks are alone and have some curiousity, they will look on here. I assure you. Always keep this in mind when you post. | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 284 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
It is true that some people would not have me here,you do not speak for everyone here,when you say no one you do judge unrightously,and this is a judgement that you can not make brotherd, Matthew 7:2,For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. It is not good to see that you have a non God fearing,non God or Jesus Christ believeing,person giving you a amen,Ya know something brotherd,please let this not fall upon you or alanb, Matthew 15:14,Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 439 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 68.223.210.209 |
Yes, Floridian, please show me the post! I figured with all the research you've been doing, you would have posted it by now. I'll wait... And Floridian, "Work out your own salvation, with fear and trembling" Ever hear that one??? | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 285 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
wilma the way you bring up that mental health center is as if the Lord Jesus Christ,is not able to keep us,yet I will remind you and all of this,Hebrews 12:2,Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. I will ask you wilma and all who read this board,weather you where in the church or not,or weather you are in the church now or not,??? When you said that sinners prayer did you recieve Salvation. All that can and will answer,answer now. I did recieve Salvation,I did I did,and I am,I am. Jesus Christ is Lord. | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 286 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
no stoppin me,Yes that scripture is very much alive and it applies to me as much as to all,I wanted to wait before I reposted,since you asked I will post, Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 11:01 pm:,Don & Kathy Wylie were one of the first people that I saw when I left the cult. I was scared to death to see them. Every since they left, they were considered the "biggest weasels". They were the kindest, most generous people. I will never forget how good they treated me when I was so "green" to the "world of sin". Are you saying that you where not a christian then? and that you are not now? | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 442 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 68.223.210.209 |
Floridian, This is what you posted that I said... "there was a couple of times you said you where a christian,isnt that you statement your testimony?" No Floridian, I really don't see how the post that you so diligently researched says anything to that affect, do you? Nice try though... | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 289 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
No stoppin me,there are quite a few other post that sound very much like you are saying you are a christian no stoppin me,So I guess that I am wrong, what you are saying is that you are not a christian,would you like to become a true Christian right now and start letting Jesus Christ bring you true peace and a sound mind no stoppin me ? | ||
| no_stoppin_me Intermediate Member Username: no_stoppin_me Post Number: 444 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 68.223.210.209 |
Ok Floridian, we have taken up way too much valuable Factnet space discussing whether or not I am a Christian, bla bla bla. Now lets get back to the real reason for this board: Lest we forget.... Tony Alamo is a liar Tony Alamo is a thief Tony Alamo is a polygamist Tony Alamo is a fornicator Tony Alamo is a pervert Tony Alamo is a child abuser Floridian, I have "true peace" and a very sound mind, do you? | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 291 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
Yes I do,Jesus Christ is Lord,can you say that,no stoppin me? | ||
| jackrussell Intermediate Member Username: jackrussell Post Number: 282 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 24.73.23.18 |
Floridian, am glad you ventured onto this forum to a point, however this thread is about Best of the Beatles, not Floridian. But there is that thread just for You! Since Floridian made his debue here I have to ask myself, Were many of us like that before, in the streets witnessing, browbeating, and trying to corner so many strangers with the many intimidating scriptures, whether they applied or not? And were we so aptly coached and groomed by our illustrious leaders to constantly strain at a gnat and swallow a camel on a perpetual 'reporting' obsession amongst our own selves in the confines of the foundation lifestyle? Answer is mostly a yes. Talk about divide and conquer, and spiritual/political cannabalism! It is no wonder that many of us left the foundation rather spiritual/emotional cripples. But thank God the lionshare posting here shed most of the Alamo mindset over time. When I was there, I did sometimes pick up on outside Christians looking at me/us kind of as nutjobs when they really heard us interact with one another and our approach with others on the outside. We were Alamo jaded, and not able to look into a mirror for a spell, but the spell broke when most left the deceit behind. But it is interesting to see what we left behind, when one has left the foundation, but the foundation never left him. Sure glad I left when I did! | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 292 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
Jack have you search the internet about pete best?,here is a good site for your investigations,copy and paste, http://www.beatlemoney.com/beatles6063records. http://www.classicbands.com/beatles.html http://articles.absoluteelsewhere.net/Articles/my_friend_john_davies.html | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 349 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 68.19.69.26 |
Proverbs 26:4 | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 208 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.243.164.178 |
Eccl.10:11 | ||
| bintheredunthat Junior Member Username: bintheredunthat Post Number: 45 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 65.6.192.147 |
WCO I think you should include 13 and 14 as well. | ||
| weaned_child Intermediate Member Username: weaned_child Post Number: 106 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 85.195.123.24 |
definitely mischievous madness | ||
| heynow Intermediate Member Username: heynow Post Number: 304 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.130.208.124 |
Floridian, I checked those links. Nothing about the Pete Best tapes. Good reading though. 2004 I met Denny Seiwell. He had some good stories. Still wonderin what exactly happened to those so called "masters". Oh well maybe the truth will rise to surface. Peace Heynow | ||
| wild_dream Intermediate Member Username: wild_dream Post Number: 162 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 222.123.69.206 |
Greetings from beautiful Chiang Mai, Thailand, Bill, Suwimon, Nikom, Gauw, Noon, and Toy. | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 293 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
1 Corinthians 11:30,For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31,For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32,But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. 1 Corinthians 9: 16,For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! Ecclesiastes 10:10,If the iron be blunt, and he do not whet the edge, then must he put to more strength: but wisdom is profitable to direct. 11,Surely the serpent will bite without enchantment; and a babbler is no better. 12,The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious; but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself. | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 350 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 72.145.150.144 |
Proverbs 26:4 | ||
| modesto Intermediate Member Username: modesto Post Number: 278 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 76.209.135.161 |
I had a copy of "The Best of the Beatles" when I was a kid.It was on, I think, the "Savage" label and released in the early to mid sixties.It is also available on the internet now.Tony simply had nothing to do with it.Complete fabrication on his part. | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 401 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 68.223.4.240 |
Just like everything else in his life, a fabrication...How Great I Art! LOSER! | ||
| floridian Intermediate Member Username: floridian Post Number: 357 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.170.109.133 |
Hey Modesto you been out awhile,We hope all is o.k.,Do you bring us news of your travels | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 402 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 68.223.4.240 |
Can you imagine being at the end of your life, a pathetic, shriveled old man, hated by all who know you, and knowing that everything you had in life you fabricated or stole? That to get to the top you were willing to step on and destroy anyone in your way? How do you plan to face God, Tony Alamo? | ||
| brother_d Intermediate Member Username: brother_d Post Number: 403 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 68.223.4.240 |
A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches. | ||
| anchored Advanced Member Username: anchored Post Number: 539 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 71.205.65.52 |
Amen Bro-D, The name of Tony Alamo aka Bernie Lazar Hoffman will go down in infamy. His whole gig was to exalt himself above the stars of God. How stupid of him to think that he could transcend God's laws and take the place of God in our lives. Lucifer tried that just prior to the creation and look where it landed him and 1/3 of the angels who listened to him and fell for his garbage. | ||
| worm_can_opener Intermediate Member Username: worm_can_opener Post Number: 224 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.243.164.178 |
It would have been better for Bernie Lazare Hoffman to never have been born. | ||
| pobox398 Intermediate Member Username: pobox398 Post Number: 152 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 75.66.235.106 |
 Bingo! |
