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anchored
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Username: anchored
Post Number: 59
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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One thing we can always be assured of is if we line anyone or anything up with the Word of God and they don’t line up, then that is proof positive that they are definitely not of God.
This has been posted previously but, every once in a while, I am going to remind everyone.
The following are JUST A FEW OF THE PROPHECIES THAT TONY & SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED THAT NEVER CAME TO PASS.
Judge for yourself using the Word of the Lord. You can never go wrong.
DEUTERONOMY: 18:20-22
Vs. 20 - “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet SHALL DIE.”
Vs. 21 - “And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
Vs. 22 - “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, THAT IS THE THING WHICH THE LORD HATH NOT SPOKEN, BUT THE PROPHET HATH SPOKEN IT PRESUMPTUOUSLY: THOU SHALT NOT BE AFRAID OF HIM."
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “I am not going to die of cancer. I’m going to be alive when the Lord splits the Eastern skies.” She died.
TONY ALAMO PROPHESIED “Susie would raise from the dead.” Never came to pass.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “The babies will not live to be adults.” Never came to pass. They did live to be adults, and most now have kids of their own.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “California will fall off into the ocean.” “Get out of there RIGHT NOW!”
The last I knew California is still there.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “We will own all of Saugus and all the homes will be in our names.”
Never happened.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “The Lord gave us all of our land and no one will ever take it from us. We will have it forever.” Didn’t happen.
GO FIGURE
(Message edited by anchored on August 07, 2007) |
mixter1
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Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.19.123
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Thanks anchored,
I can recall a few ones:.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED that Russia would dominate America and the world. The Wall was down in 1989.
TONY ALAMO - ditto.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED that pope John Paul II would be the Anti-Christ.
TONY ALAMO PROPHESIED that the stars were
not that far away and that they would crash
to earth like figs. Tony(Revelator)
Tony would say "We are just 2 prophets".
Susan would say "You all know who we are". |
anchored
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Username: anchored
Post Number: 62
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Thanks Mix for giving us more examples. I figured that there were some people posting here that would remember additional times that they prophesied things that never came true. Thanks for sharing. |
worm_can_opener
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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yeah, back in about 1978, Susan would call over the intercom, so everyone in the Saugus church could all be terrorized at the same time, saying ;"and you people sit around that church, laughing like a bunch of merry fools !! you are all sitting on a keg OF DYNAMITE !! California is going into the ocean- you're going to be down there with King Neptune !!!!!" how they both loved that intercom system...first there would be that static, and then the crackling sound, then the adjusting of the volume-then, a royal rebuke !! I one time got blasted so violently, that I was wishing I could turn into a cockroach-and scamper into the woodwork !! as a matter of fact, I was wishing also that someone would come along after that with a can of "black flag" !!! she just ROASTED people she didn't like (mothers, people who questioned the motives of the pastors, and their RULES, people with no trust fund, no rich parents, etc.) yeah, the big profits of the hour ! 20 years has gone by, and California is still there (not that it always will be, scientists know that the big earthquake will eventually strike, and half of California is like a shelf over the ocean, from what I have heard. Has anyone else heard this ??> that a submarine can travel under Ca., and surface in the Salton Sea ??? if so, pray tell. |
heynow
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Username: heynow
Post Number: 132
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.65.27
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Salton Sea? I doubt it. Salton Sea is mostly like a low income dump now. Through a series of unfortunate events the sea got way too salty. I think if there was some ocean seawater flowing in (from the bottom?) this might not have happened. I saw a Salton Sea documentary a few months ago. I think the name of it was "The Curses and Pleasures of the Salton Sea" or something like that. A lot of real characters live in that area. They had some old footage from the 60's. What a wonderful place it was back then. Much different now. However I don't remember the "submarine" deal. I am sure I would have remembered it. |
wilma
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Posted From: 72.186.198.30
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Worm,
Since I was in Arkansas from 1975 on, I missed some of those horrific rebukes you all endured in California. (There were plenty of them in Ark too...just a different flavor).
You bring up a real good point though about how Susan Alamo just had it in for a lot of people and how she favored others.
I have mentioned to different people how we all had so many different experiences and perspectives at the alamo group. A few years back at an ex-member reunion when someone was mentioning the child abuse I listened to one of susan alamo's favorite women as she defended SA saying "nobody loved children like susan alamo". This lady came from a wealthy family and had a trust fund that she donated to Tony and Sue and susan would take her on shopping trips, gave her a car, bought her nice clothes, etc. She always had the nicest of the accommodations etc at the Foundation. Well, later that night I remarked to my husband, "She lived in a different Foundation than I did." Even being in the same group our experiences were completely different. And mine were not nearly as bad as some. I managed to stay under the radar a lot and used to feel terribly sorry for "you mothers" and others that Susan seemed to just have it out for. Of course none of us were exempt from her intercom rebukes where she referred to the whole congregation as "mission stiffs" because every so often people would skip a sunday morning 8am prayer meeting.
It's great to be FREE of services EVERY MORNING AT 8AM and EVERY NIGHT at 8pm plus in addition Sunday at 3pm and a 3pm service every holiday like thanksgiving and Christmas. They had no compassion and seemed to want to keep us as sleep deprived as possible. It didn't matter to them that we had little kids, or that the brothers were taking middle of the night prayer hours and pulling night watch and doing laundry. If you did sleep-in or over-slept on Sunday morning you had horrible guilt and were terrified of getting in trouble. No wonder the brothers loved getting away on tree crew, even if the work was hard.
It was such a drag to wake up Christmas morning and instead of opening presents with our kids we had to be at the 8am prayer meeting. No one wanted to be there but you were terrified not to be. Family Time was on the BOTTOM of the totem pole.
SG |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 38
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.19.123
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CLAUDIA,
I found somthing.
Like most statments I have had lodged in my
subconcious by TA&SA I had to find hard facts.
Debunk it all and start fresh
here is a link with some science http://www.livescience.com/mysteries/070220_california_fault.html
It doesn't mention submarines though. |
smitty
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Username: smitty
Post Number: 51
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 207.200.116.135
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The thing about Ca. being on a shelf was basicly 60's urban legend. Calif. sits astride two tectonic "plates" of the earts's crust. the joint between the two is the San Andreas Fault zone. The western plate is sliding south and east, and the eastern plate is sliding north and west.
On another note... You're right about diferent perspectives at the Foundation. I was able to be on Tree Crew for 5 years, and it probably saved my sanity as well as allowing me just enough freedom to start thinking for myself instead of being under Tony's thumb. |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
Post Number: 77
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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Susie,
I know who it is that you're talking about, because she had LOTS of money, and LOTS of status in the foundation. had one of the nicest houses on the ridge, a car, freedom to drive around, shop, buy all the things her family needed, etc. There diffinately were the "haves" and "have nots" so unfair. I'm going to get back with you guys after work and laundry, probably around 2:00. The most horrible memory of sleep-deprivation I have, from the entire 21 years, is when we left the production room at approximately 12:15, went home to the apts in Alma, 4 of us had to take turns for a shower, then I alternated every other night ; 4 1/2 hours of sleep, 6 hours, 4 1/2, 6, because we had to be up at the ridge for breakfast and the prayer meeting !!! I was so utterly burnt out, that I couldn't stay awake, STANDING ON MY FEET !! one of the brothers was making vegetable juice, and gave me a glass- it revived me so much, that I drink it, to this day, when I've had insomnia, or stayed up late, in order to make it through the next day. remember how giddy we used to get, from such awful hours ?? well, one night, I was cracking up over something someone said. A fuma (brother) came up to me, and said "toni wants you on the phone, he wanted to know who was laughing so loud" I played him off, even though, knowing the sick, twisted toni alamo really had been jealous, that anyone could still have JOY, OR LAUGH,OR A GOOD TIME, I replied "toni doesn't want to talk to me, just because I'm LAUGHING" I said this around 3 times, then he started getting really uptight, so I went into that room where the phones were, and toni told me, over the speaker phone, when I had said "yeah, I was laughing" (off with her HEAD !!!) he said, loudly, "you were laughing like A MEXICAN WHORE !!!!" can you beat that ?? what a joyless, dirty old pervert- so glad to have escaped from all the verbal abuse he dished out !!! thank you Jesus !! claudia |
mixter1
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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I Don't see how they put up with that CREEP!
PROPHESY:
TASA SAID ANTI-CHRIST WOULD BE A JEW OR ONE
SAYING HE IS ONE.
This has Biblical merit. I will research further
because I need a Torah. It mentions something to
the effect of one from the tribe of Dan would
oppose Messiah. |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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Smitty,
thanx for that info, concerning "the shelf of land", I didn't know what to believe, because I never had read that theory in any book. maybe it came from the alamo family, because susan DID SAY, in one of her "earthquake rebukes" that when such an astronomical mass of land goes into the ocean, there will be a tidal wave, one mile high (to finish everything off, that wasn't destroyed by the quake) and that only the Rocky Mountains would stop it from going any farther. have you ever heard THAT CONCEPT ??? |
smitty
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Posted From: 71.102.155.42
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Yeah. Momma Cass sang a song about it in the mid-sixties |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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What about me 2. Claudia gee wiz.
waa-waa. just kidding. |
anchored
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Username: anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Yeah, Momma Cass. "California Earthquake" |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Smitty whats this deal on the Catholic Church?
If it controls the world don't ya think Tony would be dead? |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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On the lighter side.
Claudia, this is probably more information than you really wanted-LOL. Thought it was kind of interesting anyway. But I still, to this day, like the Mamas and the Papas.
