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expositor
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Posted From: 83.133.111.24
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Texarkana Gazette
}}Opinion
Comments and Criticisms - February 1, 2007
Former Fouke City Official Wants to Tell Her Side
I am the former secretary for the City of Fouke. I held this position for more than seven years and I enjoyed serving the residents of the City of Fouke while I held it.
I believe that the time has come for the entire truth to be known concerning the new mayor in the City of Fouke. Mr. Purvis made statements in an article in your newspaper on Sunday, Jan. 21, concerning the disrepair of the city equipment, the nastiness of city hall, the unwillingness of former employees and the former mayor to assist in the transition. I would like to tell you the rest of the story.
Mr. Purvis did not mention any of the reasons why things are the way they are. For instance he did not mention that I, along with 2 or 3 other city employees, had been threatened with our jobs for months. I wonder why this conveniently slipped his mind? This was all done to make him look as if he were just up there winging it because he has had no help to make this transition.
First of all, everything that could have possibly been done to close out the final book work for 2006 was done, completed and sealed when I left City Hall after working 13 hours on Saturday, Dec. 30, along with Renee Williams and Wanda Harris. As a matter of fact, we worked for several nights prior to the change in administration to complete everything that we could so that the transition would not be so hard on Mr. Purvis. We did the final billing for the utility systems, we completed the end of the year payroll, filled out the 1099 and W-2s and I even came back after the New Year and closed the bank statements out for December so that the City Council would have a complete set of financial statements. He also did not mention that I, personally, have been to City Hall several times to aid both him and the new secretary, Tammy, so as to help them to learn at least one of the software programs in the computer. Neither did he mention that he has not hesitated to call me for assistance—even when I have been on my job. He calls my cell phone, not the city’s cell phone, but my personal cell phone to inquire about different things and I have yet to tell him not to call me back, nor have I refused to help in any way.
Another thing that he failed to mention was the water and sewer. I continue to hold the operating license for both—at least for now. Awfully funny that everyone is still drinking the water (and they have not died from it yet) and flushing their commodes just fine, considering how no one has helped poor Mr. Purvis.
As for the status of the city equipment, to my knowledge, there were two trucks that were not running when I left the city full-time in November. But that really is not that important of an issue. This is because Mr. Purvis also failed to tell in his article that the city laborers worked diligently for the most part of the last month of 2006 to complete several large jobs that we had going. He never mentioned in his article a single thing positive that had been done to assist in this transition.
I have offered my services and experience to the city in an offer to help train the new secretary. After the article that appeared in the paper, I feel that there needs to be an apology printed and the truth to be told concerning what Mr. Purvis told in his article.
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expositor
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One good example of offering to help was the first payroll period of this New Year. I offered to go and help the new secretary. Mr. Purvis made the statement that he believed they could do it.
Well, apparently, he doesn’t know much concerning tax revenues and utility revenues because he paid the city employees for work they had done in water for that week out of the street fund. This is a big time no-no.
A lot of you think that Terry has done such an excellent job since Jan. 1. Tell me one thing that you can actually see that has been done. Just one. The secretary is still handwriting receipts. Why? The computer does this for you and if she learned the computer so quickly, why isn’t she posting the payments when someone brings their payment in? What have you seen done outside? Not much of anything but a lot of riding around town and burning up gas. I have noticed several places that need patching in the streets from all of the water that we have had recently. I cannot see where these city employees are doing a whole lot to keep the city in good physical condition.
The comments that Mr. Purvis made concerning members of the community volunteering to help find the water meters so that they can be read are not correct. A former city employee, Brady Lewis, is reading the meters for the billing as I write this letter to you.
The comments that Mr. Purvis made concerning members of the community volunteering to help find the water meters so that they can be read are not correct. A former city employee, Brady Lewis, is reading the meters for the billing as I write this letter to you.
As for the comments concerning the cleaning of City Hall, that entire building had been cleaned from top to bottom before we left there. So, you have actually only done routine cleaning to keep City Hall clean, nothing major, like you have made out to people.
As for the former mayor, I cannot speak for him. But if I were him, I wouldn’t help Mr. Purvis either. You do not know the things that have been said about him and his family by Mr. Purvis and his supporters.
A lot of people do not realize the harsh things that have been done and said to some of us and the newspaper has only painted one side of this picture. So, I believe that it is time for the entire picture to be completed. They drug my husband, my 17-year-old daughter and my three year-old son into this like a bunch of vultures waiting for a dying deer to take its last breath.
During the time when Mr. Purvis was running for office, he had quite a few supporters. My only problem with any of this was the fact that he involved a lot of people who do not even own property, live, pay taxes or own a business in Fouke, rallied on his side. Then, the influence of these people set in and began to take its effect on a large portion of the residents that do live here, own property here, pay their taxes or operate a business here. These people ran this campaign like they were out to get blood—like a pack of wild dogs. Plain and simple, if you do not have a right to voice your opinion concerning the status of the City of Fouke, meaning that you do not have anything that ties you to Fouke, stay out of our business and find another bandwagon to get on.
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expositor
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This election was handled in a very tacky way. People who were innocent, that were not even running for a political seat, and their families have been dragged through this like this were a big-time presidential election and all of the stops had been pulled out to make sure that the right person won this election. Well, Citizens for a Good Community, you have gotten the change that you so badly wanted and, Terry, you have gotten what you wanted. So, let’s see what kind of change this is really going to be. It probably is not going to be what you expected.
Well, you didn’t have a chance to get rid of me because I left on my own accord. The city marshal has resigned as of Jan. 31; I wonder what caused that? Maybe some of this back-biting has finally gotten to him, too. And as for the Alamo Ministries, you guys had better put on your waders because I think you are going to need them.
Yes, Fouke is definitely changed now. I believe that the downfall is upon us. We now have a mayor and a group that wants to control who can live within our community. Way to regress, Fouke. This type of thing makes me ashamed to say that I live in this community.
It is time for the people who don’t have any ties to Fouke to move on and stay out of business before we end up in court and broke.
Melanie N. Bottoms
Fouke, Ark.} |
phahrrrt_detector
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Posted From: 85.234.144.215
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Dew da naymz
a.) Clarence (Chuck) Steinhauser
b.) Joe Davis (uh Hizpanick dude)
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c.) Rudy Buh-gowe-nya
frum Shmoniez joint
ring uh bell ?
er howp-ful-lee
sownd uh gong ?
lookin 4 slipprey eelz
Phahrrrt detecter |
alanb
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Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 71.42.77.7
| | Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 2:25 pm: |
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Looks like our favorite pedophile is running again. He left Fouke on Sunday or Monday. What ever is he scared of? |
modesto
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Posted From: 70.134.106.124
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When I was there, many years ago,I remember a then new trend starting of people across the board who were trusted to handle money "skimming".This occured from the lowest(people on pick ups taking expense money for "road smokes", clothing and such,justifying it by sort of regarding it as "back pay"), to the people handling the five and six figure deals. I wonder if or how this trend has evolved and how it is going now in the midst of the "mattress caper" and who knows what else,especially now that the trusted folks are older,in need of retirement and in control of alot more money and now that ,clearly, there is some need for the cadre to sort of think about who will rule the roost after the natural departure of the old king. |
brother_d
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 68.19.69.185
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The departure of the old king won't be soon enough |
rez
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Posted From: 207.200.116.135
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PACA
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|Flag |#303 Sunday May 13
Tom Alford wrote:
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Tony has quite a collection of photos of minors. He began collecting them when he was in prison. Maybe he is trying to find out, what is is available for him to go after.
As people may or may not remember, the Alamo's vehicles were seen at Foukes ball practices. These are the pee wee teams not high school. Now we're hearing about them filming minors at meetings. Which in itself is ok. But not ok when there isn't a meeting going on. They're smiling at the girls while they're taking their pictures. Their children are not allowed to even go watch one of our games. Anybody with a brain would have to ask why. So why are they there? Why are they watching? Why do they care what's going on? Is there a pattern being formed here? These are things that citizens need to be aware of and keep a watch for. They would not want anyone watching or taking pictures of the children at the compound. Well, we do not want and will not allow them to do it to our children in Fouke. Looks like the mind-less Alamo robots are up to something |
pharsez_n_phariseez
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Posted From: 85.234.144.215
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WHO IS JOE DAVIS?
IS HE A THREAT?
IF SO WHY?
AYE CARUMBA, JOE,
NO HABLA INGLES? |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.42.77.192
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By Dana Blankenhorn
On File By University Of Texas
Here is the problem I have with special pleading. Anyone can do it.
But once we let one do it, all do it.
And so I call upon whoever hosts the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries to pull the plug on its ISP account.
And I call on all other ISPs to refuse the "pastor's" money.
I do this because his site just spammed me from the e-mail address tlthe5th@myway.com.
Yes, he thought he had a good excuse -- the Terry Schiavo case. But if that is a good enough excuse to spam, so is any other religious issue. So, too, is any political issue. So, too, is the other side of the issue. So, too, are fund-raising appeals on that issue, then merchandise sales on that issue, etc. etc.
Those in the Ministry should understand bright lines, and know that you don't cross one to stop another. Jesus Christ himself stayed the hand of a man who defended him from arrest, saying he who dies by the sword would perish the same way.
He who lives by spam should lose their Internet privileges as a spammer.
