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open_mind
Junior Member
Username: open_mind
Post Number: 27
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 70.178.128.46
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:35 am: | 
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tony alamo has now made it a rule in the church that nobody is alowed to eat any kind of dairy or beef or pork,yes,that includes no cheese in your sandwich,no butter on your bread,no ranch dressing on your salad,no hot dogs,no burgers,no yogurt,no ice cream for childrens birthdays,nothing!if anybody disobeys this insanity,they are to be punished.
this insanity has gone as far as what is Godly food and what is Satanic food. |
exmember10
Member
Username: exmember10
Post Number: 64
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.222.207.144
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:50 am: |
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Open,
You don't even know the half of it. I can only say so much on this forum.
But with regards to the Milk and Meat, when you think about it the main source in Milk and Meat is protein. This is very much needed for energy and for brain development. The Lord knew what he was doing when he provided these things for Adam & Eve |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 213
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:21 am: |
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Morning Exe10 & Open,
Hmmm. No: dairy,beef, pork. This is getting scary.
Open, Ex what about fish?
Imaging being in hell with Tony. That gives me fear.
1Timothy 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,that the latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in Hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry,and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received, with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
I think he wants everyone to leave so he can sell all the property and go to somewhere never to be found.
Again What about fish? Fish is Kosher.
-Mix |
anchored
Intermediate Member
Username: anchored
Post Number: 228
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 71.205.65.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:48 am: |
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Amen Mix,
The Lord knew what the conditions would be in these last days. Everything we eat now contains some contaminants. That's why the Lord said in the next verse. I Tim. 4:4 "For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."
Also, the Lord said we would eat poisonous things in these last days and not die.
Just more heresy from the World Pervert Pedophile, Child Molesting, Raping, Lying, False Prophet, Tony Alamo. I'm sure he dines on the finest meat cuisines and throws the bones to his minions. After all he calls them cur DOGS, weasels, devils, lazy, no good, a**holes, etc.
Tony Alamo is one cruel taskmaster. He dishes out cruel bonds, scourgings and imprisonment to the Body of Christ. This evil man is full of heresies and wicked abominations and atrocities, a disgrace to the human race. |
anchored
Intermediate Member
Username: anchored
Post Number: 229
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 71.205.65.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 11:07 am: |
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Is there anything worse than a great grandfather-aged, buggy-eyed, pickled, pervert, pedophile practicing dwarf in elevator boots calling himself a "world pastor"? |
anchored
Intermediate Member
Username: anchored
Post Number: 230
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 71.205.65.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 11:18 am: |
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I forgot froward-mouthed and foul-breathed. |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 214
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:07 pm: |
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Ha-ha-ha-ha Mac,
I bet he eats meat laughing, maybe he will choke to death, If he was choking to death who would lift a finger to help? I bet he laughs like the possessed perv. he is. He must enjoy the denial of the remaining followers. REMAINING!!! Who could remain there??? Tones is like Jaba the Hut in Star Wars, UN-REAL!!! Not any kind of meat or dairy;That leaves fish and soybean. Soybean is not quite complete protein. Fish and Soybean are expensive. What about the cooks in the restaurant if it still exists? That would drive them crazy.
And what happens to someone who gives in and eats meat. Assuming they are caught what is the punishment besides living there? The 2x4, whip,
or they must get beaten. It's to crazy.
-Mix |
exmember10
Member
Username: exmember10
Post Number: 65
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 208.5.127.4
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:08 pm: |
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Mix,
Fish is okay but fish is expensive. I know for sure my son doesn’t get a serving of fish a day, maybe like once a month at best. He works hard (as you all already know.) So we are dealing with lack of sleep & nutrition for a growing boy. But I guess I should be thankful he is a boy and not a girl otherwise Lord knows what they would be doing to him. |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 215
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:57 pm: |
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Hi Ex,
Chunk light tuna should be cheap. Peanut butter.
I remember they used to by canned Mackerel. Ton-E
probably has lot's and lot's of fish. Even if they
had and served Chicken everyday dairy matters.
Speaking of meals Tony needs to be served
with a lawsuit.