"California Earthquake" Mama Cass Elliot
A single from 1968
I heard they exploded the underground blast
They say its gonna happen - gonna happen at last
That's the way it appears
They tell me the faultline runs right through here
So that maybe that may be
What's gonna happen gonna happen to me
They tell me the faultline runs right through here
Atlantis will rise, Sunset Boulevard will fall
Where the beach used to be won't be nothing at all
That's the way it appears
They tell me the faultline runs right through here
So that maybe that may be
What's gonna happen gonna happen to me
They tell me the faultline runs right through here |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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Mixter,
I had every intention of thanking you for that very interesting info- those illustrations really made it clear as crystal. I have heard that when a huge earthquake happens, the ground is moving both up and down, and sideways !! sounds pretty CREEPY to me ( I have experienced about 5 earthquakes, and about 150 aftershocks, in my lifetime, I left the wonderful state of cal-i- for-ny-ay on July 13th, 1993... hopefully forever !!!! that place gives me the willies. |
heynow
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.140.65.27
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I thought it was "California Dreaming"
OR
Californy is the place you outta be
So they loaded up the truck and moved to
Beverly,,,,,, Hills that is
Swimming pools, movie stars. |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 42
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Claudia,
It's sideways mostly like Tom says
I need some advice:
O.K. I am thinking of tossing this Catholic church
garbage theory. I mean I think it is too silly.
but I need a second opinion
Heynow,
Tell me what you think about this Catholic
conspiracy stuff.
-Mix |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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Mixter,
I only know that at some point and time, toni became convinced that the catholic church was responsible for all evils that have ever been. he took those scriptures in Rev., "And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and all that were slain upon the earth." etc.translation : the catholic church was the cause of every death that ever happened. He became obsessed with info on the catholic church- had the brothers hit the libraries, and even blamed a fire at the main Los Angeles branch- as a government conspiracy, to destroy the books, exposing the catholic church, oh, woops, the "catholic institution" |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
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Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Rome's state religion was Isis even under
Dometian. 666/626 eluded to Nero Ceasar who was before Domitian; ater the fact meaning another Nero Cesar(aluding to the original). What we end up with is Rome Pre-Chistianity. Now, there is some indication of sybolic(at best) influence of Isis in- Mary Mother of God. This has nothing to do with anything. OK, at this point Tony is a Nero of sorts, agreed? I'm going to BUNK this nonsense, I guess. -> circular file |
jackrussell
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Username: jackrussell
Post Number: 60
Registered: 8-2006
Posted From: 70.127.254.118
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Catholic church is amongst so many theologies, philosohies, heresies and 'works' errancy that is just flesh, worldly, yada, yada, yada. Centrist is it, who knows. Many pentecostal 'cults' have just as many idiots running around as has the vatican, imo.
A real interesting parallel universe, not exactly but many similarities is the life and times of 'father divine' the flamboyant mentor of Jim Jones. An overview of 'father divine' can be read via this next link,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Divine#Preaching_as_God:_1912-1965 |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Thank you Jack (My brother in Christ) |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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has anyone ever seen the movie "Quo Vadis" ?? it was filmed in 1951. Peter Ustinov plays "an absolutely PERFECT toni alamo !!! he just sits around a lot, commands everyone around him, and THROWS THE MOST TONY-ALAMO-STYLE SPOILED FITS !! it's a "must see" for everyone who has ever been around him !! R.O.T.F.L. !! |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 45
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Jack.... That guy was one GONE dude.
Good lord of Creation!!! |
worm_can_opener
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Username: worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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LOL- I forgot to mention- Peter Ustinov played NERO in that movie. worm |
floridian
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Username: floridian
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Posted From: 74.170.109.133
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Yeah,thats right,Susan alamo also said,repent or perish,and why die when there is life in Christ,or how about when she prayed Lord please protect the brothers and sisters,yeah thats right do you remember that time she was crying in the prayer room,yeah that Susan alamo right,yeah thats right that Susan alamo never said when california would drop,yeah she has gone on yeah lets really talk about her. |
modesto
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Username: modesto
Post Number: 160
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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Please,everyone realize,this is Tony Alamo himself we're talking to here. regarding "Floridian" |
anchored
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Username: anchored
Post Number: 69
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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“California will fall off into the ocean.” “Get out of there RIGHT NOW!”
Excuse me but when someone says "RIGHT NOW" that pretty much qualifies for IMMEDIATELY. That would've had to have been sometime before 1982 since that's when she died. Facts are facts and she did call herself a prophet and she did prophesy many things which never came to pass and the Word is very clear about that.
She also was very cruel to the body of Christ on many numerous occasions. Just because she has "gone on" doesn't change the fact that lots of people were spiritually damaged by her. The people here are working through a lot of issues and sometimes it involves posting the truth about Tony and Susan Alamo and what they went through because of their gross mistreatment and exploitation of the Body of Christ.
You obviously have her on a pedestal and don't want anything bad said about her. There are many posting here who have want to get things out in the open, the hurts they have been harboring for years. Do you want them to refrain from telling the truth just because she's gone?
I don't think that would help them to heal and have any closure to the abusive past. |
modesto
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Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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Anchored.
Good man,amen. |
modesto
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Username: modesto
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Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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Anchored,
Good man,amen. |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 46
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Modesto,
Glad to have you. It seems that Tony
may have the demented gene of a sort of mini-
ceasar. To be more specific a little Nero.
What do you think? This regards the burial of
the Catholic Church CONSPIRACY!!!
I hear TA claimed the Catholics(who else) started to old L.A. Library fire.
I'm bunking(trashing) this Catholic thing.
Feedback............ |
modesto
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Username: modesto
Post Number: 163
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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Everyone please realize this is Tony Alamo himself we're talking to here.He calls himself " Floridian" |
modesto
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Username: modesto
Post Number: 164
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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Mixter,
You're words confuse me.I can't understand you.Talk to me with more direct words or else contact me so we can speak privately.
John |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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floridan,
Did you say the Catholics set fire to the downtown L.A. library?
hmmmm... |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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John, if you're right, he's even more warped than i thought. Keep in mind though, most of the Tony worshippers use those same TA trademark phrases just like their daddy. That sick puppy is such a hypocrite. I have heard that he badmouthed Susie, himself, on many occasions and that one time he even said she is in hell. Don't know for sure if that's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if had said that about her.
I do know for a fact though that right here on factnet he has badmouthed saints who have gone on to be with the Lord and I know even at the cult at one brother's funeral he went so far as to say he was in hell. What a classic case of hypocrisy. He's such a warped scum bucket.
Later, i've got catch some zzzzzzzzzz's. God Bless!
(Message edited by anchored on August 08, 2007) |
mixter1
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Post Number: 48
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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John,
Is this Catholic conspiracy thing a bunch
of foolishness? Tony stands by it.
I think it is nuts.
What do you think? |
modesto
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Username: modesto
Post Number: 165
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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Mixter,
I need to speak to you prfivately. |
mixter1
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Username: mixter1
Post Number: 49
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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OK,
I am at: mixter37@sbcglobal.net |
modesto
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Username: modesto
Post Number: 166
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 70.134.108.143
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George,
I think we agree,but I wouldn't think it would hurt for us to speak privately either.
John |
anchored
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Username: anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Fine with me John. what's your address? I think you put it up at one point. I'll look for it.
By the way, even if we don't completely agree, I'm not into cutting people off just because we don't agree on everything. That would be another TA and his crew's modus operandi.
Mac
(Message edited by anchored on August 09, 2007) |
anchored
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Username: anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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I think we need to be careful about jumping to conclusions about new posters actually being TA. Just because they have that demeanor and support him doesn't necessarily mean that they are him. I think TA's style is unmistakeable.
My 2 cents. |
no_stoppin_me
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Username: no_stoppin_me
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Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 72.242.140.218
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Why would TA get on here himself and post anything when he has his minions to do it? Has he ever done anything on his own??? No, he gives orders and then lets them take the fall for it. Plus, isn't he legally blind?
Remember when he would say "I can make $1,000 a day with my eyes closed, what are "you people" doing?"
Isn't it great to be free?? |
anchored
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Username: anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Well yeah, it's obvious that he's never sat at the keyboard himself. What I meant by "new posters actually being TA" is TA dictating posts to his slaves. And we know that's happened plenty of times. |
mixter1
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Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Morning Anchored & Modesto,
Anchored I agree about jumping to conclusions.
A closer look at floridan indicate he has been spying on us. He alludes(TA style) to possible discussions I & Smitty have had with Modesto on
a secular writer. Floridan - 'n' florida where
TA(Frog) is known to hide. There is some logic to this snap conclusion. I had some fun with it.
IMPORTANT:
I think we should know who each other is.
Anchored please you and Modesto email me so
we know one another: mixter37@sbcglobal.net
-Mix |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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I was in the Saugus "church" when news came of Greg Howard's death. This was just awful-we had all loved Greg- he was so NORMAL, and also had a great sense of humor. Well, we were all told by mr.profit (hah !! PUHLEESE !!) that he saw a vision of Greg. The white robe he was supposed to be wearing, was BROWN, because of having sin on his soul. Martin was told to "preach the funeral" and tell everyone, over the pulpit, that his brother had gone to hell. During the funeral, who comes storming in, through the double doors, but the FALSE PROPHET, heading for the pulpit, taking the place of Martin, up there, saying ;"the Lord has spoken to me, and told me that Greg just barely made it into heaven !!" Martin became so stressed over this whole scenario, that he RAN DOWN THE SIERRA HIGHWAY !!! this is in response to your post (11:07) Aug. 8th, Anchored |
anchored
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What a totally sick scenario!!!
Yeah, well then can you imagine what color the PERV'S robe will be??? Blacker than coal!