IS THERE ANYTHING HE WONT TRY TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF. "HE"S "THE WORLD CON ARTIST" |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Copied from Fouke Forums (topix). The "Fearful 5", are the coucil members, including Ben, who are in Tony's pocket.
Posted by PACA
I decided to post this on this blog for our fearful 5 to read. Here's your buddies.
We knew it was just a matter of time so here's Buster and Alamo in their own words: Program # 395
Alamo: " Now they're trying to railroad Buster White into prison". "Lord please anoint Buster".
Buster: " About 20 of them came in my store". 2 street officers, 1 detective, 2-3 authenticators and all the rest FBI".
Alamo: "What else did these bastards do Buster"?
Buster: " Well, they came in about 10:15 and stayed till 6:15. I didn't have any legal representation". " Before my attorney came, 1 with no badge said "You know we can make all this go away". "What you mean go away"? " We know Alamo is in a money laundering scheme." "I said, that's a lie!"
Alamo: " They were trying to scare you huh?" "Because you go to my church." "Buster cant be scared by anything."
Buster: " They told me if I called my attorney, your attorney will tell you to stop talking." " They (FBI) stole $110,000.00 from my safe and 55,000-60,000 dollars of inventory." "We've been harassed at our home." "People standing on the corner taking pictures." "They got our trash and scattered it." "After weeks and weeks of harassment at my home, my attorney said the prosecutor told my attorney," we could come to some reasonable conclusion". "Now I found out yesterday that now they've changed their minds". "When they found out I wasn't going to lie on you or your ministry,(HE"S ALAMO'S HERO), they had a change of heart". "And now they're coming back in a more forceful manner." "I told everyone involved in this, you can take my business, my home, cars but you cant take my soul!" (WHAT A MAN) "They've threaten me with income tax but it'll all go away if I stop going to your church."
Alamo: " We'll get my legal team after them." (HA HA HA)
NOW THE WORLD IS AFTER BUSTER BECAUSE OF TONY. IS'NT THAT CONVENIENT. |
smitty
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What's this in reference to? Does this have something to do with the mattress scam? |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Smitty,
THis was one of Tones radio broadcasts. Not sure if it is about the matresses, or just ALamo in general, but seems like they are trying to get Buster to rat on Tony.
Can you believe Buster said the FBI stole $110,000.00 from him, as well as inventory?
Chutzpah! |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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New Thread on Topix
Post #4 by PACA is especially good news
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/fouke-ar/TP2I3KR2UTRLGRN7A |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.211.49
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Smitty, Just curious. Did the FBI take $110,000 worth of mattresses from Buster? |
smitty
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I don't know. I belive there was a discrepency between the number of mattresses donated and the ones recovered. I onlyknowthat Tommy Scarcello was implicated along with Tony. I was wondering if Buster fit into the scheme somehow. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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As Tony's "associate pastor", I'm sure Buster is involved to the hilt. But he says they took $110,000.00 CASH as well as another $60,000.00 inventory. Who knows? |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.211.49
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Just a few things I would like to comment on regarding what Buster said at the board meeting. Buster said he has his own house and his own business. Now, if these are facts it would definetely mean tony will not be able to push Buster around. Tony's power over Buster is very limited. Hence, I don't think Buster knows that much about tony or more importantly how tony treats his followers (people actually living there). So, tony knows he cannot get "crude and rude" with Buster. The first time he pulls that, Buster will be gone.
Okay now, next time you are at a Fouke meeting ask Buster if he "pulls watch" after he finishes his work day. Or gets up in the middle of the night to do errands for tony. Or how many times did tony call Buster "names" or start yelling at him. My guess is nada nada. Hence, Buster is thrilled to be involved with tony. Folks, Buster is in the dark. He has no idea whatsoever what is going on behind the scenes after he goes to his own home. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Buster owns the Alamo church also. It is in his name, not Tony's. So YES, Buster is fully aware of what is going on. All of the business he says are his, The Great American Flea Market, a thrift store, etc., are probably really owned ny Tony, not Buster.
There's NO WAY , that Buster doesn't know what is really going on. Lets face it, he's an ex-con also, that TA met in prison |
weaned_child
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Posted From: 85.195.119.14
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Valid point Alan
The more things change the more they remain the same.
Great leg work unearthing what we know Herr Toad doesn't want in the public eye! Thanks for making all the Factnet viewers privy to that!! |
no_stoppin_me
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Posted From: 72.242.140.218
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Was anything ever in TA's name? I remember as a kid workingin the office (heaven forbid the kids actually be kids and play around), typing up corporate resolutions where people would sign as president or something and then at the same time they would sign an undated resignation letter. That way, if they fell out of good graces or oh-my-gosh even left the cult, they would just fill in the date and "walla" - no longer president.
TA thinks he's so tricky!! NOT |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.211.49
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Okay now, I think I might be getting a clearer picture. So, Are you are saying Buster didn't really achieve anything on his own? All the stuff Buster has was handed to him by tony? If that's the case then Buster has no business telling anyone he has a business. The brothers and sisters sweated it out to achieve something and tony gives it to a newcomer Buster White. Seems like a pretty rotten deal if you ask me.
From what Buster said it appears he has his own bank account and the brothers and sisters are contributing to it. Yep, you can be sure Buster is laughing all the way to the bank. Now I understand why it seemed he had a hint of smile on his face during his speech at the board meeting. Not a bad deal for a guy that has been with the outfit less than three years. Associate pastor no less. Hmmmmm I guess those folks that have been there 20 - 30 years just were not worthy. |
jackrussell
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The great TA could justify that with scripture, too. Like the eleventh hour thing or the 'the last shall be first.' Tony Alamo is the quintesential scripture con man, tagging a scripture into a situation it has nothing to do with, but sure sounded good at the time, if you are duped, that is.
But now TA is so far out, his perverse polygamy stuff doesn't even sound good to a moron.... |
smitty
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Sooooo...If Mr. White owns the businesses, who are his employees? Sounds like a job for...........The U.S.Dept. of Labor |
heynow
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LOL Smitty, they are volunteers VOLUNTEERS.
goodness gracious great balls of fire. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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TA truly has been the master of deception, the master of deciet, the master con-artist, but now days spotlights are being shined on his cleaver and decietful way with words. TA thinks he's fooling everyone with his twisted false doctrines, and he even think's he will decieve and con God at the judgement bar of God. TA calls his plan for his salvation a "win", "win" situation. |
smitty
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He's not a master anything...Like Ian pointed out in an earlier post..Moses Berg, Sun-Myung Moon, Scientology, ect, ect all are far more larger, richer and more deceptive that anything Tony could dream of. The sad fact is we were led around by a couple of third-rate con artists |
modesto
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Posted From: 70.134.85.90
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Yeah Smitty, That's not too flattering is it?They really were "small potatoes".Still,there was a Gestalt involved.For me, and I'm sure many if not most of the others the hold of the Foundation was about the brothers and sisters , the general schedule and lifestyle,fellowship,peer pressure the general sub-culture of the place even more than about Tony and Sue.The constant fear of punisment if I left my percieved mission from God (being in the Foundation)also kept me there.
So I would offer that it isn't only the leaders, it's the overall life too, which the leaders attached themselves to for their benefit,much like a tick or leach.It wasn't really about their talent or charisma after all. |
redeemed_9131970
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Posted From: 75.66.232.188
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Leaving T&S out of the picture momentarily, the draw was undeniably a spiritual one. Most of us were there to serve the Lord, albeit over the years, there were tares sewn in amongst us here and there. And because you don’t know what you don’t know (there was something rotten festering, but for the most part we were kids with no ‘schooling’ so to speak to help us recognize the beginnings of the rotteness )… we continued to stay as the going continued to get rough. It was all we knew, and we clung to it, like a babe clings to its mother, mistakenly pleading the blood against everything that even so much as hinted at it not being the pure work of God we were encouraged to whole-heartedly accept it as.
When in all actuality it wasn’t, nor could it be, because early on evil crept in and perverted the very core of the work as we were very intentionally steered away from rightly dividing everything according to the Lord’s Word, our only God-given untainted guide on this side of eternity – the B(asic) I(nstructions) B(efore) L(eaving) E(arth):BIBLE.
When it came to meekly -(a tremendously powerful word) scrutinizing our pastors’ behavior with His Holy Word and requiring their uncompromised adherence to Its unerring dictates, we failed. It became all too generally accepted making it easy to exchange what the Word said, for what T&S said in critical matters concerning their position of absolute authority. This is where the group-mentality entered in. If anyone did scripturally question the actions of T&S, it wasn’t just the pastors they were up against, that particular ‘odd-man-out’ brother or sister was up against the mind-set of the bulk of the congregation, too.
Knowingly having this intoxicating all-controlling real sway over the congregation, empowered T&S to combat any bible based ridicule of their actions with this all too recognizable attitude: “The door’s right where it was when you came in – if you don’t want to live by our rules, you can leave whenever you want. And further more we have no intention of putting up with anyone trying to sew discord around here. We run this operation and that’s just how its going to continue. No one’s going to come in here like a bad apple and upset this apple cart as long as I’m heading this place up!”
John, if you were there (and I know you were, we all were), then it doesn’t take too much imagination to know whose words those were.