Not funny. I am real sorry Ex. This makes us like real Christians of the distant past. I pray that the devil TA gets his and your son's well being
until Tone gets his. |
worm_can_opener
Intermediate Member
Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 175
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 69.150.73.22
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 1:29 pm: |
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sounds very similar to the crescent heights diet !! breakfast cornmeal mush with molasses
lunch watery soup 3% vegetables
dinner same soup 1/2 fermented fruit salad |
anchored
Intermediate Member
Username: anchored
Post Number: 231
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 71.205.65.52
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 1:39 pm: |
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Ex-member,
You can be assured that he is not including himself on that meat denial fast. He's probably just cutting his followers off because it's chipping away at his money coffers too much.
So what else is there to eat?? Eggs? No, that's dairy. So, that leaves them white rice, noodles, beans and potatoes. You know he's not forking out the money for fresh fruits and vegetables. He wants to make sure he has his stolen millions when he has to be on the lam soon and go into permanent hiding. |
worm_can_opener
Intermediate Member
Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 176
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 69.150.73.22
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 1:41 pm: |
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one thing we can bank on, is that the fat boa constrictor isn't going without- I'm sure that even as I am writing this, he's stuffing himself with every imaginable expensive delicacy !! then BURPING IN THEIR FACES !! LOL |
exmember10
Member
Username: exmember10
Post Number: 67
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 208.5.127.4
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:23 pm: |
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Mix/Anchored/Can Opener,
I don't know the details of the punishment but I know it can't be simple. My son acts like someone is going to murder him if he eats these things. (Things I know he loves to eat) When he is with me a sit him down and make him eat good complete meals. I tell him if anybody questions why he ate Meat and diary tell them your mother forces you to eat healthy complete meals and so they will need to deal with her (me) on it. (I tell him to tell TA that as while). Who died and made Tony my son’s doctor?
But no worries, God is good, all these things have been written down and someone is going to have a lot of explaining to do once the truth is out the bag. They know they are wrong. That is why every time I take them to court there are about six people lying and denying what they are doing to these children. The Lord see and will account. |
exmember10
Member
Username: exmember10
Post Number: 68
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 208.5.127.4
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:25 pm: |
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Mix/Anchored/Can Opener,
I don't know the details of the punishment but I know it can't be simple. My son acts like someone is going to murder him if he eats these things. (Things I know he loves to eat) When he is with me a sit him down and make him eat good complete meals. I tell him if anybody questions why he ate Meat and diary tell them your mother forces you to eat healthy complete meals and so they will need to deal with her (me) on it. (I tell him to tell TA that as while). Who died and made Tony my son’s doctor?
But no worries, God is good, all these things have been written down and someone is going to have a lot of explaining to do once the truth is out the bag. They know they are wrong. That is why every time I take them to court there are about six people lying and denying what they are doing to these children. The Lord see and will account. |
raining
Intermediate Member
Username: raining
Post Number: 153
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 68.127.125.17
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:20 pm: |
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Tony has these people, including the children, believing that God talks to him and if they disobey Tony then they are really disobeying God.
That lying, child abusing, polygamy practicing, pedophile , Tony Alamo, talks and then stops and says stuff like, "I just prayed and God is telling me you are lying" He always make sure he has lots of kids around him so that it strikes fear in their hearts. After all Tony Alamo claims he can make it rain and stop the rain. |
raining
Intermediate Member
Username: raining
Post Number: 154
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 68.127.125.17
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:37 pm: |
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Like Leader like follower! Tony Alamo's perverted pedophile lusts have also over taken his followers: This post by Open mind reveals the perverted lusts that are going on behind the foundation walls. 30-40 year men just lurking and waiting for one of the foundation's little girls to turn 13 so she can become his wife!
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Posted by open-mind on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:05 am:
well the man that was going to marry leah,his name is johnothan hester,he is an ex convict and recently got out of jail for some street gang thing he used to be in, they had already said the vows and went to open gifts when vern jordan came in the cafe and told him to run because the cops were there at the front door,so him and leah ran,the rest of us were instucted to hurry and put away any evidence of a wedding,and tell the cops there was no wedding.so we did.
leah and her mom got put out of the church for telling her sister laura about the wedding.i dont know wat happend after words.
as for the other little girls:
misheala parrish:13 married a 30yrold matt something.
jackie garner:12married 30 yrold dale shono(now has a baby girl)
wendy tiner:13 married around 30 yr old randy hamrick(now has two children)
rachel scheff:14 married 24yrold tom neverdal from norway.these are the aproxomate ages
i have no idea about sara scheff,she lives in la with her parents.
i havent been there for over a year and a half.i know tamela,alsandria,and charity reid live at or near tonys house.(al reids girls)
also angela ondrisek 14,miranda eddy 14 are staying there. i have no idea if tony has taken them for a wife or not. |
jackrussell
Member
Username: jackrussell
Post Number: 99
Registered: 8-2006
Posted From: 24.73.22.33
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:31 pm: |
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There but by the grace of God go I. All remember, when you were in the Alamo cult what staunch supporters and defenders of T&S most were. But there was a disturbance, and many got out to get better, at different points in time.