Greg was a great brother. He was always so cheerful and happy to be saved, such a great sense of humor. Toe-knee hated anyone who audibly expressed their joy in the Lord in laughter because he is such a miserable outfit inside. We all loved Happy Howey. He was washed in the Blood when he was slaving away on his job to make finances for that PERVERT while THAT PERV was sitting on his arse in some air-conditioned house eating lavish food and lusting his heart out. He's got some nerve to be telling someone else that they have sin on their soul.
Anything that PERVERTED SHEEP IN WOLF'S CLOTHING, SCATTERER OF THE LORD'S SHEEP, DESTROYER OF SOULS Tony Alamo, would have to say about any precious brother or sister in Christ is not to be regarded.
The Lord has spoken to me too (John Chapter 10) and told me that He is the Shepherd of the Sheep and gave His llfe for the Sheep and careth for them. He told me that Tony Alamo is an hireling, a wolf that scattereth and devoureth the Sheep and they flee from him. |
mixter1
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Claudia,
That stuff is nuts. I'm convinced little Nero
wanted everone at a distance from each other.
Did Martin come back or did he finally leave the church?
-Mix |
mixter1
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Mac, Claudia,
I feel so cheated. Living all those years with
that fear that caused nausea. They slandered us
in each other eyes. Wished we had a coup to the highest level. You don't mess with people that way
without payback. MAN!!!!!!
-Mix |
heynow
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Mixter, Getting back with you on the catholic church. I am not sure if you have heard of Keith Green. Anyhow he wrote a series of gospel tracts about the catholic church doctrine and compared it to the Bible. According to Keith Green the major difference is transubstantiation. Long word I know. However this is what the catholic doctrine is built on. If you look at the Bible you can tell transubstantiation is unscriptual.
Regarding Greg H. I believe Greg made it to heaven. I saw him a few minutes after he died. The "brown robe" prophecy was from a guy living at the foundation named Cass Kendrick, not tony. My opinion (everyone has an opinion) is the brown robe prophesy was hogwash. However it seemed tony believed it.
On the issue of tony and the keyboard. I don't recall seeing tony at any keyboard at all. |
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AMEN Mix,
Oh, he'll get paid back all right. When payback time does arrive for him, he'll wish it WAS a coup of of the highest level compared to what the Lord will do, i.e., the millstone that will be around his neck. We can all relate to the "feeling cheated" part too, Mix. Just always remember, the time that we did spend there we will be blessed for because we did it unto the Lord. Also, we did have some good times when they weren't around even though that constant fear of T&S was always hovering around us. I look at it this way. I met some wonderful people who really did and, still do, love the Lord. Eternal friends. Those are some of my most precious memories. God Bless Mix! |
anchored
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Yeah heynow, that's what I said, "he's never sat at the keyboard himself." I doubt if he ever knew how to type. He's always had slaves to do all of his work. |
worm_can_opener
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Mixter- it wasn't long before Martin left the "church". it is very apparent that the perv threw his soul worm |
worm_can_opener
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heynow-
I distinctly remember toni telling us, several times, that the Lord told him (toni) that Greg went up before the judgment bar wearing a brown robe. did toni actually get that from Cass Kendrick ?? that name rings a bell, but I do not remember that brother at all. So this Cass Kendrick was the one one actually saw a vision ?! or was he trying to look supernatural, and SAID he saw a vision ?? cornfused over this.
worm |
anchored
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Mix,
Dave and I have talked with Martin since he left. He is very happily married to a beautiful lady. They have a very successful business. Martin built the house they live in. The last time I talked with Martin he was still healing, but he still loves the Lord and sounded very happy and blessed. |
worm_can_opener
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Anchored,
that's very good news !!! toni was telling people that Martin was a witch, after he left. Mary Jane used to wake up screaming, in the first days after he left. Even Gina would tell her, when she would be going through it, (because she loved & missed Martin) to "be quiet, he's a witch !!"(polly-parroting toni). glad that he's happy and prosperous !!! glad for EVERYONE one has gotten out of the perv's evil cluthes. worm |
floridian
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Claudia Kellogg,Greg Howard is in Heaven,Al Commings is in Heaven,Mr Larisen is in Heaven,Marelia,Romero and I will be here praying you make it also. All you people. |
mixter1
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Oh MAN!!!!!,
That is fantastic! Martin came out heroic.
If he didn't run I can imagine him slapping
TA around like the dog that needs it,
with rubber gloves of course.
Live forever, That's intense!
-Mix |
anchored
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Worm,
I'd never heard that before. THAT PREACHING PEDOPHILE OF A PERVERT had a name for everyone whose soul he tried to destroy. That was part of his modus operandi, to conquer and oppress and then a final blow to the soul. Some "pastor" he was/is. Why am I not surprised?
At a time when Martin needed comforting the most, losing his brother whom he dearly loved, when he needed support and uplifting and encouragment the most, the enemy of our soul (via the stinking vile flesh of Tony Asslamo) came in for the kill. That figures. Why am I not surprised?
I'm glad you told us about that worm. It's just one more example of how much he really loves souls - NOT!
I get so disgusted when Tony Alamo's worshippers come in here and say how much he loves souls and he's preaching his crap to the whole world and he appoints and calls himself the "world pastor." I've got a better name for him "World Sheep Scatterer and Destroyer."
If the world knew about some of these shenanigans he's pulled in the past like the bizarre lunacy at Greg's funeral, they'd flee just like we did.
Hopefully, the whole world will eventually find out about this rogue of souls, Tony Alamo. I know we're trying to get the word out there. |
heynow
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Can opener, The "brown robe" vision originated from Cass Kendrick. Absolutely positively. NOT tony. It seemed tony believed it because he talked about it so much. At first tony would acknowedge the vision was from cass and tony would mention cass kendrick's name when speaking about it. I guess over the years when tony would mention it, folks thought tony had the vision (or dream or whatever). The brown robe vision was Cass Kendrick's "baby" I assure you. Like I mentioned previously, I think the brown robe vision is total hogwash. Just my opinion.
A little more. Cass left the foundation not long after that (I was out before him). A few years later I saw Cass. If I remember correctly he was homeless. We talked for a while and of course I asked him about his "vision". He had to think a minute but, came up with the same brown robe story. Go figure. I am still not buying it. |
worm_can_opener
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heynow,
I have had many deep dreams, and definate answers from the Lord, down through the 37 years (today) all the glory to God, for keeping me !! it's nothing that we could ever do on our own, that's for sure !! but have NEVER had a vision from God. From what I have heard, it's more of a reality than what you see with your eyes !! wouldn't Cass Kendrick remember such an awesome experience ??? thanx for the correction, though. worm |
worm_can_opener
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heynow- just want to add this. obviously (since you were there when Greg died) you KNOW that Cass Kendrick was the one who said he had the "brown robe vision", but what I think, is that toe-knee used that, in order to be able to say ;"the LORD told me that Greg went to hell"what do you think ? worm |
worm_can_opener
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floridian-
trying to bait me, by calling me Claudia Kellogg ?? (hah, better try some other avenue) that hasn't been my name since Aug.24,1985. I'm now HAPPILY MARRIED, at last, to someone who loves me very much. And why would I be doubting that the brothers and sisters who have gone on to be forever with the Lord, didn't go to heaven ?? that's just your own judgmental mentality, whoever you are. Maurillia was my friend.our kids were (and are) almost the same age. They still communicate. Gary Larison was a GOOD GUY, and would be out there with the brothers, working hard, even when he had a 105 degree fever.Even would be working on jobs, having stomach cancer !! I never heard Al Cummins say a cross word, in all the years I knew him. And he LOVED Lynda's kids, also. Lynda told me, once, that she had said to Al, "these kids can LEAVE, for all I care !!" and Al's reply was " YOU can LEAVE !!, I'm not giving up on these kids !!" Al was just loaded to capacity with the LORD, and holy boldness!! I remember when a pretty big dude came into the Alamo store, calling Al "boy", Al went up to him, saying "hey, listen, I'm not your BOY !!" I have always admired that so much, he was one good testimony !! ( I sure have no respect for the swishy, scared WIMPS, shaking in their shoes, with the fear of toe-knee, who were guarding the "rapingmobile" for him ) !!! they are "guilty by association", as the title of the tract says !! Greg Howard was the most joyful of all the brothers- made me laugh so hard (oh oh, what will toni think- nobody was supposed to be joyful or LAUGH ! I got in trouble for that, once...oh well, it's too late now, I probably should have been SMITEN, RIGHT ???(OFF with her head, she LAUGHED !!!!) one last thing, thank you for your prayers, that you care so much that I make it into heaven. we need all the prayer that we can get, don't we ?? after all, the righteous will SCARCELY BE SAVED !! that IS a fearful warning. worm |
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While we're speaking of people who are in Heaven, I'm going to add one more. Dave Koelzer is in Heaven. He ran his race and is now enjoying all of his rewards. The Lord showed me he's definitely there walking the streets of gold and rejoicing with the Savior and he's waiting for all of us to join him. God Bless you all!
Cares all past! Home at last! Ever to Rejoice!
(Message edited by anchored on August 10, 2007) |
mixter1
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Hi Mac,
Glade to hear that about Dave. That man really
must have endured.
I did an apologizing to AanB for TA. The real
story of TA&SA is: They really tried to make it
in Hollywood but just did'nt. Both knew what it was like to have deeply failed. Tony poor and inadequate finds Christ and becomes this mess.
I never believed That Promo man story. But TA SPUN THIS BIG YARN. He was just a wanna be.
But he's a nobody.