That, in toto, was the crux of the Foundation’s downfall, and all our high hopes and unfulfilled dreams for the foundation went right along with it. We just didn’t have the God-given sense to realize it, until it as all began to go to hell in a hand bag, some of us woke up and got out; while still others of us, mercifully, were kicked out.
cp |
saved_21570
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Posted From: 172.149.100.72
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Well said, Carolyn |
smitty
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Posted From: 71.102.155.42
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Well said cp. Anything good that comes to mind during my stay there was because of the brothers and sisters and our egarness to follow Jesus. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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I heard a little story over the weekend I found edifying, uplifting, that I can relate to and I'm sure many of you can relate to. A couple brothers met Bart Beardsley down on Soledad Cyn Rd in Saugus some time after he had left. He told the brothers, "you guys are the salt of the earth, but Tony, no.". |
bystander
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I have read this board for close to a year now and have come to feel as if I know most of you even though we have never met. Because I live in Fouke, and because I have a "front row seat" so to speak, I want to interject something to set the record straight.
Buster White is indeed Tony's associate pastor and seems to be his golden boy right now. However, Buster has owned the Great American Outlet Mall for years before he met Tony Alamo. Buster says he has been "saved" for about 3 years now. I hope that is true but I must say, he is definitely following in the footsteps of his "World Pastor" mentor.
Buster's own place of business was raided by the authorities because Buster was selling knock-off merchandise as the real deal. I don't believe for a minute that he doesn't know what he was doing is wrong. Even the most immature baby christian has a good idea of right and wrong and selling bootleg merchandise is a no brainer. This had nothing to do with the Tempur-Pedic incident. This is Buster's very own baby.
Tony may rant and rave on his radio show about the FBI being (his words) weasels, stinking weasels, creeps, namby pambies, bastards, stinkin lice etc. etc. but you watch him turn on Buster like white on rice when the heat comes down. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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My mistake for implying that Tony must own the Flea Market, or the thrift shop. I just made the assumption that Tony really owns all. But I still believe that Buster is fully aware of what is happening in the "church" |
pobox398
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Posted From: 75.66.232.188
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Bystander says: ...Buster White is indeed Tony's associate pastor and seems to be his golden boy right now. However, Buster has owned the Great American Outlet Mall for years before he met Tony Alamo. Buster says he has been "saved" for about 3 years now. I hope that is true but I must say, he is definitely following in the footsteps of his "World Pastor" mentor.
...Tony may rant and rave on his radio show about the FBI being (his words) weasels, stinking weasels, creeps, namby pambies, bastards, stinkin lice etc. etc. but you watch him turn on Buster like white on rice when the heat comes down.
Truer words were never spoken...cp  |
bystander
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Alan...I believe Buster knows what is going on in the church too. And I believe he is up to his eyeballs in it. All the more reason why Tony would cuddle up to him.
It is a fact that Buster himself married a 14 year old girl several years ago. He whisked her off to Las Vegas and tied the knot. Funny how birds of a feather...you know the rest. |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 205.188.116.11
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I've never been able to post on Factnet before but do read it. Sanford not Buster purchased the place where the church is. It was a grocery store at one time. When Alamo's bunch set up house sealing commodities there nobody really thought much about them. That all started when he came to town. In case ya'll have'nt heard any of his messages, lately it seems he's tring to justify someone leaving the compound by saying "he" put them out because they started having a bad temper. I wonder if he's talking about Don. The Alamoites have completely stopped posting on Topix. I guess they cant argue with HIS OWN WORDS. Now would be a good time for some ex members to tell their story on the Texarkana Topix. They're the people we're getting the word to. And most of the people working in Buster's flea market dont speak English. Except the one that answers the phone. |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 205.188.116.11
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We knew it was just a matter of time so here's Buster and Alamo in their own words: Program # 395
Alamo: " Now they're trying to railroad Buster White into prison". "Lord please anoint Buster".
Buster: " About 20 of them came in my store". 2 street officers, 1 detective, 2-3 authenticators and all the rest FBI".
Alamo: "What else did these bastards do Buster"?
Buster: " Well, they came in about 10:15 and stayed till 6:15. I didn't have any legal representation". " Before my attorney came, 1 with no badge said "You know we can make all this go away". "What you mean go away"? " We know Alamo is in a money laundering scheme." "I said, that's a lie!"
Alamo: " They were trying to scare you huh?" "Because you go to my church." "Buster cant be scared by anything."
Buster: " They told me if I called my attorney, your attorney will tell you to stop talking." " They (FBI) stole $110,000.00 from my safe and 55,000-60,000 dollars of inventory." "We've been harassed at our home." "People standing on the corner taking pictures." "They got our trash and scattered it." "After weeks and weeks of harassment at my home, my attorney said the prosecutor told my attorney," we could come to some reasonable conclusion". "Now I found out yesterday that now they've changed their minds". "When they found out I wasn't going to lie on you or your ministry,(HE"S ALAMO'S HERO), they had a change of heart". "And now they're coming back in a more forceful manner." "I told everyone involved in this, you can take my business, my home, cars but you cant take my soul!" (WHAT A MAN) "They've threaten me with income tax but it'll all go away if I stop going to your church."
Alamo: " We'll get my legal team after them." (HA HA HA)
NOW THE WORLD IS AFTER BUSTER BECAUSE OF TONY. IS'NT THAT CONVENIENT. - PACA |
wilma
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Posted From: 65.35.179.43
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PACA,
Thank you for your unwavering stand against the evil that is TonyAlamo. Although we have never met or spoken to each other I have noticed your posts on Topix.net and appreciate that you are standing up and speaking out for the innocent children that are being so brutally abused both physically and emotionally. It makes people know that there are good, honest, decent people in Fouke. (I'm sure the majority of them are.) Thank you for joining voices with the former members to alert the citizens of his evil crimes perpetrated using God's name. Tony Alamo is the worst kind of evil.
God bless you!
susieg |
pacanfouke
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You are very welcomed Susie. If any of ya'll are close to Arkansas please contact Alan through the yahoo site. There's something I'd like you to know about. |
raining
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Posted From: 69.106.186.255
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If I was Buster I wouldn't let Tony's legal team help me. Tony did spend 6 years in prison! |
bystander
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Please forgive me, but I must vent a little frustration here. No Stopping Me, my email is messed up or I would have sent this to you instead of posting here. I can receive but not send so...till I get it fixed, let me use this board.
Last night was the Fouke city council meeting. Our mayor told the council that he would like to have a website for the city of Fouke. He wanted the site to post news about Fouke, upcoming events, etc. When he presented the idea to the council, Ben Edwards objected. He complained that the website would just become another blog site for people to slander them and their pastor.
Needless to say, the councilmen who always vote with him, helped defeat the request and Fouke will not be getting a website. How ridiculous is that?
Alamo's men now bring their security guards to the council meetings with them. There were 3 of them there last night. They don't go inside, they just hang around outside and watch. What in the world do they expect us to do? Do they honestly think we are going to assault one of them? Give me a break. |
brother_d
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Posted From: 67.34.244.18
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Maybe you should consider bringing the "Board of Education" with you just to keep them guessing. They obviously know what it's for! |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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Maybe the guards are in case someone really would try to talk to Ben about the realities of his present day foundaton or give him a printout of the testimonies. If he has any conscience left he would have to split. Amen. Bill Wilde. |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 152.163.101.14
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There isn't any talking to Ben one on one. There is always one of the other followers by him except when he's sitting at the table. He use to be seen driving his truck by himself but that hasn't happened lately. I agree with Bystander. What they expecting us to do? They must really think we are stupid , which we certainly are not. The guards are overstepping their bounderies. It will not go unchallenged. |
saved_21570
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Posted From: 172.129.97.17
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How opposite of Christ. He walked into the Temple, into the middle of the same people who sought to kill him, and preached the good news of the kingdom of heaven.
These, followers of Tony Alamo, walk in fear and dread, with bodyguards, no less. They fear people who wish them no physical harm. They only want to protect their children and community, from the manipulations of a sexual deviant |
mixter1
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Posted From: 71.134.87.44
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Hi,
I left the foundation 17 years ago. I knew I had
better go before Susan died and Tone took power or I would never get out. I hear he has bodyguards and exe con associate pastor. Does he have a Militia also? |
bystander
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Posted From: 207.171.211.31
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Mixter,
Before all this stuff hit the fan, I was driving by one day and admired the flowers they have planted along the road. I decided to drive up Circle Drive to see if the flowers went all the way. I had no idea they had blocked the road off and there was no outlet. Before I could get turned around a man stepped out of a pickup truck carrying a rifle and wanted to know what I was doing up there. I drove away as quickly as I could. However, if you mention guns to Buster White or any of the others they will tell you they don't even allow their children to have water guns. They insist there are no guns on the place.
Buster said I was lying about seeing a man with a gun. This happened long before Alamo hired the security guards. My guess is yes, Alamo does have a militia. |
smitty
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Posted From: 71.102.155.42
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Maybe Tony has the guards there to watch Buster and Ben.... |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Article in today's gazette. Don't know if this will work, but here goes/image |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Ok That didn't work. Anyone know how to attach a jpg image? |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Never mind. Read it here for yourself:
http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/opinions/2007/07/18/opinions1.php |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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This IS the article:
The stretch of new highway between Texarkana and Doddridge, Ark., that will one day—hopefully before we are all dead and buried—become Interstate 49, pretty much bypasses the little town of Fouke, Ark.
By: - - Published: 07/18/2007
The stretch of new highway between Texarkana and Doddridge, Ark., that will one day—hopefully before we are all dead and buried—become Interstate 49, pretty much bypasses the little town of Fouke, Ark.
