| Author | Message | ||
     Anonymous |
It seems that the school system likes to cram a certain ideology down the throats of teachers and students. Even the mainstreaming of special education students is meant to enforce some silly notion of equality. As a former teacher I felt like I was forced to believe and teach things that were in addition to my core content of knowledge. Political correctness is enforced and teachers have little control over this. Principals and superintendents are often controlling and trying to enforce political correctness instead of educational attainment. That is why I feel that the school system is a cult. | ||
| Anonymous |
I substitute teach. Have for several years. I told a friend, "Education in America is like a fundamentalist religion". Meaning, there are people who will tell you, straight-faced, the equivalent of, "The sky is green and the moon is orange". You know, the kids are bad and it's the teacher's fault. BS. And: we strive for equality of education. When in reality, they segregate the poor kids into schools, where the disruptive kids ruin it for the rest. And those schools cannot boot those kids out. While the upper class kids go to better schools, and if one is disruptive, they'll be booted out. Even teachers believe it. I oppose giving tax dollars to private schools; that's un-American and subversive. But public education IS like a fundamentalist religion. | ||
| olska |
Here's a book you might find interesting: The Night Is Dark and I Am Far From Home. Sorry I don't recall the author but I'll try to look it up and get back to you. Might give you some insight into how things got to be the way you describe. | ||
| olska |
Back again. The author is Jonathan Kozol, and he's written a lot of books. I've only read the one, but it completely changed my attitude about public education in this country. Available at amazon.com, maybe elsewhere. | ||
| no one special |
you know i was thinking about how in elementary school, students are for more or less biding their time between "recesses", which is to say unwittingly accustoming themselves to a schedule of structure, which loosely interpreted could mean programming of standards... hmmm the organization of factnet in itself can be a cult in itself... so don't do anything about what you think feel know or sense, find others with similar opinions and have at it... last man standing is king of the hill and gets to give orders at sole discretion... don't forget the victory gin... is the time right to address social security numbers in social studies..? | ||
| Anonymous |
This thread lacks clarity. Good schools and good teachers impart knowledge and skills and nurture individual growth and encourage questioning minds. I teach in the UK. Sure you teach core values such as respect and tolerance and you need a structure to the day. however the students are all individuals and are encouraged to be so. | ||
| Anonymous |
and the individuals who take time (and others attention) away from the present lessons to discuss and debate the value of organized instruction as an institution is forced to endure the "you don't need to know now" for the greater good later? lots of kids learn similar approval/disapproval conditioned responses from the media as well, including fight club, foo fighters, and the internet... | ||
| Anonymous |
While it cannot be classified as a "cult" per se, could a school/curricular department/administration be guilty of using coercive persuasion tactics to effect mind control--unethically? I have reason to believe that YES is the answer. What do YOU think? | ||
| fullofquestions Intermediate Member Username: fullofquestions Post Number: 104 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.57.32.25 |
Lord I apologise, and be with them starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea, Amen. | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
I loved your post, fullofquestions  but i would like to ask anonymous if they think that this theory of mind control is applying to public schools and private schools just wondering | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
Anonymous I think more often than not, this imparting of knowledge is dependent on the desire of the teacher to teach the students, therefore would it not be incumbent upon the teachers to make sure that there students are not, as you said "biding their time"? | ||
| fullofquestions Intermediate Member Username: fullofquestions Post Number: 178 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.57.32.25 |
There definitely is a separation in the social classes and the education the children receive. If you don't believe it, go look at cars pulling into the parking lots at a private school picking up kids. |