-Mix |
heynow
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Can Opener, tony and Greg Howard had some disagreements for a few years before Greg died. It would be a little lengthy to spell it out here. Hence when Greg died tony tried to make seem he(tony) was "validated". I think you understand. Cass and Greg got into a slight argument (I was there) the night prior to Greg's death. So, you see these two people had something against Greg. These are some objective reasons why I don't believe the vision. |
wilma
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Tony also claimed that he had prophesied that Greg Howard was going to die when he did. I forget the whole scenario but supposedly (according to Tony) Greg asked to go work at the pig farm instead of taking care of baby Christians (I'm sure Greg has another side to that story). and then their was the big offense about Greg having a cup of coffee before taking his middle of the night prayer hour (a big sin in tony's eyes at the time because he said it was such a bad testimony to the BC's). Anyway, in the rebuke tony mentions IN A VERY GENERAL WAY, PUTTING NO TIME FRAME ON IT "young man, do you know you're going to die?" DUH, that's a no-brainer...everyone is going to die. After Greg's death Tony would use the tape of that message to try to scare people into submission and convince them that he was hearing from God. Even when I heard the tape back then I thought to myself, "well of course, we're all gonna die at some time or another".
IT is just another example of how heartless and cruel Tony was to people. When Martin really needed a pastor to show mercy and compassion towards him (since his brother just had a horrible accident, falling off a roof and dying) Tony was tormenting him. So typical of tony alamo.
tony used to make me pull that tape and play it for people frequently as proof of how prophetic he was...baloney!
he and sue were always trying to scare us to keep us toiling for them.
He specifically threatened Dorothy C that she was going to die within a year and she is alive and well 14 years later. He threatened Tami and Jody with SURE death within a short time frame and they are both doing quite well too.
He is so full of baloney! it just amazes me that we were ever so afraid of him.
sg |
worm_can_opener
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susie- YES ! i was THERE for toni's speech about Greg & the pig farm- what it all boiled down to, was that toni couldn't stand it, that Greg chose to go there, instead of watching the B.C.'s for one day, probably. maybe Greg just needed a break, sheeesh ! when I was out in saugus from 1984- around 1988 (?) I was babysitting in the nursery there, almost 24 hours a day. I started my day by running home (FROM the nursery) for 15 minutes to shower, then went straight back to the nursery, where I watched 3 babies in diapers, 3 being potty-trained, and 11 others. Their mothers worked at # 7 (toe-knee's house @ that time) they did not pick up their children when they got off work, so I spent every night there (what else COULD I do, just boogaloo to my house, and leave them all alone ??) one other person was there with me, during the day, but wouldn't change diapers at all, so there I was. they all designed this big report, and gave it to toni, and I got sent over to his house, where they were all saying I didn't want to babysit their kids. toni said that the LORD wanted me there, babysitting, that I was REBELLIOUS,and that rebellion was as the sin of witchcraft, and that until I resigned myself to babysitting, I would just keep on being their babysitter. Then, apparently for the entertainment of the sisters with the report, he made me call myself a witch !!!! now we see the real witch, unmasked. LOL |
heynow
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LOL Yep I had a brother get upset and start this "YOUR GONNA DIE, GOD IS GONNA TAKE YOUR LIFE" routine with me (I wonder where he got that from? Hmmm). Sometimes I feel like Rocky Balboa and I say, "I'M STILL HEAH"
Hah ha By the grace of God I think I got at least another 30 years. |
brother_d
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floridian said, "do you remember that time she was crying in the prayer room,yeah that Susan alamo right,yeah thats right"
That may have been one time, crying those crocodile tears...but I also remember the countless times she made others cry, both because of her (her meanness)and for her (their charity). She could be compassionate when it was convenient, but true compassion is not just when it suits you. Love suffereth long and is kind... |
worm_can_opener
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brother_d
that post deserves a STANDING OVATION ! I, myself was there for 21 years, and NEVER saw either one of them in any prayer-room !! I don't have a clue as to who you are, but if you were there around 1970-71, you'll remember those "half-circle couches" that were in the sanctuary. by 1972, they would have been replaced. Some of the sisters used to play their violins, sitting on those, during services. One day, the perv was so obviously asleep,one afternoon, in a half-circle position. I don't remember the exact scenario, but someone commented to toni, when he woke up, maybe that they were sorry for waking him, not sure. He went on about how he was NOT ASLEEP, but deep in prayer, and that none of us had learned how to contend, yet, lying perfectly still !! he had been breathing super slow, you could just tell he had been sound asleep (why the guilt complex ?? people sleep !) (that's NOT to say he never did pray, only the LORD knows that kind of stuff. Maybe Susan Alamo was mad at him, and he had to find another place to nap ?? hmmmmm |
mixter1
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Say
Remember how Susan denied that she was smoking?
Well that was supposed to be an accusation by
Don and Kathy W. WELL IT WAS TRUE.
WELL SHE DID SMOKE!!!! I COULD SMELL IT ON HER
BREATH. SHE MUST HAVE BEEN ON SOME HEAVY PAIN
KILLERS ALSO. SHE NEEDED THEM AFTER ALL.
whew that felt better. |
mixter1
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Claudia,
This is far back in time: say 1974. I met your
brother and I am wondering how he is? He used
to be cheerful and I liked talking to you both.
What does he think of the foundation now?
-Mix |
worm_can_opener
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mixter 1,
the last time i saw curt, was susan alamo's wake. he had returned to the foundation, but only for a short time. we lost track of each other, because when he left the final time, he was positive that he could always contact me there. i got out of there ten years later. one thing that saddens me, is how messed up he became, because of Viet-nam. he was never again the same. claudia |
floridian
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Proof regarding Souls,Jesus christ came that we might have life and that we might have it more abundantly. Today is another day that I have the chance to witness,to fellowship with other Brothers and Sisters,to read,pray,to help lift someone up,to preach,to reprove,yes I am given this day,and what will I do with this day? I was given this day that I may give it to someone else. Most of you people gave many many many days to someone else that they also might have life. Do not let the days you are given to give be kept to yourselves. Jesus Christ gave the day that we would have a way. No looking back |
mixter1
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Claudia,
I hope the lord brings Curt around. So, this may well happen. I am happy to hear you are married.
Life was to crazy there. You were in that place much longer that I was. I am hearing a history that is just terrible. That place is perhaps, in fact dying. Let's just say it's dead already. All I care about are the ones who are sincere who feel they have to stay and don't have an alternative. But if they desire to leave they will feel they just have to. It will get to the point that they can't stand it and do what we did. This forum is a blessing. I wonder if they still go into hospitals?
-Mix |
anchored
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floridian says -
"Most of you people gave many many many days to someone else that they also might have life. Do not let the days you are given to give be kept to yourselves."
So what's your point in your little "sermonette" above??? AND WHO ARE YOU??? WE SAY WHO WE ARE, BUT YOU REMAIN IN THE DARK SHADOWS, O SUBTLE ONE! How are we supposed to fellowship with you, as you say in your preaching above, if we don't know who you are?
And, what makes you think "WE PEOPLE" keep our days to ourselves? Very presumptuous. You don't know any of us, or what we do with our daily lives, how many souls we witness to, or how much we read, pray, fellowhip, etc.
Do you call dwelling in that cult, if indeed that is where you dwell (as you insinuated in another post) under THAT LYING, MANIPULATING, OPPRESSING, RAPING PEDOPHILE PERVERT, FALSE PROPHET having "life more abundantly?"
You, like the rest of the Tony Alamo worshippers, ignore the issues that are presented to you. I have addressed the issue you have presented "Proof regarding Souls" now how about addressing the issue of Proof Regarding False Prophets. What about all the prophesies that never came true? Huh? Still waiting for an answer on that! |
anchored
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DEUTERONOMY: 18:20-22
Vs. 20 - “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet SHALL DIE.”
Vs. 21 - “And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
Vs. 22 - “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, THAT IS THE THING WHICH THE LORD HATH NOT SPOKEN, BUT THE PROPHET HATH SPOKEN IT PRESUMPTUOUSLY: THOU SHALT NOT BE AFRAID OF HIM."
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “I am not going to die of cancer. I’m going to be alive when the Lord splits the Eastern skies.” She died.
TONY ALAMO PROPHESIED “Susie would raise from the dead.” Never came to pass.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “The babies will not live to be adults.” Never came to pass. They did live to be adults, and most now have kids of their own.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “California will fall off into the ocean.” “Get out of there RIGHT NOW!”
The last I knew California is still there.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “We will own all of Saugus and all the homes will be in our names.”
Never happened.