It seems the Fouke City Council hopes the Information Superhighway will bypass their town as well.
Fouke Mayor Terry Purvis thought it would be a good idea for the city to have a Website in order to post public notices, meeting schedules and other information for the city’s residents.
The site would be part of the state Internet site and wouldn’t cost Fouke a dime. Purvis thought it would be a great way to communicate with the citizens and perhaps open up city government a bit.
Sounds like a good idea, right?
Well, not to the Fouke City Council.
At their meeting Thursday, council members voted unanimously to send the Website proposal into the great good night.
Why?
The main reason for the council’s opposition seems to be some remarkably thin skins.
Council members are afraid the site could lead to blogs or other public postings that could criticize or even insult, belittle or demean council members.
Horror of horrors. Ordinary citizens being allowed to criticize high officials? The first step on the road to total anarchy.
The mayor tried to make those oh so sensitive Fouke public servants understand the Website would not allow the public to make additions or leave messages and would be for the city to give out information to the public.
But the council members weren’t having any of that.
After all, one pointed out, a lot of people in Fouke don’t have computers.
Well, maybe some on the council don’t have computers, but we aren’t so sure the people of Fouke are quite so far behind the rest of America as that council member suggests.
In fact, we are quite sure many people in Fouke not only have computers but understand them and know very well how to use them. And some of these residents might want to know what’s going on with their city government. A Website would be a good way for city officials to get the word out.
But apparently the Fouke council members can see no good reason for giving the people any more access than they currently have.
It’s pretty sad when a City Council is so scared of their own citizens they refuse to make every effort to keep government open and available.
There is an old saying in politics: If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Holding elected office is an invitation to public scrutiny and, yes, criticism, including insults. That’s just the way it is. And it’s the way it should be.
Officials know that going in. They can’t expect to change the rules once they get elected.
Sounds like there is a good reason for the people of Fouke to set up those blogs and post information about their council members and what they are up to.
Any governmental entity that wants to minimize its exposure to the public needs to be scrutinized closely and constantly |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 64.12.117.76
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What is not mentioned in the above article since it was a editoial is names. Ben Edwards was the one yelling "foul". He said people would post lies and slander about him and his church. Can you believe that? There was no amount of explaining that got through to him that there would be no comment section to the city's web site. What a dummy. 3 council members were not there so he got it thrown out because of his "friends". If they only knew. |
no_stoppin_me
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Posted From: 72.242.140.218
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It should scare the hell out of the citizens of Fouke, that someone is on their city council that can bring "their church" into any city proposal. I'm not just talking about Alamo either.
TA is the one who always says "we have nothing to hide, come get me!" So what's up Ben???
Can't the residents take up a petition and over-rule the council? |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Tony's Radio broadcast after the last Fouke Council Meeting, last week: THis was posted by PACA on Topix ( words in parenthesis are PACA's insertions)
IN ALAMO'S OWN WORDS:
Program # 424
(he starts with)
"All the different prophets have been called liars by liars". "These people that are slanderers, that slander people in the ministry wont sign their names to anything they're saying". "I only come out in defense". "They turn it around and make it look like I'm the one who's a slanderer". "Oh my, why wont the wicked repent
"They say we're trying to take over this little burg (?) of a town". "The Vatican is what keeps saying these things". "They think that if they keep saying these things ,people will believe them".(that's what you do Tony) "God is going to destroy you". "I'm trying to warn you people". "What can I do to steady His hand against you unless you repent"?
"God says He's gonna cut off all you evil doers". "In the Jewish language, cut off means kill ya". "You're coming against the bride of Christ". "These are new accusations from this town over here".(no they're not)
"A bunch of Vaticanites"! "God says he gonna kill em, and he does". "God have mercy on that Pentecostal minister, he dropped dead 3 or 4 times".(how many times you going to tell that Tony?) "We may look little but when you come against us, you're waking a sleeping giant, and this giant isn't sleeping anymore".
"Before I was saved I might of joined up with you and went against people , but I wouldn't have gone out and try to kill them, like you people do".(???)
"I dont know any of these people who are saying these things about us". (you dont know your ex members, judges & prosecuters you've faced?) "They dont know anything about us at all, I've never met em".
"They say we're trying to build a motel".(that's the plans you made) "That land they say we want to build on is for sale". (is that the land you cleared and got a $17,000 fine from the EPA?) "I dont intend to build anything more in this Demonic, hillbilly town ok".(like we'd believe that) "We got bigger fish to fry, there's more souls in New York and Los Angeles". "If you people want to buy up the property that we got, just come up with the green stuff ".(we'll just wait till they raid you again and you abandon it) - PACA |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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Well, Fouke is finally getting it's own website. After the veto last month, some of the council members reconsidered thanks to Mayor Terry not letting it die. From the brief post here, you can see who was still AGAINST it (Ben).
Fouke council reconsiders and approves Website
By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 08/15/2007
FOUKE, Ark.—The idea of a Website for the City of Fouke was reconsidered and the Fouke City Council approved it by a 6-2 vote. A “public outcry” for a Website to provide information about Fouke helped to persuade the council to reconsider the idea, said Fouke Mayor Terry Purvis. In July, the council tabled the ordinance authorizing the creation of a city Internet Website. At that time, the vote was unanimous to cancel the proposal. However, last Thursday during the council meeting, Fouke Councilman Lenton Clements made a motion to reconsider the Website proposal. The ordinance authorizes the creation of a city Internet Website and designates it as an additional place for posting notice of city council meeting agendas and adopted ordinances.
The ordinance says the mayor will have a Website created at no expense to the city. Council members voting for the Website were T.O. Hardin, James Sanders, Philip McFerrin, Betty Upton, Roger Mixon and Clements. Voting against the Website were Cody Williams and Ben Edwards. Edwards said he thought the proposal was “dead” after the vote in July. Purvis said the proposal could be reconsidered any time the council w... |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 64.12.117.202
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I think after the council seen there was going to be a web site that they didn't approve of , like was suggested by the Gazette, they changed their minds. Of course Ben whipped out another threatening letter. The rest of In His Own Words is posted on pg 20 of Topix's blog "Are the People on the Hill Headed for Hell" if you want to read more of what Alamo thinks of us. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.25
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BREAKING NEWS!
Some of you may be aware of this already. To others, this will be something new. Should be interesting reading.
The Southern Poverty Law Center will be doing a featured article on
the Tony Alamo Ministries coming out the first of October in their
magazine. Some of their articles have been picked up by CNN news. It
should be interesting reading. It will tell of the concerns of Fouke
residents and ex members on Alamo's abuse of children. |
worm_can_opener
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Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 69.150.73.22
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Alan,
that sounds very promising !! seems as if an article of that nature could open tremendous doors of exposure, to the horrendous sins of the world pedophile !! wouldn't that be something ?? I, for one, have been lying in wait, for one long time now, to be given the opportunity to speak up against him, and his sick life style. |
modesto
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Posted From: 70.134.75.110
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You go girl!!!! |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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I'm sure by now that everyone here has seen posts from pacanfouke. PACA is a person, and now an organization. They are making sure the people in Fouke and surrounding communities are educated about Alamo. This is a copy of some data that they recently uncovered concerning Leslie(Buster) White, the associate world pastor of the Alamo Church. Several months ago his (tony's) business called the Great American Outlet Mall, was raided by the FBI ( the real one, NOT the poster here (LOL)). Tony had NO problem talking about the raid on one of his radio broadcasts. This is the outcome that they recently uncovered:
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
United States Attorney John L. Ratcliffe
Eastern District of Texas
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2007 PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER
WWW.USDOJ.GOV/USAO/TXE
FEDERAL GRAND JURY RETURNS INDICTMENTS
IN THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
Federal Charges Include Drug Violations and Counterfeit Goods
TYLER, TX—United States Attorney John L. Ratcliffe announced that a federal grand jury has returned indictments today charging seven individuals in separate cases of federal violations in the Eastern District of Texas.
LESLIE RAY WHITE, 57, of Texarkana, was indicted on charges of trafficking in counterfeited goods and trafficking in counterfeit labels. If convicted, White could receive up to 20 years in federal prison and a fine of up to $2 million for Count 1 and up to five years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine on Count 2.
The indictment alleges that the Defendant is charged with trafficking in counterfeit Nike shoes and counterfeit labels affixed to copyrighted CDs. This case is being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Alan Jackson.
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Distributed by : Partnered Against Cult Activity P.O. Box 1655 Texarkana, Tx 75504 |
dyann
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 12.72.149.122
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Hey AlanB
Would that Assistant US Attorney be the now famous Alan Jackson who successfully got rape by coercion conviction slapped on the now famous FLDS leader Warren Jeffs?
(just wondering) |
dyann
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 12.72.149.122
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Exellent Thread ~ expositor  |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.149.122
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This just in, hot off the Associated Press Wire!
Fla. Law Toughens Sex-Crime Penalties
Monday, October 01, 2007
By TRAVIS REED, Associated Press Writer
ORLANDO, Fla. — Florida's sex predator penalties became among the nation's toughest Monday as a new law took effect tripling maximum sentences to 15 years for soliciting minors for sex and possessing child pornography.
The law also requires offenders to register e-mail and instant message handles with authorities. That information will be shared with social networking sites like Myspace.com.
