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mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 96
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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False prophets continued,, It gets worse.
Now, I need some help with this one. I'm not a self proclaimed genius/prophet like TonE. The testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophesy. So...
Mark 13:14 'But when you see the abomination of
desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, let him that readeth understand.
Math 24:15 'When ye therefore shall see the
abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the
prophet, standing in the holy place,whoso readeth let him understand.
'standing where it ought not' and 'stand in that holy place' are different but useful. Both are still admonitions. Enter A-limbo Land. -TONY SAID: "Those Greek translators made an error!". Oh, Really Tones??? How astute!!!You don't speak any Hebrew, ancient Aramaic, or Greek by any chance??? Maybe Mark heard another admonition. If there is a chance Mark or Mathew made a mistake you wouldn't allow that, seeing as you're so perfect. Remember that book you plagiarized TonE? Well I have a quiz. What is a paradox? As self appointed "WORLD pastor" I'm sure you need to
make things less complicated for the masses. You carry this process up to the cross. Ton-E YOU SAY that my personal savior who died on the cross did not say "My God My God Why hast thou forsaken me" or "ELI ELI LAMA SABACHTHANI" which means the same thing according to Bible Scholars. You can tell by the word pacing. He also said "it is finished" YOU SAY "NO!" Jesus said "God,God I have finished the work which you gave me to do from the foundation of the earth"(is that it?) Sound's like the pinnacle of cyber engineering. A ROBOT(Not Jesus) God!, God! Kind of wordy, huh? Almost like he digs on he pain. .....Tones go witness to Steven King, how about that? Tones would work in a Marke De Sade book. He might even ead that trash. Tony derives pleasure from being this sick freak. He delights in dispensing punishment. Kicking people out and taking their wife. Doing things in the worse way possible to Christians and enjoying it(Just delighting in it!!!) WICKED PIECE OF GARBAGE "WHAT ABOUT PSALM 22:1. THE LION FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH??? Better change the wording of that prophesy or Jesus will not have fulfilled as many prophesies.I guess that David, the Apostle Paul , and Peter were putting us on.TONY SAID "Jesus Christ fulfilled 333 prophesies and we know that too" Well I guess you never wrote that book.TON-E I can hear you saying in your tiny god voice: "I never said that, that's a lie from Hell" TONY SAID -"Jesus came to fulfill the law"(So he could go out raping and pediphyling out in his Limo. His sick summer of love "The ToneE A-limo rape foundation" Little gnome SEX DWARF. GROSS!!! YOU MUST BE PUTTING ME ON!!! He does it all with a straight face like he really means it. |
heynow
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Username: heynow
Post Number: 209
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:01 pm: |
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I know this has been discussed here on the board a few times but, I am curious. Does anybody remember when the foundation doctrine "It's okay to lie to the devil." started? I remember back about 1991 (I was out of the outfit)I spoke to a couple current foundation members and I am certain they told me a lie (fib?). I knew the objective facts and they denied them. I was a little puzzled at the time. Not sure why they lied. A few months ago It was metioned tony had stated on the radio he only had "one" wife. Strange he should say that and print a polygamy tract. Well, if I remember correctly this was explained on the board as tony "lying to the devil." Kind of a "catch all" doctrine. Let me make this clear, I believe the "lying to the devil" doctrine is still practiced at the foundation. I do have some questions. When did it actually start? Anybody living at the foundation remember how it came to be doctrine and how did tony explain it? |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 184
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.249.41.91
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:13 am: |
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sometime in 1977 or 1978 I walked into the "Bighouse" at # 5. (the back-door was always unlocked, because of the phone) the person who lived there at the time, was in the middle of a conversation with 3 of the sisters, when I walked in, I heard the following ; " if I were hiding toni and sue, and someone were at my door, wanting to know if they were inside my house, you better believe I'd lie to the devil, I sure would lie to the devil !!" this was back in the days when we were being taught that someday, it would come down to Christians versus Communists. The point I'm making, is there was definately a doctrine of "lying to the devil" way back then, whoever it came from. |
wilma
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Username: wilma
Post Number: 110
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 72.186.198.30
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 5:55 pm: |
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As I remember, in the late 70's, one incident was that the authorities went to the Batch Plant in Alma, AR looking for someone. (I'm not sure who, but they may have been looking for one of the young men that had concerned parents looking for them...Susan Alamo had them in hiding and referred to them as her "prayer warriors".)