SUSAN ALAMO PROPHESIED “The Lord gave us all of our land and no one will ever take it from us. We will have it forever.” Didn’t happen. |
brother_d
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THE ALAMO - a place of dry bones ruled over by an old troll. |
anchored
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floridian posted the following on Friday, Aug. 10, 2007 at 9:54 pm
"we at the church or at least most of us want to see souls get saved." |
heynow
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Claudia, Curt always seemed positive. I remember him talking about his name. "My name is Curtis Kellogg." "When I say it, some people think I said courtesy catalog." "No, I am not giving away catalogs, my name is Curtis Kellogg." |
jackrussell
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Fall of 1970, N. Crescent Heights, Sunday service the upper room not far from the stairs, the place was packed, Susie Q was preaching, Ooouuuuii! My ear was to the floor, to try to absorb every word of this mighty woman of God! The prophesy of the day was, along with the time is short, was that Nassar of Egypt was on his way out and the next guy would be 'The Very Bad Guy!' As in The False Prophet or Antichrist or something like that. Well it happened to be Sadat, a principal at Camp David and he was assasinated for his moderation years ago. Wrong again, what was she smokin' anyway? |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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I remember that summit of enlightenment. Sedat
the man. Well some people missed that morsel. To name one was good old storm'en Norman. He was saying 'Sadat my man, yeah Sadat'. If Norman was confident, HEY that's an endorsement. Susan did appear in a bad mood at that time. In the realm of Bible belt profits-whoops!! I mean prophets. When ya miss one like that you go down hard. She was mad at something then. Darn Sue,... sorry. That brings to mind an encounter with Norman near the beach at Santa Monica. They were dressed in those 'Members Only' jackets(old ones). A blast from the past, Right? Noel was going on about THE POPE is in the TEMPLE!!! - WHAT!!! OH NO!!!-This has all the earmarks of a vintage TONY A-LIMMO PROPHESY!!!). We know A DUDE profanes the temple by means of abominating it(Antiochus did that with a little pig). Except the Pope(JP2) is in the temple that Herod built(TIME LIFE picture). The Temple of Solomon(ruins) sits at the backdoor(or under it rather) of the Dome of The rock, which is Allah's turf. -Say Tones???, The Israelis won't let you near the place. Hey TONES!!! JP2 been taking a dirt nap over 2 years. Whats up with that??? Now, The abomination that maketh desolate(Dan 11:31) is also spoken of by Christ(Mat 24:15 & Mar 13:14). This is serious business which I don't mean to make light of at all. I am reading it. I realize that these verses are way above TA. Read them if you don't beleave me. TonE please don't go to Ireal because you're are a FREEK!!! The Israelis won't let him in hopefully. They have a no fanatcs policy. |
floridian
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Posted From: 74.170.109.133
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I am very sorry anchored that you took it all wrong,very sorry.when I said we at the church or at least most of us,I say it knowing that their is still chaff.I never said that anyone was keeping the day to themselves nor did I say anyone was not doing the work of a christian. I believe anchore that you should think a little before you assume and make such angry replies,hey I have replied back in anger many times before and was out of line and I am sorry for those times of stupidity. Be angry anchored and sin not.If you are out doing the work of Father God that is good. please do it and keep that anger out of your boosom. Anchored and all you others God really does love you,God loves you so much that he gave you his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in should not perish. |
anchored
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Post Number: 87
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Floridian,
Hahaha, you really make me laugh. Does your Worldly Pastor, Tony Alamo, know you are posting about God's love? Does he know you are mentioning the word love in the same sentence with God? Methinks you are in for a severe tongue lashing from the World Pervert Pedophile, himself.
Sorry to disappoint you flor, there is no anger in my bosom. The only thing that's in my bosom is the joy of the Lord and peace that passeth all understanding. And, again, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm afraid God, himself, beat you to the draw on showing me that He really loves me. He showed me that right after I left the t&s alamo hate factory.
By the way, part of my joy is that God delivered me from the Tony Alamo cult of which you have admitted you are a part of by saying "we at the church." So that means you are in agreement with all of Tony Alamo's false doctrine and are partaker of all his ungodly abominable atrocities and ungodly deeds.
We can see through ya flor. So you can cut with the phony righteous act now and go back into regular Tony Alamo worshipper mode. You're such a nimrod. You're nothing but a mini variation on a theme of Tony Alamo, the Great Manipulator.
No I'm not angry, I'm just asking you a few questions and pointing out your phoniness. Your phony self-righteous facade. So quit trying to shift the focus from Tony Alamo to us, you Tony defender.
"Be angry and sin not" you say? Gimme a break! How can you speak of sin to anyone? Your leader, Tony Alamo is the King of sin. You and, the one you defend and all of you "we at the church" people are guilty by association.
Speaking of those questions regarding the unfulfilled prophecies of false prophets, the reason you keep skirting the issue is because you don't have a good answer. The Word of God is clear about self-proclaimed prophets and their false prophesies. Once again, stop ignoring and read and learn about false prophets and how we can discern them.
Deuteronomy 18:20-22. |
floridian
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Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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I am sorry you feel that way,I want it to be known to you anchored that I am very honest and sincere in my speach with you and everyone else,and please remember,this is no joke,God knows my heart and I know that it is desperately wicked,so out of the abudance of my heart my mouth says to you that I really do not want you to be offended at me and I would really appreciate true fellowship with you,and I really think that you are trying to be the best careing christian you can.; Be careful how you mock,be real careful,and if you feel that I am a phoney,do not accept that feeling,it is not of the Lord.I am of aged to warn you. I would rather reason with you. Blessed are the peace makers. |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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So, who are you? It's obvious by now that you are ashamed to say who you are. How can we have "true fellowship" with someone that is ashamed to say who they are???
Why do you come in here and preach to us? Most of us are all saved and living Christian lives. So go preach somewhere else already!
This message board isn't about you, Flo, nor is it about Alan B. It's about Tony Alamo. This is about exposing the The Sexual Predator & Liar Tony Alamo. The Raping Pedophile, Child beating/abusing, Sheep fleecing, Exploiter of Innocent Souls, Tony Alamo. Also, it's about sharing with each other, and the world, testimonies of how God delivered us from Tony Alamo's cult.
You are still part of his cult.
Please, go get your own forum if you want to preach. |
raining
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Posted From: 68.127.113.121
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Anchored - my exact thoughts about floridian.
Who are you? Go get your own forum if you want to preach. |
floridian
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Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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Anyone who feels that they do not need preached to or does not need to edify one another, most of the time needs to regroup their thoughts,feel free to share the word of God to me or preach to me,I really loved the reading groups,the wittnessing together,the many times I heard a brother or sister say something to me that I already knew,yet it was a wonderful refreshing to me. I am very proud of who I am ,when I die it will be presious in the eyes of my Lord and Savior and in no way at all do I deserve that thought.I am a sinner saved by His Grace,can you not know who I am by my speech? I am a christian. do you really want me to leave? we have read together and prayed together,sweated together,you can say that it is not about alanb,I just brought to your attention that his soul needs careing for,Please remember anchored your first love. |
anchored
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Post Number: 89
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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There you go again, you just cannot see the forest for the trees, can you? You're just missing the whole point, please!
How do you know if I forgotten my first love? How do you know anything about me? You don't, and you're not going to know either until you tell who you are.
When you say "we at the church" are you talking about the Alamo Foundation? Are you affiliated with them? Just a yes or no would be good.
The bottom line here with you is you don't really want to fellowship, what you really want to do here is take the light and focus off of Tony Alamo. |
wilma
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Posted From: 72.186.198.30
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Floridian,
You are a fanatic and a lunatic. If people I know, who were not Christians, heard you rant on like you do on this message board they would never want to be a Christian. They would run the other way. Can you hear us?? You are a FANATIC! You are just parroting words that have no real meaning. You don't hear us and refuse to answer questions that are put to you about how you can claim to be a follower of Jesus and yet you defend a raping, child abuser, pedophile like Tony Alamo.
Repent or perish.
SG |
raining
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Posted From: 69.106.188.87
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Floridian posted, "I would really appreciate true fellowship with you."
Here some true fellowship for you!
Read this article out of the LA Times, where Tony Alamo LIES to the court and says he does not know where Susie's body was at.
Los Angeles Times/February 20, 1997
By James Ricci
Cult Leader Loses Ruling Over Dead Wife's Body
The Arkansas Court of Appeals on Wednesday dismissed on a technicality religious cult leader Tony Alamo's appeal of an order requiring him to produce the missing body of his long-dead wife for burial.
The body of Susan Alamo, who died of cancer in 1982, disappeared from a Dyer, Arkansas mausoleum owned by the cult in 1991, shortly after federal authorities moved to seize church assets for tax irregularities.
In 1995, a lower court found that Alamo was responsible for the theft of Susan Alamo's remains. The couple had built a religious cult and business empire from a storefront effort to reclaim drug users and teenage runaways in Hollywood during the 1960s.
The court ordered Alamo to return the body so its identity can be verified by an Arkansas medical examiner prior to a "proper and legal entombment."
The court order resulted from a suit brought by the dead woman's daughter, former cult member Christhiaon Coie of Reseda. It ordered Alamo, who is nearing the end of a six-year federal sentence for tax evasion, to produce the body or be jailed for contempt of court upon his expected release from federal prison in Texarkana, Tex.
"I'm just so happy today," Coie said Wednesday. "He had no right to do anything like this. This is so perverse. So insane."
Alamo, a flamboyant evangelist who acted as his own attorney on the appeal, has alternately confirmed and denied he knows the whereabouts of the body.
Coie's lawyer, Charles Karr of Fort Smith, Ark., said the appeals court threw out Alamo's appeal because it wasn't filed in a timely manner. He said decisions of the appeals court are rarely reviewed by the Arkansas Supreme Court.
Karr said he wouldn't be surprised if Alamo approached the high court nonetheless. "That would be his next step if he wants to take another one, and, knowing him, he probably will |
raining
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Post Number: 75
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Posted From: 69.106.188.87
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Floridian posted, "I would really appreciate true fellowship with you."
Here some more true fellowship for you!
Whatsoever things are true - think on these things!
Here’s proof Tony Alamo is a liar!
Read this article from the LA TIMES - Tony has Susie's body returned so he can stay out of jail!
The Associated Press/August 11, 1998
Susan Alamo entombed in Tulsa
Van Buren, Arkansas -- Susan Alamo's remains were placed in a crypt in Tulsa, putting to rest a years-long fight over the body.
Mrs. Alamo, the wife of evangelist Tony Alamo, died of cancer in 1982. She was entombed Monday.
In February 1991, Alamo ordered his followers to bring along his wife's body when they evacuated the Tony and Susan Alamo Christian Foundation compound in Crawford County. The compound was about to be raided by federal marshals in the wake of a civil lawsuit against Alamo.
Alamo was ultimately arrested on tax-related charges and was convicted in 1994. He is completing a six-year federal sentence, now in a halfway house in Texarkana. His scheduled Dec. 8 release would have been in jeopardy had the body not been returned.