"It's going to give all of us the tools to be able to make sure that not only do we enforce laws like this, but that Florida becomes known as a place that if you are a child predator or if you are a child pornographer ... there's only one place for you and that's behind bars," state Attorney General Bill McCollum said.
McCollum spoke on the Orange County Courthouse steps, joined by four county sheriffs and other law enforcement officers. The first-term attorney general has made child sex crimes one of his top priorities, pushing for the legislation and getting money to expand the state's cybercrime unit from five to 50 investigators.
The Legislature passed the sex crime bill last session, and Gov. Charlie Crist signed it in June.
Previously, prosecutors could pursue sentences of only five years for trying to meet a child for sex or possessing more than 10 child pornography images.
Increased penalties are provided for "grooming" _ or posing as a youth to gain a child's trust _ and particularly heinous pornography with victims under 5 years old, sadomasochistic abuse, •••••••••• and sexual battery. Promotion or distribution of those images is punishable by up to 30 years in jail.
The law reclassifies possession of child pornography as a second-degree felony, while promotion and distribution becomes first-degree.
Florida ranks fourth in the country in child pornography on computers, the Federal Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force determined. According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, about one in seven children nationally are sexually solicited online.
Child porn images "are beyond anything you can possibly imagine, and they're not pictures. They're actually people," said Maureen Horkan, head of the attorney general's cybercrime unit. "They're small children being damaged and wounded and miserably taken advantage of."
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Oh darn, another state that will be looking for Tony Bazzar Gantry with renewed fervor! |
alanb
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Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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So what's everyones guess. Will Buster show up for court tomorrow?. Has he been spirited and hidden away by Tony for fear Buster will tell all about Tony ( the FBI told Buster they can make his life easier if he gives up Tony). Did Tony drop Buster like a hot potatoe and let him take the rap with no fear of esposure. Have they ALL gone into hiding. Time will tell
Stay tuned for tomorrows update |
dyann
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Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 12.72.150.147
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AMEN ~~ What SG said above.
THANKS PACA!
...oh, and you too Alan ;-) |
worm_can_opener
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Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.132.194.74
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 7:54 pm: |
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"buster-brown-nose-white" should have NEVER hooked up with the world pedophile !! bad move. |
heynow
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 71.130.208.124
| | Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 1:32 am: |
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Buster White. Hmmm this sounds interesting |
alanb
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Post Number: 208
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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Sent to me by PACA. Alamo is DENYING that Buster is his associate pastor. Called the Gazette this morning, after reading the article and denied Busters involvement with the church, only as a member.
Federal grand jury indicts minister
Allegations involve trafficking in counterfeit Nike shoes & music CD's
"He is being railroaded because he goes to my church," said Alamo. During appearances before the Fouke City Council meetings, White has been referred to as the associate pastor of Tony Alamo Ministries. However, Alamo said White was "just a member" of the ministries. If convicted White could receive a maximum of 20 years in federal prison and a fine of $2 million for trafficking in counterfeit goods. And another 5 years in federal prison and $250,000 for trafficking in counterfeit labels.
Then the paper goes on to tell about the radio broadcast and that Alamo said in a phone interview with them, that White was being railroaded because he goes to Alamo's church. And that it'll all go away if White will make false accusations against him. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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Texarkana update-
Buster DID show up. 3 news vans outside. He wouldn't talk to any reporters. Paca told one reporter to ask him, when he came out, how he felt about Wolrd Pastor Tony Alamo denying that Buster was his associate pastor.
Courtroom emptying as we speak. Back with update soon |
alanb
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In honor of Busters Court Appearance, Bill has done another video chat with TA. It is being uploaded to YouTube now. Will post the link when available |
razzor9
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Posted From: 70.136.152.130
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I look for some local AR & TX TV stations to see if they stream their news on the internet, but was unable to find any. Does anyone know of any TV stations in that area that stream their broadcast. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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____________UPDATE_______________
One of Busters lawyers, left the courthouse, got in Busters car, and drove it away, to a house in a ritzy part of town. A while later, Buster exited the courthouse with at least 4 more lawyers surrounding him ( one was a woman of Asian decent) They would not allow reporters to ask any questions, and quickly escorted Buster to a black Tahoe (OMG is this OJ all over) and they left for parts unknown, at least for now. Will know more later |
smitty
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Posted From: 71.102.155.42
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Hmmm.Might have to look for a black Tahoe to show up at #5 or #7 in the next day or so.... |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.151.44
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Smitty... It seems they have a propensity for those black SUV's.. Tony Soprano in real life  |
smitty
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Yeah, black always was Tony's favorite color |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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It matches his soul. One must color coordinate you know! |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Yeah, instead of having a heart, he's got a black hole there.
Here's a Jude scripture for ya Tone, written just for people like you.
"Raging waves of the sea, FOAMING OUT THEIR OWN SHAME; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the BLACKNESS of darkness for ever."
You'll be surrounded by your favorite color. |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.243.165.58
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also matches his COLD BLACK HEART |
dyann
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Arkansas Attorney General, Dustin McDaniel stands on a soapbox here.
I pray to God his children aren't ever abused while he twiddles his thumbs at the babies in his State who suffer at his turning away.
http://www.fox16.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ebf4f0f9-1462-46fb-a166-1c71010b5255&rss=315 |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 64.12.117.202
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ya'll might try these numbers to see if theres a stream you can watch it on. KSLA 800-444-5752, KTAL 903-334-0285, KTBS 870-773-5827.
Now KTAL came down to Fouke after the court was out. They set up across the street from church. Guy came ask them if they were broke down. They set up cameras and a few minutes after, they said small children were led out of church , some waving at them , and around to back of building. The news crew knew it was all for show. I saw a motor home leaving compound as I came into town but we think its Marty and Anna Moans. I am not on the news. So dont get your hopes all up. Some of the group is and were interviewed. I did tell them to ask Buster what he thought about Alamo denying that he was associate pastor. The Judge, (a lady ha) told him, make 1 mistake, even a parking ticket , you'll be in jail. Jim Williamson is the newspaper man who talked by phone to Alamo. I ask if he said where he was and he did not. With children being made to come outside, he's probably in Fouke. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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Nothing on KTAL |
alanb
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NO vids on any of the new sites. Maybe tomorrow? |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 64.12.117.202
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KTAL showed Buster at 5 here . They are going to do "the church behing the church" at 6 tonight. |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.152.52
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Awww, poor Paca.. been a long day?
You sound tired 
Put the TVO on and get some rest.
You've had a long day. |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 205.188.117.202
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Yea you can tell when I'm tired. I cant spell. The 6 o'clock showing was good. It told alot about Tony's history. It also gave "PACA" their first publicity. It did show the kids and even some looking back and running away into the trees. It looked strange. It showed Sherry's red head again. I told her, stay off the TV. But she and her sister both did good. I would imagine we may never see Buster at another council meeting. WE got a bet going about that. |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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No more pencils no more books
No more Busters one armed gooks |
jackrussell
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Posted From: 70.126.185.30
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Bada bing, bada boom
godfather Tonys' got his earners,
separated on many crews,
but the squeeze is in on the courtroom,
As Whites' go to jailhouse blues.
Stands to reason, could be first of many
facin' some real doom and gloom,
cause they listen to the preachin' pedophile
and now is time to pay those dues.
Only thing now is to hand over papa Tony
'fore Tony turns on you like slime,
'cause this is the froward way,
of his disorganized crime.
brought to u by, Dewey Cheatum & Howe |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 64.12.117.202
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Jack- That needs repeating on Topix Fouke & Texarkana Forums for all the local yokels. |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 70.243.165.58
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Jack...
that was fabulous, you are so creative !!!! I never made it in the poetry department.
Can Opener |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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Ok
This is what I know at present.
The judge in Busters Trial, a woman, did release him on his own recognisance ?. Probably because he is well known, has a beautiful home, a wife and children, and she did not consider him a flight risk. She did tell him, in front of everyone in the room, that if his name pops up for ANYTHING, even a traffic violation, his a$$ would be in jail so fast his head would spin. A trial date was set. Will post the date later.
When Buster took off with his lawyers, the Tahoe, took off in the same direction as Busters Lincoln, which was driven off by another lawyer a little earlier, and taken to a house in a very ritzy part of town.
The story did make the news lastr night at 5 and 6. Hoping to find someone who recorded it, and will try to get it up on Youtube for all to see |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 205.188.117.202
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The paper today listed pre-traial hearing as Dec 3rd and trial to start Dec 4th. Judge Caroline Craven is her name. It only listed 2 lawyers names Greg Henry from Texarkana and David Botsford from Austin. I did tape the news on a VCR. I know that's the old way but if Alan knows what to do with it , I'll send it to him. |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.151.210
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Thanks Paca, putting it on my calander of "Who to Persue" |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.152.239
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Back to the top |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.151.116
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PACA
For additional information, U.S. Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., will have office hours in Miller County on Wednesday to assist local residents with issues related to the federal government. office at 1-800-223-2220.
[wheres the REAL JUSTICE
United States
HOW CAN THE AUTHORITIES CONTINUE TO IGNORE ALL THE COMPLAINTS?
Whose attention has to be gotten in order to bring national awarness to the ongoing physical battery and sexual abuse of children that for years continues to be promoted and practiced at the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries by the group's ex-con leader Tony Alamo?