The authorities questioned Joel Swimmer and he must have given them some information because next thing we heard was a big rebuke from Susan Alamo condemning Joel Swimmer. Saying "You people lie to the Lord but you won't lie to the devil." She said if Herod had asked Joel where the baby Jesus was, Joel would have told him. She went on and on and on like she usually did and by the time she was done I think that doctrine was pretty set with people who hung on her every word, thinking she could do no wrong. Does anyone else remember that particular situation. There were probably more just like it.
SusieG |
floridian
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Username: floridian
Post Number: 265
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:19 pm: |
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Proverbs 30:5,Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
To think that you can lie to the devil is to add to God's word,Proverbs 30:6,Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
You have lied in just adding,a statment that is not their.and when you add you deny the true word.There is no where in the bible to justify a lie to anyone,even if they are filled with the devil,you deny that Soul the truth, Proverbs 30: 7,Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die:
The truth is what sets you free,Jesus Christ. |
weaned_child
Junior Member
Username: weaned_child
Post Number: 27
Registered: 4-2006
Posted From: 85.195.123.24
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:27 pm: |
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"You people lie to the Lord but you won't lie to the devil."
Hmmmm
That does have a familiar blast from the past echo to it
what does "IC" in this thread's title mean? |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 212
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:38 pm: |
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Interesting stuff. Did anyone hear tony talking about (or expounding?) the "lying to the devil" doctrine in recent years or perhaps after Susie died? It seems to me the doctrine was quite narrow (only for certain situations)prior to Susie's death and was expanded by tony later on. |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 230
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 9:42 pm: |
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Yes WCO,
The conceptive origin of 'Lying to the Devil'-
In 1974 T&S began their T.V. show. Remember those blue suits. Every brother had their very own. That was so nice of them. You could really feel the love back then heynow, huh?
And WCO remember those nice outfit's all the sisters got? Let us commence.
Now, I know I have the time pinned down.
Problem: 'A Lie'-is known both to the Lord and the Devil himself.
Such a phrase would be uttered in anger
but still such a silly little nothing. We are
looking for a social skill.
Solution: Treat questionable statements as an attack and never answer it directly.
Prevarication/Evasiveness. Do not answer question.
1. Treat question as an acco.
2. Turn question around. Put it in their corner: Where they would have you.
3. keep them on the defensive.
[this is the essence of a perfect denial]
So, Treating those questions as an attack soon becomes a matter of your dignity,
so just counter banter. Act offended at least.
Act like they asked a stupid question.
Lie to the Devil was never named as such. I saw the evasive aspect first in 1974.
1974. Susan Alamo vs. Ted Patrick. acco: "They Eat out of trashcans!" Susan: "Only a stupid person would believe that!!", "we eat our food on the table when we eat.","Do you eat out of trashcans?"(turning it around, BACK AT THEM). PUT THEM ON THE DEFENSIVE LIKE JESUS DID.(An all purpose comeback)-With a Jesus stamp on it to boot. -Hey
So, what I mean is 'Lie to the devil' was at no
time a label for this method of comeback. It was an our programming if you will; It was a how to respond as Jesus would have?
Date: Sept/1984
For example: brother Paul Sparks was witnessing with other brothers and I greeted him. It was good to see him. He seemed much older. I said "HELLO PAUL". This was long after I left the church. He told me he finally got married. I asked to who? "That's wonderful", I said. I asked innocently if T&S gave anyone equity in housing or property yet. I mentioned how hard he and everyone worked there. He gave me the all purpose answer : "Yes we have our own houses". He passed over the depth of what I asked(In your own name, ownership, equity) I do not think he understood me. I did not force the issue. I just wished him my sincere best. (I really did.) But 'Lie to the Devil' is an emotional worst come to worst statement. I think the principal methods of protecting yourself was Susan's idea. 'Lie to the Devil' sounds like the perv. to me. Remember I'm talking early 70's 73,74,75 and in a early developmental stage. No doubt it had it's second batch of teeth in the early to late 1980's. Now it without any doubt has it's horns and the mark of the perv.
If you or someone you love has any of these
symtoms there is hope, there is treatment.