Alamo was ordered in 1995 to return the body. The Chancery Court judge stipulated that if Alamo did not produce the body, he would be sent to the local jail upon his release from federal custody.
Alamo agreed last month to deliver the corpse. His followers from the Alamo Foundation brought the body in a sealed casket to a Van Buren funeral home on July 23. Last week, state medical examiners in Little Rock, where the corpse was subsequently transported, affirmed the body was indeed that of Mrs. Alamo, clearing the way for the burial.
The court order to deliver the body came when Christihaon Coie of Los Angeles, Mrs. Alamo's daughter, went to court because she wanted to bury her mother near relatives in Van Buren. However, she said she would not contest a previous order releasing the body to Alamo for suitable burial following its identification.
A Nashville dentist who had made a bridge for Susan Alamo identified his work, and Circuit-Chancery Judge Floyd Rogers accepted the identification.
Mrs. Alamo's body was returned to Van Buren on Thursday. |
floridian
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Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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I am very sorry wilma and anchored that you feel that way.anchored I never said that you forgot. I will remind myself of the same Love that I will not forget and anyone else thats wants to remind me of keeping the commandments,please do so,for a true Christian is their brothers and sisters keeper. You know freinds that some may call it ranting, the Bible calls it,Proverbs 11:25,The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
I want to drink and I do drink of the Living Waters myself. |
raining
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Posted From: 69.106.188.87
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Whatsoever things are true- think on these things.
Here is some truth for you to drink down!
Posted on Factnet - Friday, October 28, 2005 - Katrina
Here is what I know regarding Tony Alamo: I came to the foundation a long time ago and I really got saved and filled with the Holy Spirit and dedicated my life to serving the Lord Jesus Christ. Throughout the years I kept my eyes glued on God and minded my own business. To make a long story short, about 10 years ago, during the time when Tony Alamo was in prison he had asked if my 12 year old daughter, Katrina could come and stay at his house to be a companion to his stepdaughter, Rebecca, who also had been a good friend to my daughter. They were to be home schooled together. It sounded fine to my daughter and me.
At first I heard regularly from my daughter but after awhile I stopped being contacted. This started to really bother me so I told Tony I wanted her back home. Of course Tony rebuked me and told me I was interfering with God's will. Much to my relief my daughter was sent home shortly after the rebuke from Tony Alamo.
After Katrina returned home I was told by her the most horrifying story I had ever heard about Tony Alamo. The perverted things he was doing and the appalling things that he had poisoned my daughter with.
When she would go to the prison along with other little girls, ages ranging anywhere from 11 years to 17 years, Tony would not talk to them about the Bible, like I would expect, but rather Tony Alamo would tell them that they were to be his wives...some already were!! He warned them not to tell their parents, because they wouldn’t understand and may cause a scene!
Katrina was given explicit details of everything from oral sex, how Tony and his other little-girl wives were going to have threesomes once he was out of prison, he also bragged about the (supposed) size of his penis, and many other disgusting pornographic subjects that would repel any decent adult. This little girl who never watched TV or heard a cuss word was freaked out by the things “Papa Tony” told her. Katrina would tell me how, when in the prison visiting room, the girls would take turns being shields and keeping their eyes open for the guards while Tony would reach his dirty, perverted hands up the girls blouses, etc!
Needless, to say I was sickened beyond description upon learning these sordid details and moved fast and far away from that horrid place very soon afterwards. I don't like to think about Tony and the atrocities that are, to this day taking place there still, and from what I hear, are more brazen and bad than ever before.
I felt it was my responsibility as someone who knew first hand of the truths regarding this perverted Tony Alamo. To share it, if peradventure, it could help someone out. I know my little 12 year old girl did not make that stuff up; she heard it from the self-proclaimed 'world pastor, Tony Alamo'. I am thankful to the Lord Jesus from the depths of my heart for delivering my family out of the Alamo Foundation. It truly does amaze and sadden me that some mothers and fathers, some still in the Alamo Foundation and that they would allow their precious little girls to be offered up to that perverted, child molesting old man...to have sex with and be subject to his deviate sexual abuses.
Imagine yourselves for one moment back when you were 10. 11, 12 years old and your own mom or dad forcing you to “marry” a 70 some year old man and have him on top of you, raping you! |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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Floridian-
put the above post in your pipe, and smoke it- toni a-lame-o worshipper !!!! you sure do rant (toe-knee himself, must be sitting behind you and dictating EVERY RANTING WORD !! if that IS TONI, telling you what to type, like the scripture, " Be ye angry and sin not " - he's got a LOT OF NERVE...I saw toni throw the most fearful fit, back in 1993, yelling, screaming, and finally GROWLING, because he must have jacked up his throat, with all that NOISE !!! he could never be reproved by ANYONE ! and is just FILLED TO CAPACITY with wrath and anger. and the "sin not" part of it- he's so consummed with sexual madness, raping, lying, stealing, perversions, bloodlust, beatings of congregants, tricking little girls into "marrying" him, having a harem of captives (with the windows boarded up, locks on the doors, guards, cameras, etc.) blasphemy (preaches, with all that sin on his soul, that is so wicked !!)
and as for Anchored- his first love is not supposed to be ALAN B.- but SOULS !!! and knowing Anchored...it IS !!! so syop being such a heretic, and coming on like "Mr. Spiritual" you work out your own salvation with fear & trembling, you and your "know-it-all-spirit" !!!
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worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.242.184.205
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Alan B.
why is floridian obsessing out on you ?? he can't seem to get very far in his posting, without mentioning you- what's going on with this guy ?? W.C.O. |
no_stoppin_me
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Posted From: 65.2.250.168
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WCO, he/she is only "caring for his soul", didn't you know that? Why are you receiving "accos" against Floridian?? |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.140.102.243
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Look out for those "Accos". |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 69.155.119.25
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N.S.M.,
that would be great if floridian was so concerned for souls- we all should be-and HAVE to be,(woe unto us if we preach not the gospel) but he focuses ONLY on ALAN B., as if the other BILLIONS of lost and dying souls are non-existent, and our question is... WHY ?? WORM |
floridian
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Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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Im sorry, Please as I said before in my other posts,remember who we are and our high calling,preach the word of the Living God to all,Proof regarding Souls,Jesus christ came that we might have life and that we might have it more abundantly. Today is another day that I have the chance to witness,to fellowship with other Brothers and Sisters,to read,pray,to help lift someone up,to preach,to reprove,yes I am given this day,and what will I do with this day? I was given this day that I may give it to someone else. Most of you people gave many many many days to someone else that they also might have life. Do not let the days you are given to give be kept to yourselves. Jesus Christ gave the day that we would have a way. No looking back.This day is for you Lord,you who gave it to us to give to everyone else in the World.Let us Lord be the light that you want us to be to all in this lost and dieing world ,who need you Jesus Christ light of the world,please shine through us all.In the name of Jesus Christ we pray. |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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lester, why didn't you just say ditto, mr. copy paste? gotta get them brownie points in for pastor perv?
(Message edited by anchored on August 14, 2007) |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 69.155.119.25
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I was just thinking about something...toe-knee used to teach us to lie, the type of lies like (read raining's above post from Aug. 13) "I don't know where Susan's casket is" translation-"how can I KNOW FOR SURE where it is ??" therefore, he transforms a lie into the "truth" now, when we were at the spec house, and had just seen Mike (ficticious name) 1 minute ago, and toe-knee asked if Mike was there, and someone who had just seen him said "yes sir, he's here" and they couldn't find him- toe-knee would just wig out all over the place, calling that person a LIAR !!! he taught us to run outside, for instance, so that when someone called you on the phone, they could say "he's not here" and the standard, plastic, evasive, utterly irritating answer they (T&S) always gave, as to their whereabouts, as we well recollect, was-"out of town". the conclusion of the whole subject ? there WAS no truth, there WAS no lie- everything was relative to the way T&S wanted it to appear !! |
no_stoppin_me
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Posted From: 65.2.250.168
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Oh Worm, so true, so true! That brings back some memories for me personally.
I used to call the Spec House (you know, the talking House) and ask if my mom was there. Whoever answered the phone would say "no" because most likely she was not actually in the room at that moment. So, I would say, "Well, do you know where she is?" and they would say "No". Of course, it wasn't "really" a lie because they didnt know exactly where she was at that particular moment"
But, it was ok to "lie to the devil"!!!! |
raining
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Posted From: 69.237.90.249
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floridian in the above post you said, "Jesus Christ light of the world,please shine through us all.In the name of Jesus Christ we pray."
Here is some light for the entire world - so they can escape a wolf in sheep clothing - tony alamo and his foundation.
Buffalo News Jun 9, 1994
Tony Alamo was convicted on tax- evasion charges and jailed after prosecutors argued he was a flight risk and a polygamist who preyed on married women and girls in his congregation.
A federal jury Wednesday convicted Alamo of understating his personal income in 1985 and failing to file tax returns from 1986 to 1988.
He faces up to six years in prison and fines of $550,000. U.S. District Judge Jon McCalla ordered Alamo jailed pending an Aug. 26 sentencing, citing concern over "the very great control Mr. Alamo has over a number of people."
Alamo, 59, formed a ministry for drug abusers and the homeless more than 20 years ago that eventually grew into a multimillion-dollar enterprise with a string of businesses, primarily in Arkansas, Tennessee and California.
Prosecutor Christopher Belcher said the businesses earned more than $9 million over four years.
Tony Alamo has declined to say how many members his church has.
After the jury's verdict, Belcher requested Alamo's immediate imprisonment, saying he might flee before sentencing and that he poses a threat to his followers.
Federal officials said Alamo has married eight of his followers since early 1993, including girls who were 15 years old and women who already had husbands.
"He threw the husbands out of the church and took the wives," Belcher said.