WE NEED SOME REAL HELP FOR THESE DEFENCELESS CHILDREN.
Is there no one in authority willing to step up to the plate and take this raping pedophile on? ]
They're too busy kissing babies and shaking sweaty palms, RJ.
It's election year, remember?
But maybe they'll wake up when the OUTSIDE World questions them about the goings on in Miller County.
The above post was found this morning in the Texarcana Gazette |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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I think the moderator has finally done it. He is gone, along with both names. I have been told that there is no way to block an IP, so he might be back, probably WILL be, but I let the moderator know that we will forward new names to him as fast as they appear.
Now back to the real reason for this site! |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.151.116
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Oh that's a buncha bull. You CAN block an entire IP, but you might not want to if the server is say like AOL!
If they just have a rinky-•••• server on a T-1 with an ATARI platform, you could do it easily.
Yes Alan, I know... stay en-pointe |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.151.116
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•••••••? I can't say rinky (dynk) What?
I've said way worse and it didn't edit me! *LOL*
(Message edited by dyann on October 09, 2007) |
pacanfouke
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Posted From: 205.188.117.202
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Well, I think I'll see if PACA can get an appointment to see ole Mike tomorrow. |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.150.85
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That post was from last week PACA; Oct 2, 2007. I'm not sure if the 800 number is still valid, praying.
You are the Best |
alanb
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Posted From: 71.43.101.22
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Donations are now being accepted by P.A.C.A. to help in the cost of literature printing and distribution. They are trying to get out a lot of literature to the people around the Texarkana area before the trial> Any help will be greatly appreciated. Send to:
Partnered Against Cult Activity (PACA)
P.O. Box 1655
Texarkana, TX. 75504 |
alanb
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Well, Buster DID NOT show up at last night's council meeting. Wonder what that means....... |
dyann
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Posted From: 12.72.149.183
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He probably caught a fast boat to Cuba.
Or maybe he's sleepiing with the fishes. |
alanb
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Now why would you want to go poison innocent fishes? I thought you were NICE! (LOL) |
jackrussell
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Posted From: 70.126.185.30
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To pick up another boat load of Nikes. He gotta sell a lot to pay Dewey, Cheatum & Howe. |
alanb
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Posted From: 97.76.45.50
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Well, today is P.A.C.A,'s first fundraiser being held in Texarkana, right down the road from one of Buster's business'. Copies of the mazagine and literature are being distributed to the people in Texarkana. I hear busines and donations have been brisk. All food and beverage was donated by - Coke - pretty cool huh! |
alanb
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Posted From: 97.76.45.50
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Well, today is P.A.C.A,'s first fundraiser being held in Texarkana, right down the road from one of Buster's business'. Copies of the magazine and other literature is being distributed to the people in Texarkana. I hear business and donations have been brisk. All food and beverage was donated by - Coke - pretty cool huh! |
jackrussell
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Posted From: 70.126.185.30
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Expositor started this thread, bet he had no idea what it would turn into, lol. The Alamo supporters, and outside antagonists/agitators are rather short lived due to the fact they have the same foot in mouth disease as TA. And the truth keeps posting on, long after they have taken their noise and scurried away! |
alanb
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Posted From: 97.76.44.82
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PACA asked me to post this from Factnet. Anything in ( ) is PACA's comments:
In Buster's Own Words- video taped Oct 2006 City Council Meeting:
"Hello everybody." "My name is Buster White and I'm proud to say I'm the CO-Pastor (what'd he say), of the Tony Alamo ministries here in Fouke Arkansas." "We've had many many many accusations, we've had unbased lies told about our pastor and in one form or the other the persecution has continued." "We've had deflamation of character and malious slander upon our pastor." "This doesn't go undefended for ever." "We have documented (you mean keep a record)of many many people we've helped in this community." "I know this to be a fact, that there were some people taken to other churches in this community where they didn't receive the assistance they were in need of." "We believe in showing our faith by our works" (and bragging about it so it seems). "I'm a Christian of 3 years and 4 months." "I've attended this church nightly." "I became the CO-PASTOR (what?) of it about a year or a year and a half after I was there." (that had to be a slap in the face to Sweat, Edwards, & Krants)
"We've held special events." (that include what?). "I personally invited 92 of my friends in Texarkana." "Now there's those such as Jimmy Dale Gladden, believe he was born and raised right here in Fouke Arkansas." "He came to it." "He's been a friend of mine for 20 years." "Jimmy Lynn Gladden, Mark Gladden, Johnny Goodson of the law firm has been to 3 special events at our church." (what makes them special) "Business owners like Joe Oliver that owns CATTLEMENS STEAK HOUSE and many others that's shared a meal with us." "If anyone wanted to talk to them today, they'd have nothing but good things to say about our ministries." ( I'm impressed, how about ya'll?)
"We've never been run out of a city we've been in." (Alma?) "I received salvation supernaturally." (so did Tony) "We don't fight evil with evil, we fight evil with good." ( he's stealing Tony's words). "As citizens of the United States of America, we have the right to be here." (Tony said :Program # 242:
"There is no United States of America anymore because we willingly and knowingly placed ourselves with the Roman Empire".)
Audience:" those guards you got up there, are they to keep people in or out?"
Buster : " I own my own house in Texarkana on Pine Street. I come and go every night here. My wife and I have been the co-host of the Democratic committee for quite a while now. There is nobody in this ministry held against their will. They come and go as they please. We hired the security cause we'd been threatened."
Audience : " Do they have guns?"
Buster: " THEY HAVE GUNS. WE HAVE GUNS" (now deny it) |
saved_21570
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Posted From: 72.148.187.22
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Thank You, PACA!
Tony Alamo is used to lying and then having someone erase the tapes, so he could deny it.
If Buster has the mindset of most of the people there, he is probably blaming all the confusion on the people in between him and Tony. What he doesn't realize is, in private Tony is now calling him a weasel and a devil. Tony is denying that he ever said he was CO-Pastor or anything similar, and all the people around him are nodding their heads saying, "Amen, Tony".
PACA - Keep up the good work. It is the simple truth, and their own words, that will end Tony Alamo's reign of madness. |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.210.41
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Regarding the CO-Pastor title, I watched a video of Buster at a council meeting and he used the term "associate" pastor. I was at the outfit for many years and I can't remember tony giving any such title of associate or CO pastor to anyone. I am suprised Buster got these titles. I wonder what the folks still at the outfit think about that. Keep in mind there are some that have been there 10 - 35 years. They have not achieved a; "CO-pastor", "associate pastor". or "pastor-in-training" title in all those years. If you are reading this and are still in the alamo outfit you really should give this some serious thought. Also, I believe God will bless the faithful with spiritul blessings and blessings here on this earth. If you are in the foundation you have NO economic blessing increase. I believe this is unscriptual. When you post on the board you can write what you believe. I am writing now so, I am writing what I believe. In order to live a scriptural life you must pack up and leave. If you would like to discuss anything I have written, feel free to post and I will gladly discuss it with you.
Peace,
Heynow |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.210.41
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No, you won't go to hell if you post on this board. Yes, you can post anonymously. |
wild_dream
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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Unfortunately those remaining at the outfit would'nt know what to do if they did leave. The ones I know of still there are of below average intellegence. The smarter ones left many moons ago. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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The smarter ones left many moons ago. And the smartest ones left before Susie died. Get over it bunky, bunkies, you were duped, as I was, although the Lord was still doing work with a much less than perfect church into the later l980's. Thank God that he has revealed the complete and total truth now. |
open_mind
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Posted From: 70.178.128.46
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tony has announced buster white co-pastor many many times,and on many tapes and radio brodcasts,he always talkes about him,and told every one to treat him as the pastor,like when pharoh made joseph second in command to the kingdom of egypt,and busters only known tony for 3 years or less,so if tony said that buster is not co-pastor or any such thing hes lying. |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.210.41
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Thanks Wild dream, I just want to add some thoughts here. It seems most all current foundation members are a tad frightened to speak their mind. I believe there are quite a few reading this board. However, most (if not all) will not post here. They realize tony will probably kick them out. Think about this. Let's say Billy Graham or Roger Mahoney is your pastor. Would they care if you post on an internet board? No, of course not. Why would tony care? Food for thought, huh?
Wild dream, The church was packed at 9AM. I am not sure if it was because of daylight saving time or what. Was there a big crowd in the afternoon? |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.210.41
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Openmind, Seems a little rough. A guy shows up and after three years he is CO-pastor. What do all those folks think after 30 plus years? They weren't even promoted to junior pastor. To weird. Would any current members enlighten me on this subject? |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.210.41
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Oh yes I forgot to add. It is okay to post here. If tony kicks you out for posting here just email me thizizit@hotmail.com and explain what happened. Also, I betcha we could all throw in a little something to get you started in this here free environment. Modesto already mentioned he has a place for you to stay for awhile until you get a job and so forth. Never forget we are here to help. |
open_mind
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Username: open_mind
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Posted From: 70.178.128.46
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there have been questions asked to tonie regarding buster being the co-pastor as soon as he comes into the ministery,i dont understand it myself but a lot of people who had been there 30+ years have gotten in trouble for asking that question.tonie now believes that he and buster may be gods two wittnesses,after years of him preaching that sue would raise from the dead and they would be the two wittnesses. |
wild_dream
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Post Number: 180
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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heynow, actually we went at 11:00 and I thought we might see you. It was full beyond capacity. People have the Holy Ghost, that's what I look for, to me it's the "proff in the pudding". In regard to "getting over it" (the foundation), I believe everyone on this board is over it, reading the facts as presented on this board has helped us get over it, it's like Christian "therapy". |
wilma
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Post Number: 639
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Posted From: 72.185.141.125
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Open_mind,
can you tell us more about tony saying or alluding to Buster possibly being one of the two witnesses. That's the first time I ever heard that.
someone told me that tony again recently said he (tony) was one of the two witnesses on his radio broadcast.
doesn't that just beat all? that God would chose a pedophile, adulterer, thief, liar, egomaniac, child abuser, selfish, woman-hater as one of the two witnesses?