Conscience alert is like body pain. It really starts to hurt when something is wrong. You can try to deny it, ignore it, take pain killers to dull it, but those nerves are there for a reason, and if you do not pay attention to it matters get worse until the disturbing unrest forces your hand to either seek the root of the problem and get the healing you need, or completely deaden the nerves(sear) and live in unending danger to yourself and others.
The point to the prior dialogue is an analogy of those followers having stayed with Tony Alamo so many, many years, condoning and celebrating the Tony Alamo profession of faith(unbelief) in an escalating lifestyle of bizarre heresy, and deviancy. Ultimately, they are so apt to become even more than joined at the hip. Like siamese twins joined at the head or abdomin, sharing vital organs, arterial veins and connective tissue are cojoined and inoperable interfaced with Tony Alamo. Spiritual, emotional and mental metastisy. What a plight!!
Tony Alamo could not fight his way out of a paper bag were it not for all those enabing twins, sharing his cosmos....
Get separated, and come out from among them, for why would you die, when there is life in Jesus Christ. |
raining
Intermediate Member
Username: raining
Post Number: 155
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 68.127.125.17
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:25 am: |
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As long as the folks inside the alamo joint believe Tony Alamo is God's man of the hour upon this earth they will never leave! Even if they get kicked out of that alamo joint they still are loyal followers and are ever trying to get back in good graces with "World Pastor" (World Pervert).
Tony's fake prayer and telling people "God spoke to him and told him this or that"
Tony controls their thoughts and hearts, he breathes fear into their hearts. They equate Tony to God , but they can't see that. In their minds tony is being persecuted for the Gospel. They actually think it is ok to give their 13 year old girls to men 2x's their age. Having babies at the age of 13 & 14 years old, they are still babies themselves.
Tony Alamo's doctrine is disgusting and perverted, and he pretends God is his backer & enforcer of all the damning threats he breathes out against his supporters.
I about fell out of my chair when I was listening to his radio broadcast where he claims he can make it rain and stop the rain! What is worse is in the background you'll hear all the little girl's & wives voices sayin "AMEN" |
floridian
Intermediate Member
Username: floridian
Post Number: 251
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:30 am: |
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which radio broad cast was that ? |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 222
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:58 pm: |
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Tony Alamo is a fabricator. He has changed his testimony.He does not follow the new testament. He makes up his own Bible. He is a pedophile, a false prophet, fool, thief,never finished high school. No has hired guns He has blasphemed the word and is taking his followers to Hell with him. His radio shows have been posted and been covered unless some need special education. |
worm_can_opener
Intermediate Member
Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 179
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.249.41.91
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:24 pm: |
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yeah, Raining, toni has always made sure he had an "amen corner" like the old pentecostal churches !! LOL I'll never forget a tape (I was already out of his joint) on it, toni suddenly yells "and polygamy is RIGHT !!!" you heard what sounded like 15 people, male and female yelling their "amen" and "that's RIGHT !!" over and over. can you imagine him seeing anyone just sitting there, in that room, NOT agreeing with the "world pastor" ??!! it would have been time to either smite that person, or to give them a good paddling on the behind, huh ?? |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 211
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:13 pm: |
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WHAT!! No meat?? No salad dressing? What about marty's french dressing? NO CHEESE?? What about Rondelle or laughing cow cheese? Isn't there a scripture that says something like "They will forbid the eating of meat in the last days." Or something like that (Where is floridian when you need him?). Anyway I eat meat and by the grace of God, my health is fabulous. |
open_mind
Junior Member
Username: open_mind
Post Number: 30
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 70.178.128.46
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 2:54 am: |
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they eat anything as long as it has no traits if dairy.thats one of they reasons i left,i couldnt stand only being able to eat,soy cheese,soy butter,soy milk,soy burgers,soy evrything,i dont believe the way you eat affects your walk with God. |
floridian
Intermediate Member
Username: floridian
Post Number: 263
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 72.149.216.254
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 7:23 am: |
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Matthew 15:37,And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets full.