**** LEAVE NOW ****
-Mix |
phahrrrt_detector
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Username: phahrrrt_detector
Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 85.234.144.215
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 9:54 pm: |
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slam-dunk !!!
mix
datz uh 3 poyn-tur
dat iz !!! |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 217
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 1:07 am: |
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Mix, I understand the "evasive action" tactics and doctrine. This was around as long as I can remember. The "outright lie" doctrine is what I am trying to nail down.
A similar situation approx 1991 I just happened to speak with two brothers that were current foundation members. I had been out for a few years. We chatted for awhile and I inquired about the smite doctrine. One brother immediatly said "Never Happened." I was kinda surprised because I knew he had outright lied. This is much different than the "evasive action."
Of course I had first hand knowledge of the smite doctrine from the granddaddy himself T.A. Without calling anybody a lier and divulging that I had discussed this with tony a., I pryed a little hoping these two bros would come clean and tell me the truth. Nothing doing. They stuck to their guns and denied any smite stuff. Now I am really stumped. Hard to believe these guys would lie like that. No evasive action just lie.
Now then. After reading about "lying to the devil" doctrine here, I am still curious of the origin and how tony justified. Keep in mind this is definetely not to be confused with the "evasive" doctrine which I am quite familiar with. Anybody have more insite on this topic? |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 232
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 1:28 am: |
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Hi heynow,
I left in 1980. Sorry I never heared about it; Not from brothers or from Tony's mouth. Tell me what was the smite doctrine, if I may ask? |
smitty
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Username: smitty
Post Number: 105
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 207.200.116.135
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 2:05 am: |
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It was a gross twist of the proverb "Smite a scorner and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge." Prov. 19:25 Since the people in the foundation are "simple" by Tony's estimation, the only way to teach them is to beat it into those who screw up and let the others learn in fear. or as the French used to say "pour encourage les auteres" (Marcel, I apologize if my spelling is off.) |
mixter1
Intermediate Member
Username: mixter1
Post Number: 235
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.26.52
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 3:04 am: |
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That is Unreal. Sounds like he wanted people
to split. TOO SICK! |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 186
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.249.41.91
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 8:23 am: |
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things like "smiting" always leak out. I'm certain that everyone knew of at least one smiting episode. This was top priority to toni alamo, that every person fear toni, to the best of toni's ability. toni, alone, could never scare the whole congregation, he had to have certain people, who would act as a hierarchy, subordinate to toni's every command. It WORKED !! always, in the back of every functioning mind, there was that fear of being smitten. If it were not for that, there wouldn't have existed the "fear of toni" what could anyone really do, if they were, say, at the spec house, and decided they were going to let toni know that they were aware of what his story really was, and started reproving him, right to his face. all of us knew the dedication of the members of the hierarchy, he would have yelled to them, the poor person would have been ridiculously outnumbered, and not have been able to escape, either. there you go, that's why not only smiting, but THE FEAR OF BEING SMITTEN, kept everyone under, in toni's ruthless, dictatorial regime. During W.W. 2, the Jews weren't afraid of Hitler, they feared the Gestapo ! Hitler was not rounding up the Jews, his hierarchy were, Hitler didn't run the concentration camps, his faithful minions did, even the Jews were given a part in the "aktion", they were assigned to whipping their fellow Jews, as they unloaded from the cattle-cars. (does that ring a bell ??) Hitler never would have had ANY POWER, the people handed over the power to him, on a silver platter. |
anchored
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Username: anchored
Post Number: 234
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 71.205.65.52
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 8:33 am: |
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Absolutely right Can Opener. Great point. Tony Alamo has power and control only as long as he can continue to deceive his worshipping, subjected, duped, dedicated minions. |
jackrussell
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Username: jackrussell
Post Number: 110
Registered: 8-2006
Posted From: 70.126.187.95
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 9:57 am: |
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Mac,
great, incredibly informative last post. Thats it, that is exactly how it happens, first on a very gradual basis. I oftened wondered how the german people could have let their nation under Hitler become what it did. In studying the historical facts, one will find out that one of Hitlers right hand men was Goebels, a university educated over achiever who was appointed as 'minister of propaganda' who coordinated so many of the false props(lies) to stage a kindler-gentler hitler/germany to a nation of fooled citizenry, not so close to the action and the rest of the world, until it became all to obvious, and almost too late.