The true living God would not do that for sure!
Is there any chance that any of the people in there are wising up to the horrors of tony alamo?
susieg |
wild_dream
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Username: wild_dream
Post Number: 181
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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Something that used to perplex me was why did'nt I ever get to see or hear the strongest brothers and sisters speak over the pulpit. I know many of them had much annointing and deep knowledge of God but were hardly ever allowed to speak. I never once got to hear Rob Sweat over the pulpit. I heard Becky Laroach and Jeannie Sweat once or twice, and they had alot of the deep things of God to share, but they were almost never allowed to speak also. Of course I don't know Buster, but if the same pattern exists it's like Alamo embraces some of the worst ones as his "heavies". It's like he feels threatened by the strong Christisns, obviously. |
pobox398
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Posted From: 75.66.235.106
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open_mind posted:
"tonie now believes that he and buster may be gods two wittnesses"
Now that's got to take the cake...
Someone please give that chimp(ta) a cigar!
[did you know chimps can be very mean spirited flesh eaters?]...cp |
anchored
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Posted From: 71.205.65.52
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Open_mind: you said,
"tonie now believes that he and buster may be gods two wittnesses."
Just curious, was that on one of his radio broadcasts? Were those his exact words?
I believe it is very possible that he said that since he changes with the wind. Whatever suits his delusional mind at the time is what comes out of his mouth. If he is at a loss for words, the devil is right there to fill him in.
I was reading a Proverb this morning that describes A-lame-o perfectly.
Prov. Chap. 5
Vs 3. For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, her mouth is smoother than oil:
Vs 4. But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword (TA's tongue)
Vs 5. Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
Vs 6. Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are MOVEABLE (always changing), that thou canst not know them.
Vs 8. REMOVE THY WAY FAR FROM HER, AND COME NOT NIGH THE DOOR OF HER HOUSE.
Carolyn, Are you sure it's chimp, or bad monkey? LOL
In any event, I hope the cigar has a fuse in the end. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to offer him a light. |
open_mind
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Posted From: 70.178.128.46
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i dont remember if it was on tape,or if he said it in a service,but if its on tape its a 1 to 2 year old tape,i just remember him saying that he and buster are gods two witnesses,but he said buster like he wasnt sure if it was gonna be buster or sue his late wife. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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A friend recently told me, "Marrying Tony was the biggest mistake Sue ever made." |
heynow
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Posted From: 71.130.210.41
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tony and buster the two witnesses???
Sounds bizzare. Anyway, I remember tony explaining why he believed the two witnesses must be a married couple. Here goes with the best of my memory: the spirit of Elijah and Enoch will be on the two witnesses. Elijah saw death because the spirit of Elijah was on John the Babtist and John the Babtist saw death. However Enoch has never seen death. Hence a married couple are joined as one flesh then the spirit of Enoch will be on the (married couple) two witnesses.
Yep, I heard tony say all this. Sooooooooo nowwwwwwwwwww he is saying it's him and Buster??????? Too weird I tell ya.
Wild, Sorry I missed you. Must have been at least a thousand people there at 9:00. A far cry from the early 90's when there were only about a dozen. The pastor preached Hell a few weeks ago. If that dosen't decrease a congegation I don't know what will. It seems just the oposite is happening. There was an alter call and at least ten people came. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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I never met Sue but from all I've ever heard, I have to agree with another friend who said, "Sue was the one who people loved." |
jackrussell
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Posted From: 70.126.185.30
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It should have been the Lord they loved, not some egotistical, raspy voiced, self elevated con woman who looked down her nose at most everyone and everything....my 2 cents..and yes I have met her, and she spoke. I was not so impressed, especially after the full realization of her self elevation.
And Mac and Cp, do we have to have a spelling seminar again? It is spelled chump! Which Tony sure is. Websters defines chump as a dupe and a fool. He tried to create an atmosphere of chumpdom or dupedom, and it worked on us all for awhile, but now the chump has fallen into his own trap that he has laid for others, as he is somehow convinced of himself that he is spiritually special, a virtual right hand man. Instead, his own deception paints him not as 'world pastor' but perhaps as 'world king kong pastor chump!'
Websters' unabridged goes on to explain that 'chump' is the linguistic combo of 'chunk' and 'lump.' Will let you all use your own imaginations, but this has just got to be vintage Tony Alamo, a defining word for the visual appearance of the ministering pedophile, not really better known as Tony Alamo, and not really better known as bernie hoffman, and not really better known at all, except, later on, in obscurity, but best known, not at all....... |
saved_21570
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Posted From: 72.148.187.22
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Well, If Tony said the two wittnesses had to married, I have to wonder if maybe...
..The worst mistake Buster made was marrying Tony? |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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I heard April is going to the Phillipines, maybe you should sigh up. |
modesto
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Posted From: 76.209.129.147
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Tony and Buster are an item? My my!And after all that ranting about "known homosexuals".(Joe McCarthy?"Commies"?).
Well, Tony has certainly run the gamut of sexual experimentation.What in the world will be next? |
jackrussell
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Posted From: 70.126.185.30
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Hand signed, but later, autographed TA tie dye shirts?? |
wilma
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Posted From: 72.185.141.125
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Wilddream,
in regard to your comments above about "getting over it". As long as you continue to carry on the idolizing of susan alamo you are not "over it".
She was as much a player in the conning of young people as Tony. Yes, she was not a pedophile or sexual predator...I will give her credit for that.
But she perverted the gospel of Jesus Christ for her own gain and ego. She exploited us, our youth, our labor, our naivete.
She and Tony plotted against us for their own selfish ambition.
What part of that don't you understand???
Susieg |
modesto
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Posted From: 76.209.129.147
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I remember Tony used to give bitter messages about how he did some advertising for "Big Brothers",he used to practically spit the name out.He was outraged because,according to him, it was sometimes used as a front for homosexual pedophilia.He was filled with "holy" wrath over this child molestation business.What happened? |
anchored
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Yes you are so right on Susie G, and one of the evidences of that was how they exalted themselves way up on a pedestal as God's right hand people (Ha, what a joke) and always kept us in a subordinate position way below them and referred us to outsiders as a bunch of ex-drug addicts, dopers, losers, bunch of bums living on the streets who would have never amounted to anything and making it look like we were totally dependent on them and could never have made it without them.
They would always brag to the media how they (T&S) were our saviors and we were all vagabonds living under freeways and how they took us in and clothed us and fed us or else we would've ended up dead or in mental institutions or prisons. Yet they never told them that WE were their bread and butter. We brought home the bacon, so to speak,, and they fed us the crumbs and the scraps while they lived sumptuously in the lap of luxury. Yeah, they never mentioned that to any of the media or outsiders, visiting Christians, etc. They never mentioned to them how many times we needed medical or dental attention and got none. I am a victim of that myself, so don't anyone come in here and try and say otherwise.
Is that how God treats his people??? I think not. They were so totally unscriptural it was pathetic. God said we (the laborers) are worthy of our hire. We are to tithe 10% and the rest is to be ours. That is totally scriptural!!!
Those two scammers never went without anything, including lavish foods and clothes, houses, living quarters (hotels/motels), limos, cars, vans, motor homes, jewelry, furs, the best kitchen utensils, carpeting, draperies, wall hangings, the most expensive appliances, furniture and on and on. Susie had expensive fruits (strawberries) and vegetables, imported from New Zealand all the time.
Nothing but the best for them for years and years and ALL at the expense of us and our hard labors and the denying of ourselves. Then they TURNED AROUND AND CALLED US (THE BODY OF CHRIST) lazy devils, weasels, cur dogs, n***ers, lazy Mexicans, old devils, a**holes, etc., ALWAYS BLAMING US for anything that went wrong, even blamed us for cancer and death. It's a wonder they didn't (or maybe they did) blame us for lousy weather, earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, snow storms and maybe it was our fault that the sun rises and goes down.
Yes, they both perverted and exploited the gospel of Jesus Christ to their own gain. It was Jesus they offended, and they have their reward.