Luke 7:36,And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.
Luke 9:13,But he said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they said, We have no more but five loaves and two fishes; except we should go and buy meat for all this people.
Luke 14:15,And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
Acts 2:46,And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Romans 14:20,For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
1 Corinthians 8:13, Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
Not being able to eat meat can also offends people very bad. It was wrong to mix them both together,Deuteronomy 14:21,Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.
Most Jews do no eat cheese burgers
(Message edited by floridian on September 10, 2007) |
worm_can_opener
Intermediate Member
Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 182
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.249.41.91
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 10:43 am: |
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that sounds a lot like the meatless diet we had at Crescent Heights (with the exception of Sunday afternoons) breakfast was hot corn-meal mush, sweetened with blackstrap molasses and donuts. lunch was a 93% water-based soup, with particles of squash, cabbage, onion and carrot. there was always TONS of bread in the hallway, to stuff ourselves with, by the grace of God !! dinner consisted of that same soup, along with a half-fermented fruit salad, peeled in the backyard, with flies jumping all over it. our only beverage was Golden Seal Tea, which, since it's so healthful, it probably gave us the anti-oxidants we needed. (?) |
floridian
Intermediate Member
Username: floridian
Post Number: 264
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 5:56 pm: |
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Yum Yum,I knew you where and are,one of the first sisters Claudia,who where some of the first sister claudia ?, Yumj Yum. |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 213
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:42 pm: |
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floridian, What about that scipture "They will forbid the eating of meat in the last days" Or something like that? See if you can find it. I think it is one of Paul's epistles. |
floridian
Intermediate Member
Username: floridian
Post Number: 267
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 9:13 pm: |
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1 Timothy 4:3,Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1 Corinthians 8:8,But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 1 Corinthians 8:9,But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. Acts 2:46, And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
1 Corinthians 8:13,Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
Heynow I have noticed that now onw else answered your call on Soul winning,and I also npticed that no one else claimed to have stand toe to toe with tony,why is that ?" |
smitty
Intermediate Member
Username: smitty
Post Number: 104
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 207.200.112.35
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 12:06 am: |
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Prov. 26:4 |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 236
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 4:04 am: |
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Flor..
Soul winning sounds good. I started a witnessing thread. Time for a new one. This should be to inspire and instruct only, not brag. Maybe I can
set up a new forum. More later.
-Mix |
floridian
Intermediate Member
Username: floridian
Post Number: 269
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 2:54 pm: |
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Yes you are right Mixter1,brag we cannot brag on doing our reasonable duty.start it up Mixter1 |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 221
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 6:07 pm: |
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That's the scripture! 1 Timothy 4:3,Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Isn't there something before the scripture that says, "In the last days........"? |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 222
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 6:10 pm: |
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Yes Ma'am
I'll have more Ham. |
exmember10
Member
Username: exmember10
Post Number: 71
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 208.5.127.4
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:41 am: |
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1 Timothy -chapter 4:
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
This really just proofs how ungodly TA is. |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 224
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 6:13 pm: |
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That's it! In the last days commanding to abstain from meats.
Big thick red and greasy
I could eat a gallon easy
nothing is considered dross
when it's cooked in Bar-B-Que Sauce |
floridian
Intermediate Member
Username: floridian
Post Number: 271
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 6:50 pm: |
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No one in the church told me that we are not eating meat now. |
bintheredunthat
Junior Member
Username: bintheredunthat
Post Number: 40
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 65.6.192.147
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 7:21 pm: |
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That's because the church is eating meat. What exmember10 said was that people at the Alamo cult are not allowed to eat meat. Tony Alamos cult is not a Christian church. I know that the people there call themselves Christians as does Alamo. But only those with a very superficial knowledge of the Bible actually believe that it is a Christian church.
For instance Christians believe in salvation by faith in the shed blood of Christ. But alamo teaches that salvation is a five step plan of works.
Christians believe that God is no respecter of persons and that all are held to the same standards. Alamo teaches that special blessings are given to the very faithful such as himself of course. This is simply a rehash of the Catholic doctrine of indulgences. Good works entitle you to a little sin on the side is what it boils down to.
Of course sin is what caused Christ to have to suffer on the cross. Anyone who would condone an organization that preaches these things could not be a christian except the very unlearned and weak in the faith. Those who can be swayed by personalities instead of the word of God.
The list is long and time does not permit me to go on but both of those are documented in Alamo literature and have been posted before on this website. |
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