Hollywood boy, Tony Alamo knows all about props, but his radio messages, antics and atrocious shenanigans have also become so obvious. His cult and henchmen/women now are about as Christian as Hamas or Hezbollah. He put on real good show for awhile, but it has long been over.
my 2 cents |
anchored
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Username: anchored
Post Number: 238
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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G,
So true. Tony Alamo has always bragged about being such a great promotional artist. He's promoted HIMSELF behind the pulpit (not Jesus) and turned Christianity (his brand) into a money-gaining business to serve his vile, lascivious, perverted, fornicating, adulterous lusts.
The "fooled citizenry" being us back then and now those still there but not close to the action. I have no sympathy for the higher-ups (kiss butts) still there doing his bidding by obeying his every perverted wish and command. Like you said G, it has become all too obvious and that's why I don't have any sympathy for those that have seen A-lame-o in action for so many years yet still continue supporting him. The enormity of his unscriptural aberrant behavior and abusive crimes against people has made it obvious that he is definitely a sadistic charlatan wolf in sheeps clothing.
My half penny added to your 2 cents.
(Message edited by anchored on September 11, 2007) |
heynow
Intermediate Member
Username: heynow
Post Number: 223
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.64.102
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 6:19 pm: |
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What about that "Lying to the devil" deal? Was anybody there when tony explained it? I am still curious how this false doctrine was expanded after Susie's death. |
jackrussell
Intermediate Member
Username: jackrussell
Post Number: 113
Registered: 8-2006
Posted From: 65.32.49.155
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:09 am: |
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WCO,
Your post I meant as great, incredibly informative last post. Thats it, that is exactly how it happens, first on a very gradual basis as you spelled out.
Tony in a devilish manner has delegated unauthorized commands and power to his inner cirle. It is the direct antithesis of proper authority of church or governmental delegation via a congress, or board of directors guided by correct checks and balances.
Unfortunately, not really knowing any better, we all gave Tony and Sue license in those early days, to be the dictator duo, twin tyrants, ceo, king and queen and lord over us all. We mistakenly accepted them as so spiritually special and above the rules even set forth in new testament government, simply based on their prolific 'say so,' until it was found out how wrong it all was. |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 192
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.249.41.91
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:33 am: |
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yes, we were taught, right from the start, our church is the closest thing to the book of Acts, on the face of the earth. We are the only ones going out on the sreets, just as Jesus did, looking for sinners. We are the only ones who keep the commandments, the only ones, sold out to GOD, reading, praying, witnessing, having services every day, fasting, etc.
When the two of them came over to Crescent Hgts.on Sundays, people would react like they were so supernatural !! my older Christian said, when they pulled up in a yellow Mustang "who would have ever believed that two prophets would be driving up in a Mustang ??" WE exalted them, putting them on pedestals. We believed every word, when it came to "toni's testimony" when I saw Father Babbish in the audience, once, I figured toni would never allow him to be there, unless that whole scene in the office really happened.I mean, what if someone were to ask Father Babbish, and he would just say "I don't recall anything like that " but, of course, nobody approached him, being toni's friend. all that rubbish they fed us, like seeing flying saucers, toni's baseball bat brigade, being buddies with all those stars, being this big promoter ( I never heard of him, not once in my life, till I joined up) susan's 40 day fast, and how she broke the fast at Wilson's Restaurant, how he and susan were looking up at some clouds, then they found themselves looking DOWN at those clouds, the only thing I believe, that he told us, is how he hated ALL WOMEN, thought of them as house-pigs, and thought he was on this earth to PUNISH THEM !! THAT was surely the TRUTH. |
floridian
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Username: floridian
Post Number: 274
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
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(we were taught, right from the start, our church is the closest thing to the book of Acts, on the face of the earth. We are the only ones going out on the sreets, just as Jesus did, looking for sinners. We are the only ones who keep the commandments, the only ones, sold out to GOD, reading, praying, witnessing, having services every day, fasting, etc. )
I still believe this and there will be others to join in,you must admit that God had us learn His Word like no one else.Our accountibility is very very high,I can think of no one that I could blame,how about you all ?,is there anyone you or we could blame? |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 262
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 69.154.242.194
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I found a few scriptures today, that I would love to share with everyone.
"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof ?" Jer 5:31
"Then the Lord said unto me, the proghets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them:they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, sword and famine shall not be in this land; by sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer. 14: 14, 15.
I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings. Jer. 23: 21,22.
Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; the Lord hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie. Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will cast thee off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the Lord. So Hananiah the prophet died the same year in the seventh month. Jer.28: 15-17.
also Jer.23: 25-40 |
d_eddy
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Username: d_eddy
Post Number: 169
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 64.136.27.225
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Here is something to ponder: Susan Told Tony leave the church to the kids and move to europe or Isreal. Dont marry any of the sisters or you will take that church to hell. This was told to me in so many words by velda F Some of susan alamos last words. I believe Susan knew her time had come and did repent velda also told me many times susan would call her in the middle of the night sick and tired just fed up with tony and his uncontrolable ego,and was just to sick from the cancer to fight tony any longer .velda called the foundation and asked to talk to tony after susans death and she had found out about sharon and lydia and demanded to talk to tony and told tony how sickend she was and that he knows what susan had told him .
ok susan is gone velda is gone. tony is leading that church to hell with his out right lies and deception. The last words Susan spoke seem to be prophisies fullfilled look where the tony lieing
Pedafiler has taken his flock
my 2 cent |
dyann
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Username: dyann
Post Number: 283
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 12.72.152.122
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"... Hear now, Hananiah (Tony); the Lord hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie. Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will cast thee off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the Lord. So Hananiah the prophet died the same year in the seventh month. Jer.28: 15-17. "
Father God, I pray this is "the year".
Amen |
d_eddy
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Username: d_eddy
Post Number: 172
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 64.136.27.225
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d_eddy
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Username: d_eddy
Post Number: 98
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 4.224.213.210
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:00 pm:
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Yes it will get covered. which reminds me of the 1st time my heart stopped im sure some of you will remember I was 18 years old and working on the tree crew. I was on brad wheelers crew. we were in prattsville alabama. Tony wood ,Gordon mcgregor, jimmy mac dont talk back, marvin paineless,bill repent or parrish we all were haveing some brotherly compition Who could plant the most trees. well at 12 noon I had big woody in my back pocket but then as I went to get a drink of cold water ( boom I was out) the brothers loaded me in the van and prayed all the way to town I believe it was about a 45 min drive. The Dr came in and told me that he wanted to keep me to do more study on what would cause a 18 yr old to have a heart attack. But that they had me stabalized and no one would eccept the responcibility for the testing . thanks T.A.
All that blood sweat and tears and you wouldn't even pay for the testing .Now show me where the Love of Christ was in that whole experince?
more to come
d_eddy
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Username: d_eddy
Post Number: 99
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 4.224.213.210
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:05 pm:
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Luk 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain [man] went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded [him], and departed, leaving [him] half dead.
Luk 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked [on him], and passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion [on him],
Luk 10:34 And went to [him], and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Luk 10:35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave [them] to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
Luk 10:36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
Luk 10:37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
TONY> FOOD 4 THOUGHT
I thought I would repost this Tony was never concernd about any one but himself.
If you people still there at the alamo foundation believe for one second Tony alamo really cares about your eternal destiny you really need to wake up. Even Your Bible tells you to flee the very aperance of EVIL. Can"t you see Tony Is DR EVIL |
saved_21570
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Username: saved_21570
Post Number: 396
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 72.148.187.22
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 9:00 pm: |
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Good post Don,
It taxes the mind how someone so evil can seduce himself and others into thinking he is holy.
Don't you wonder how many others, in Tony's group, have things wrong with them? There are probably many. Things that could be corrected if they had a basic checkup and found them in time.
If they get deathly ill because of lack of care, Tony Alamo's normal tactic is to say that they have sinned and God is punishing them. |
d_eddy
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Username: d_eddy
Post Number: 174
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 64.136.27.225
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 8:22 pm: |
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Saved: yes thats very true. Yet Remember all the expensive vitimins and fresh veggies ect I use to have to send from the Grocery store. I can't
Ever remember not one time Tony keeping his word
we were told we would be given properties and given athorities like pastors over congregations
And he was lieing the whole time. just to keep some of the older brothers there. But thank God he delivered us out and Some of us have been given ministries. By God himself. |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 246
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.12.80
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 7:16 pm: |
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d_eddy,
I am starting to think folks still there for the long haul, meaning the older of the oldest brothers(Joke!!!), must be really sick, stupid, or both!!!
Welcome to America! -Land of the cults. |
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