One of the girls was told that unless she married Alamo her family would be expelled from the church, he said.
Since the trial was on tax charges, the jury did not hear testimony on the sex and polygamy allegations.
Belcher said such offenses would fall under state laws against statutory rape in Tennessee and Arkansas.
Defense lawyer Jeffrey Dickstein argued that polygamy claims were no reason to jail Alamo before sentencing.
Alamo, who has filed for bankruptcy in Arkansas, also faces a state child-abuse charge in California, where he is accused of directing the beating of a church member's 11-year-old son. (Justin Miller)
More truth to come |
wilma
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Posted From: 72.186.198.30
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Floridian,
This is just a quick question. Please don't ignore it. Please answer.
You are so busy preaching at the people on this message board who are exposing the atrocities that tony alamo has committed.
Simple question: have you contacted tony alamo and told him he should repent of his evil deeds? have you contacted the parents who have given up their innocent young daughters to go live in tony alamo's house to be raped by him?
Please respond.
SG |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 69.155.119.25
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floridian is just TOO DEEP ! have you ever seen anyone like him, just dripping with LOVE for everyone ? (especially Alan B)so very antagonistic with scriptures, and then so apologetic when they are supposedly "taken wrong" !!?? he reminds me (as far as the degree of phoniness) of Johnnie Cochran, glad-handing, and blowing kisses, during O.J. Simpson's double murder trial. moments before that, you saw him elbow his way into the lime-light. NOBODY is as holy as "flower-idiot". QUESTION-IS HE TONY ALAMO ??? |
alanb
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Post Number: 41
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Alan B.
why is floridian obsessing out on you ?? he can't seem to get very far in his posting, without mentioning you- what's going on with this guy ?? W.C.O.
Like NSM said in another thread, I guess he really has the hots for me. Who knows? I mean I am extemely , fantastically hot. Everybody wants me (LOL). It's a tough cross to bear.........
What is an accos? |
alanb
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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I think Wilma hit it on the head as to his being Les Wood, and if so, he is like a mini Tony, minus the evilness of pedophilia, raping, lying, stealing etc, etc. At least I THINK minus those things.
If it is you, Les, get over me and Bill. There is a WHOLE WORLD out there for you to conquer. Have at em.......
And if it is you, and you do have the hots for me, get over that also. I don't have the time for you. Sorry. |
alanb
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Post Number: 43
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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While the title is Alamo Foundation, as HeyNow mentioned the other day, each thread SHOULD be for it's specific topic. We probably really don't need more than 12 threads on this whole board. This would cover every topic base, if people would stick to the topic at hand on that thread.
Remember, one of Factnets issues was that people were going off on tangents and not sticking to the topic of cults and cult awareness, and we probably DO take up an immense amount of bandwith.
Les, or Tony, or whoever you are, start your own thread called whatever you want and keep your posts there, as they all pertain to the same topic. If people want to reply to you, they can keep it there, and we will not be intruding on the thread by going off in a different direction.
At least it will make this board a little more organized for those who are discovering it for the first time.
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heynow
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Alan, Okay point taken. "Accos" is foundation speak. I will start a thread and explain it. It should be fun. |
floridian
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 74.170.109.133
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Folks I do not know who you think I am or how phoney I am or any other thought that you have,I tell the truth I lie not,and I am sure that there is others on this board that see how you talk and responed,and I know that that which works in me to be a proper testimony,to walk in God's way,to be a light shinning in a very dark world,Jesus Christ is the Son of God,I tell you now that serving God is more than just going on and on about one item,and that which worketh in me I am baptized in and that He it is that tells me to remind you to be very careful how you speak of Holy Ghost and power that works in me and through me.When I say that I am sorry it is true,I am sorry for you. It is the Holy Ghost telling me to tell you alanb that you most be born again,if you die with sin on your soul alanb,you will go to hell,repent or perish alanb,why die when there is life in Christ Jesus.you do not have to go to heaven alanb,but you do have to die,Please Choose Jesus Christ alanb before it is too late...And you who say you are christians please in the name of Jesus christ,look at how you have been responding to me and repent,I have said nothing wrong,check it and see,I have not asked you to believe in anyone nor have I promoted anyone to you,no one at all(other than Jesus Chris).yet you attacked me as you say tony alamo attacks others,look at yourselves,I do plee with you to stop your harsh words,it will be the Holy Ghost of God that will be your enemy if you carry on the way you responed.Your own words will judge you,Your words will judge you to hell or to Heaven, so Here let these be the that true to date words of the sinners prayer come out,please say it and mean it very very much,say,MY LORD AND MY GOD,HAVE MERCY ON MY SOUL A SINNER,I BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. I BELIEVE THAT HE DIED ON THE CROSS AND SHED BLOOD FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF ALL MY SINS. I BELIEVE THAT GOD RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST. I OPEN UP THE DOOR OF MY HEART AND I INVITE YOU INTO MY HEART LORD JESUS. WASH ALL MY SINS AWAY IN THE PRECIOUS BLOOD THAT YOU SHED FOR ME. YOU WILL NOT TURN ME AWAY LORD JESUS;YOU WILL SAVE MY SOUL.I KNOW BECAUSE YOU WORD THE BIBLE SAYS SO. YOUR WORD SAYS THAT YOU WILL TURN NO ONE AWAY AND THAT INCLUDES ME. THEREFORE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ME,AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ANSWERED ME,AND I KNOW THAT I AM SAVED,AND I THANK YOU LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR SAVING MY SOUL.. |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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floridian,
There are people here who would like to have you witness with them I'm sure but not to them. Don't know what you do for a living. You will eventually need your own job and be self supporting. It's time you thought about a change. Are you comfortable going where the Holy Spirit leads you. Can you be a good worker and not appear as a fanatic on your job. Jesus said Mat 10:16: Behold,I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. There are things to learn and you must be shown in the spirit. You can speak with God yourself and listen to Him alone. Jesus is your personal savior. It's time for the big league. Speak and listen to Jesus our Lord yourself and let no man take your crown. Start thinking about what you want to do for a living. If you are where I think you are do not wait for the property to get sold or taken. Pray to the Lord fervently!!!, IMPORTANT This is serious business. This concerns your future. The time is at hand. If you wish to speak to me in private it would be a good idea. I will set something up. Let me know. We need strong Christians. We never lost our first love.
-Mix |
floridian
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Thank you very much Mixter1,and I say thank you again,The big league is right,we must remember that the Spirit of God bears witness,and witnessing to each other is very much of the Lord,how about edifying one another,brother's keeper,or one over taken in a fault,yes we are our brothers keeper even if the brother,wants to despies our Holy conversations. Mixter1 that is why we must have a Holy witness,that some may hear and receive. It hurts very very much that some of the brothers and sisters want to go the way of cain,and there is a Book that God has that brings to remembrance,and I want to be in that book often. |
bintheredunthat
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Floridian - "I have said nothing wrong,check it and see"
That's not true. You lied about what the Bible says. I called you on it, you ignored me and now you're lying about it.
"I tell you now that serving God is more than just going on and on about one item"
That's funny coming from you. It seems you're obsessed with alanb and his atheism.
"I do plee with you to stop your harsh words,it will be the Holy Ghost of God that will be your enemy if you carry on the way you responed."
The Holy ghost will never be the enemy of anyone who preaches against rape and child molestation. Or those who expose child molesters and rapists posing as Christians. You floridian are a blasphemer and it could be that because you are so misrepresentative of the Holy Ghost that you have actually blasphemed the Holy Ghost. I hope not for your sake although it would explain your apparently seared conscience.
Mixter1 speak for yourself. I would never want this lunatic witnessing with me.
"we are our brothers keeper even if the brother,wants to despies our Holy conversations"
I am not the brother of anyone who condones rape and child molestation. I never was and I never will be. Defending a child molester and calling his cult a church is not holy conversation. The blood of Jesus is against you floridian.
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
Can anybody think of even one thing on this list that Tony isn't guilty of? I can't.
Here's some food for thought floridian. Atheism isn't on that list. What's up with that? Everything Tony does is on the list yet you choose to go after alanb for something not on the list. Looks to me like you're being a respecter of persons. |
heynow
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Correct me if I am wrong but, I don't remember floridian writing anything about supporting tony.
However if floridian IS tony. I am sure the board will soon get saltier than the salton sea. |
jackrussell
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Posted From: 70.126.184.56
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Floridian, Heavensangel, Mimi, Open mind are not Alamo, you can tell by the body (writing style) language. But, like the rest of us have either been members, supporters and are affected(infected) still today by plenty of the lingering deceit. If you really left the foundation, then let the foundation leave out of you.
So what we are trying to do, for the four of you is to shake off all the colloquialisms obtained thru the putrid aura of the Alamo gas. Were's that Pharrt detector??
Whether you might be hangers on in Ft. Smith, NYC or wherever, this buds for you. The bud of a new beginning without the Alamo bible speak from the fifth dimension. The reality show of Alamo, and your accountabilty to accept that you have wittingly or unwittingly accepted from this false prophet, and aided and abetted in the cover up of his atrocities. In this day and age, as far as Alamo has gone, it just seems that one really, really wants to believe in a lie to want to follow or support his insanity in any way, shape or form. Or is it that some are so unread, they are clueless, and just don't know. Well, not anymore, cause we are here, alive and well on this forum and all the exposes' of the dastardly life and times of that total miscreant, Tony Alamo is detailed for all to see and easily corroborated in dozens of documented testimonials, signed, sealed and delivered if you like.