I just want to say that I thank God every day that he delivered me from that hell hole years ago. He restored me, showed me how much He loves me, gave me life more abundantly and has blessed me every day and I still have my salvation and my Lord, and I made it in life without them. Glory to God! |
modesto
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Posted From: 76.209.129.147
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Is it true Tony was Buster's cellie when he was in the joint? |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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wilma, I tend to agree with you and anchored that she was a con artist too, I've thought that too for a long time now, since I started reading fact net. I never said that I said she was the one that people loved. This hillbilly friend of mine said that, I just reported it. Maybe early on do you think people loved her, what do you think about early on, wilma? I don't really know at what point things went bad, I was'nt there so I don't know. There obviously was a great move of God, outpouring of the spirit, and souls being saved. I think bernie led her astry, all his lust for limos, furs, being a big shot, a high roller, the high life. As my hillbilly friend said also, "she was just a hillbilly", unedjucated, somewhat ignorant. I don't think she started off having to play the phoney part of being some kind of worldly big shot, she learned that from bernie. There's a country song that I think says it, "bright lights, big city went to my baby's head". When the money came in from bakes, they fell away, according to the scripture, Matthew 13:5-7, "Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them." That's what happened to bernie and sue, those scriptures are basically the "ballad of bernie and sue". I believe the testimoniies on this board that bernie and sue both became con artists. There have been some on this board who, myself included, who believe they were both of the Lord early on, but fell away; Ian, Tom A., and C.P., to mention a few. Maybe they loved sue at one time {and maybe even bernie}, before bernie and sue backslid. I don't hate them, I hate the evil they did. I don't hate anyone, I have the love of God, and treasure that above all else. As long as some of these sinners are alive they have a chance to repent, Mr. bush, Mr. pope, Mr. rockafeller, Mr. bernie, etc., let them know the treasures of God are of more value than anything in this world, God is no respector of persons, anyone can come to God, whomsoever will. wild d |
wilma
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Posted From: 72.185.141.125
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Wild_dream,
bill, I appreciate the discussion. Exactly what lay in the heart of tony and sue when they started the TSACF probably none of us will ever know for sure on this side of eternity (which is a drag).
Susie's own daughter, Chris, who was married to Ed Mick at the time, left the group in late 1971 because she saw the hypocrisy and knew it was a con even then. She also testified that Tony raped her when he was supposedly a young Christian.
From a 1993 newspaper article:
"Susan Alamo’s daughter, Christhiaon Coie, 42, testified that her stepfather [tony alamo] raped her in 1966, when she was 16. She had not seen him since leaving his house in 1971, she said."
They beat and threatened her life when she left. How's that for Christian love?
Below is what she just recently posted on the SPLC blog about Tony alamo.
Christhiaon Coie said,
on October 31st, 2007 at 11:22 am
Thank you for the wonderful article about Alamo. I spent the better part of my life fighting my mother and Tony. I tried and tried to get law enforcement to lock him up and throw away the key. We managed to get him some prison time for the tax fraud. Attorney Charles Karr of Fort Smith Arkansas had the courage to fight this monster for me and the Court made him bring her body back and bury her like a human being. She was my mother. Even after all the horrible things she did, I still love her. She gave me life. Had Charles Karr not taken my case, I would have never been able to force him [Alamo] to bury her. Mr. Karr is wonderful decent man and I will go to my grave in his debt. As far as the one hundred thousand dollar judgment, I have never seen a dime of it. I wasn’t looking for money. If anyone ever deserved that money, it was my babies–my precious girls. They paid for my fight with their childhoods and security. I was so busy demanding justice for other peoples’ kids, my kids were drafted into a fight they should have never had to see, hear or ever know about. I doubt anyone in the Alamo cult will ever see this. But if you do, take your babies and run. Don’t hand your baby girls over to that filthy old reprobate. You’re not serving God—you’re serving a psychotic. Tony calls himself a man of God. Forgive me, but I think before you get to be much of anything you must first be a man (or woman)–that will be something he will never achieve. He’s a liar. A snake oil salesman. He trades in human suffering and punishment. Think of him as Osama, minus the dialysis machine in tow. He’s a whore for power and money. He uses his band of “I’m off my psychotic meds followers” to do his dirty deeds. It breaks my heart that he’s still slithering through the world. Momma and Tony have destroyed so many lives. It’s truly shameful. I’m so proud of Susan, who contributed to this article and all the young brave people who have the guts to stand up to the Alamos of the world. I also want to thank the Southern Poverty Law Center for their years of brilliant work.
Respectfully,
Christhiaon Coie |
modesto
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Chris told me personally she heard conversations between Tony and Sue saying they could make a fortune off the "Hippies in Hollywood", and this, she said, was long before Carlos Ave. started up. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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Wilma and Modesto, thank you for the exortation, I really appreciate it. As cp said it once, our understanding of the overall picture continues to grow and get clearer all the time. It seems to me God is helping this process along for sure, and perhaps when no stone is left unturned, justice will be served. |
wild_dream
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Posted From: 76.172.220.122
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Wilma and Modesto, thank you for the exortation, I really appreciate it. As cp said it once, our understanding of the overall picture continues to grow and get clearer all the time. It seems to me God is helping this process along for sure, and perhaps when no stone is left unturned, justice will be served. |
bystander
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Posted From: 207.171.208.94
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Just wanted to allow Alamo to show his true colors again.
In his own words..."You don't like the way I talk? You know, so many people tell me that. The Lord told me to just be myself because He said, you know the Word. You know it better than anyone. You're all that I have and so I just talk the way I do because the Lord likes me. Okay? And if your a fornicator, He don't like you. Alright? Does that make you jealous? Too bad...too bad. You're not me...and thank God I'm not you."
Puffed up comes to mind. |
worm_can_opener
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Posted From: 69.148.199.160
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LOL, the Lord has never told anyone to "just be themselves" we are to abide in God's word, keep his commandments, preach the word, walk uprightly before him, be holy in body and mind. That reprobate. I myself HATE the way he talks, all that cussing, and all those put-downs, coming out of that filthy mouth; "you pukes, you jerk-waters, you older devils, you stupid idiots, etc. He's the worst kind of fornicator,also, because everything he does is supposedly "in the name of Jesus" you know,like raping 9 year olds, in the name of Jesus (Jesus loves children, and took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them !) screaming at the people who serve God (Jesus was meek, humble, and lowly, not arrogant, he came to save people, not destroy them. When he told the Scribes and Pharisees their stories, it was not said to discourage them, but to show them how far away from God they were, replacing God's commandments with the traditions of the elders) tony alamo hates more people than we could count, lashing out at individuals and organizations with unbridled rage (Jesus told us the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance) tony alamo cusses, and calls people cuss words (Jesus tells us to have sound speech, that cannot be condemned) tony alamo steals from the poor (Jesus tells us to give to the poor, to help the poor) tony lies, and has been doing a lot of lying for many years) Jesus has warned us, that no liar is going to enter into the kingdom of Heaven. tony knows the word of God,probably as well as the devil, alright, but just like the devil, he uses it to deceive and hoodwink people, to get monetary gain for himself, to trick young girls into joining his corrupt harem of female children, teens and women. He uses the title of "world pastor" on his supposed "gospel tracts" (which are just a long rant of self-exaltation and glorification)
If anyone in his corrupt "compound of sin" is reading this, recognize tony for his real self, not the fake, fabricated facade he hides behind.
WAKE UP AND GET A LIFE !!!! |
modesto
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Post Number: 342
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Posted From: 76.209.129.147
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I personally believe most if not all the people in the compound recognize Tony for his real self already,but they are either too used to their way of living,too frightened that if they act on what they know in their heart of hearts is true about Tony, they might somehow be wrong and go to Hell or are thinking they'll somehow be able to snatch a piece of the pie, either after Tony dies or before.Probably some sick combination of some or all of the above.That,to all the folks still there, is your strong delusion,the lie you believe.Get out now,while there's still hope and seek God's forgiveness for the part you have played in all this. |
redeemed_9131970
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Posted From: 75.66.235.106
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Thank you so much, Claudia, for revealing sparkling, crystal clear so many of the reasons continued loyal adherence to tony alamo’s (per)version of Godly living is purely a complete and total sham.
John, your take on the prevailing mindset, that many who still continue to remain, may be cursed with, rings true, too.
The Lord Jesus Christ offers life and life more abundantly, not just in the Kingdom of Heaven but on this side of eternity as well. God’s peace is a precious commodity; man can’t give it, and money can’t buy it. It took the blood of His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to purchase it. Pray tell, how can tony continue to seemingly delude any of them into willfully exchanging that Holy, blood-purchased peace for his cursed bag of perverted tricks and all its torment?
There’s just no way that anyone still in full possession of their God-given mental faculties can honestly say the life they live (hmmm… please allow me to rephrase that more accurately) the death they die, under the harsh and bitter lifestyle of tony alamo, is one of moderate abundance or even joy and peace within. The human condition that is fostered and promoted at ‘Tony’s Place’ has always been a Spartan existence at best, a hellacious experience at worst – God’s grace was forced away a very, very, long time ago.
Can any abiding at ‘Tony’s Place’ sincerely deny any of the above?
Why spend the remainder of your woe-begotten days thanklessly suffering and worse yet causing your precious and trusting children to suffer under tony’s ever increasing criminal perversities only to be rewarded by spending eternity burning in hell. Where’s the promised glory in that path? Plainly, there is none!
The Lord Jesus Christ beckons you:
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
We all know what tony teaches against through that scripture. But for the sake of your eternal souls, ‘To thine own self be true’ because that scripture is and always has been much broader than tony’s narrow minded self-serving interpretation.
It’s time you take heed to that still small voice that mercifully gives you no rest in the night, no peace in your soul: Tony himself (and all who will continue to follow him) qualifies to be included in that unholy horde found in the 18th chapter of Revelations.
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear! While you still can, gather your children and flee that cursed place.
Carolyn Pryor – Redeemed: 9/13/1970 – aka: pobox398
pobox_398@yahoo.com
ronnie@oil4yourlamp.org |
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