So Africa, Asia, South America and all the rest, cease with your donations to the Alamo Christian ministries, and don't accept the 'so called freebies' that may be sent because the gift in that bosom only results in an enabling of a despicable group of polygamists, pedophile acceptance and the continuation of that all encompassing predatorial damage that this organization has set to pursue, among its own young members and any that could fall victim also from without. Cut off the predators, and leave Alamo alone! Completely alone! Remember the tract where he asks to be left alone? Give him what he asks for! |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Floridian,
If you want to be accepted you have to watch what
you say falsly about my brethren. I have gone out on a limb to help you but there is a limit. Don't shame me please. You say: "It hurts very very much that some of the brothers and sisters want to go the way of cain,". Please stop this stuff.
-Mix |
floridian
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Post Number: 25
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Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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The only way to be accepted is to speak with a sincere heart,If I see a brother or sister or anyone even a beast is going out on the wrong limb,then it would only be, Proverbs 12:10, righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.,if I did not warn them.I have said nothing falsely,the Word of God applies to me also. God told cain that he would be accepted if he would bring forth the sacrifice of life right,cain got mad and killed.The Word of God also says that sometimes we act as brut beasts,I want to regard,no I will regard that life also. We know that Nebuchadnezzar also had a period of a beastly time and then he woke up.Praise God Praise God,there have been times when I acted beastly and then God allowed me to look up to heaven and give thanks,. Let us all look up to heaven and give thanks.reproof to me to everyone is the way of Life. |
anchored
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Post Number: 91
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Floridiot, oops I mean Floridian. It's obvious you are attempting to use this discussion board as a springboard trying to impress your lord and master, Tony Alamo. Since you are so astute (definition of astute - cunning, crafty, wily) about being your "brother's keeper" how can you stand idly by and watch testimony after testimony of Tony Alamo being exposed for all of his filthy ungodly deeds and abominations??? Instead you come on this board and preach to the people posting here and, yet, you know absolutely zip about them.
You have not once commented about Jody's, Nikki's, Tammy's, Katrina's (and many more) testimonies of the horror they went through at the hands of the evil, lying, wicked child raping, beating pervert, pedophile Tony Alamo.
And yet you call yourself a Christian. True Christians report and expose liars, rapists, child abusers, wolves in sheep's clothing, false prophets and exploiters of the gospel of Jesus Christ and SHINE THE LIGHT ON THEM.
You are such a nimrod. Obviously, you are totally oblivious to how you appear on this board. Does this open your eyes a little or are you too far gone? |
floridian
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Username: floridian
Post Number: 26
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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bintheredunthat
Jesus Christ Is Lord,I confess that Jesus Christ is The Son of The Living God,the only God,the maker of Heaven and earth,The Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ is applied to my soul,Jesus christ and the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ would like to be applied to your soul also,Oh what joy of sins forgiven A joy the Blood washed know,( and I am one),John 8:32,And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
I know the Truth,and the Truth (JESUS CHRIST),makes me free. Come home bintheredunthat
come home to Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God.What can wash away our sins? Nothing but the Blood of Jesus,What can make us whole again?Nothing but the Blood of Jesus. |
anchored
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By golly, I think you truly are in the TWILIGHT ZONE. |
anchored
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Anyone can quote scriptures. So did so Eliphaz, Bildad and Zophar, (Job's miserable comforters) to their own demise.
There are plenty of scriptures condemning the wicked abominable atrocities of Tony Alamo. I don't see floridian pulling any of those out. But then when you're in the twilight zone, what can you expect? |
floridian
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Username: floridian
Post Number: 28
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 72.149.216.254
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Yes ,tho some words can not be uttered by all and satan can not tell the truth. Job's reply,Job 6,1But Job answered and said,
2,Oh that my grief were throughly weighed, and my calamity laid in the balances together!
3,For now it would be heavier than the sand of the sea: therefore my words are swallowed up.
4,For the arrows of the Almighty are within me, the poison whereof drinketh up my spirit: the terrors of God do set themselves in array against me.
5,Doth the wildass bray when he hath grass? or loweth the ox over his fodder?
6,Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?
7,The things that my soul refused to touch are as my sorrowful meat.
8,Oh that I might have my request; and that God would grant me the thing that I long for!
9,Even that it would please God to destroy me; that he would let loose his hand, and cut me off!
10T,hen should I yet have comfort; yea, I would harden myself in sorrow: let him not spare; for I have not concealed the words of the Holy One.
11,What is my strength, that I should hope? and what is mine end, that I should prolong my life?
12,Is my strength the strength of stones? or is my flesh of brass?
13,Is not my help in me? and is wisdom driven quite from me?
14,To him that is afflicted pity should be shewed from his friend; but he forsaketh the fear of the Almighty.
15,My brethren have dealt deceitfully as a brook, and as the stream of brooks they pass away;
16,Which are blackish by reason of the ice, and wherein the snow is hid:
17,What time they wax warm, they vanish: when it is hot, they are consumed out of their place.
18,The paths of their way are turned aside; they go to nothing, and perish.
19,The troops of Tema looked, the companies of Sheba waited for them.
20,They were confounded because they had hoped; they came thither, and were ashamed.
21,For now ye are nothing; ye see my casting down, and are afraid.
22,Did I say, Bring unto me? or, Give a reward for me of your substance?
23,Or, Deliver me from the enemy's hand? or, Redeem me from the hand of the mighty?
24,Teach me, and I will hold my tongue: and cause me to understand wherein I have erred.
25,How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
26,Do ye imagine to reprove words, and the speeches of one that is desperate, which are as wind?
27,Yea, ye overwhelm the fatherless, and ye dig a pit for your friend.
28,Now therefore be content, look upon me; for it is evident unto you if I lie.
29,Return, I pray you, let it not be iniquity; yea, return again, my righteousness is in it.
30,Is there iniquity in my tongue? cannot my taste discern perverse things?
I want to make it to heaven,and what soever pleases God,if it is God's pleasure to afflict me for the benefits of others,and or to spare my soul,let it be for God alone is all rightous. |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Like I said, anyone can spout off scriptures. No one is listening to your spouting.
You have already established that you are a member of Tony Alamo's congregation when you made your big "we at the church speech." What makes you think anyone would want to hear your rantings??? |
anchored
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Post Number: 99
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Here's some scripture for ya.
THE LORD SAYS: ALL ADULTERERS, ALL FORNICATORS, ALL LIARS SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN HELL-FIRE.
THAT MEANS YOU TONY ALAMO!
REPENT YOU LYING, FORNICATING, PEDOPHILE WHO HAS KICKED HUSBANDS OUT OF YOUR JOINT AND FORCED THEIR WIVES INTO YOUR BED OF ADULTERY BY TWISTING GOD'S WORDS SO YOU CAN FULFILL YOUR EVIL PEDOPHILE LUSTS!
YOU ARE A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING. |
mixter1
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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Amen!!! Mac and my brothers and sisters,
IMPORTANT You may know this but: If you are sending pictures to Marcel's web site the same pictures are copied and downloaded. They are then photo edited and put on enemies of the foundation. Once you are out there you are out there. Again. The Alamo group is taking the pictures from this site and posting lies and accusations about you(REALLY STUPID ONES).
You got the old geezer in true form.
NOW FOR THIS TASTY MORSEL, follow link link below.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/471/290/
If you haven't all ready. God bless. |
anchored
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Post Number: 100
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Tony, I put that above post in large bold print just for you so you could see and understand every word without using your magnifying glass. I'm afraid one of your minions will have to read this follow-up post to ya. |
raining
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Posted From: 131.89.192.111
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Here is some light for the entire world - so they can escape a wolf in sheep clothing - tony alamo and his foundation.
Buffalo News Jun 9, 1994
Tony Alamo was convicted on tax- evasion charges and jailed after prosecutors argued he was a flight risk and a polygamist who preyed on married women and girls in his congregation.
A federal jury Wednesday convicted Alamo of understating his personal income in 1985 and failing to file tax returns from 1986 to 1988.
He faces up to six years in prison and fines of $550,000. U.S. District Judge Jon McCalla ordered Alamo jailed pending an Aug. 26 sentencing, citing concern over "the very great control Mr. Alamo has over a number of people."
Alamo, 59, formed a ministry for drug abusers and the homeless more than 20 years ago that eventually grew into a multimillion-dollar enterprise with a string of businesses, primarily in Arkansas, Tennessee and California.
Prosecutor Christopher Belcher said the businesses earned more than $9 million over four years.
Tony Alamo has declined to say how many members his church has.
After the jury's verdict, Belcher requested Alamo's immediate imprisonment, saying he might flee before sentencing and that he poses a threat to his followers.
Federal officials said Alamo has married eight of his followers since early 1993, including girls who were 15 years old and women who already had husbands.
"He threw the husbands out of the church and took the wives," Belcher said.
One of the girls was told that unless she married Alamo her family would be expelled from the church, he said.
Since the trial was on tax charges, the jury did not hear testimony on the sex and polygamy allegations.
Belcher said such offenses would fall under state laws against statutory rape in Tennessee and Arkansas.
Defense lawyer Jeffrey Dickstein argued that polygamy claims were no reason to jail Alamo before sentencing.
Alamo, who has filed for bankruptcy in Arkansas, also faces a state child-abuse charge in California, where he is accused of directing the beating of a church member's 11-year-old son. (Justin Miller)
More truth to come |
saved_21570
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Posted From: 172.167.110.58
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Belcher said such offenses would fall under state laws against statutory rape in Tennessee and Arkansas.
I bet there is no statute of limitations for rape. |
mixter1
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Posted From: 76.214.13.246
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I hope so. What about double indemnity? Tony Alamo's Lawler's have reached Settlement $$$$. So- Tony buys his way out of prison. This must come before the supreme court. I know Tony will (attempt to) liquidate assets and off to the Cayman islands. Looking like the Old Frog as he is. Until the lord stops his heart.
May be soon. |
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