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     gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1888 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
To "aussie_battler" who, on Wednesday April 06, 2006, wrote in condemnation..."Me thinks you should do some research first before you slam this one CDT. I am surprised they don't sue you! This is not Pyramid! Learn the difference my friend before you give hundreds of Battlers out there more sleepless nights! ...... Now read this ....... Canadian Diamond Traders is a pyramid fraud scam pure and simple. The Western Australian Government, for one, with the assistance of materials submitted by our organization has declared it so. After talks with the Attorney General of Maryland a press release was issued warning citizens of a diamond pyramid fraud from Canada scamming U.S. citizens. Those at CDT are spewing lies and deceit and using this deceit to target such vulnerable groups as the deaf community, seniors and students world-wide; even students in high school. The nonsense they spew suggesting that because they are a paid member of the American Chamber of Commerce and "registered by a government-level notary etc., and reviewed by a criminal lawyer and this makes their criminal activity legal, is in fact false and misleading. None of that "colourful "legal" smoke and distorted mirrors" nonsense in anyway legalizes CDT's criminal money laundering activity. CDT is simply defrauding tens of thousands of people in a criminal conspiracy to promote pyramid fraud then laundering the money through a registered business. In the Criminal Code of Canada it clearly states.... "The legitimacy of a business is not a factor to be considered if a part of its operation is a lottery scheme."..... And pyramid fraud schemes are lottery schemes as defined by the Canadian Criminal Code. The misleading nonsense below is from CDT information . Company Information Canadian Diamond Traders (CDT) is registered with The American Chamber of Commerce in Canada (look for us in the members directory among other reputable companies: http://www.amchamcanada.ca/aboutus/members_directory.php The Ontario Management Board of Cabinet (www.gov.on.ca/MBS/english/mbs) -Registered by a government-level notary following a complete review -Business model also reviewed by a criminal lawyer International members may call the Department of Foreign Affairs or Canadian Government to get information about CDT. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1889 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Again for CDT to suggest this legal "mumbo-jumbo" is some way legalizes their criminal fraud is absolutely false and misleading, and reprehensibly misleading tens of thousands into a criminal scam and possibly many young minds into a life of crime. It would appear in the evidence and discussions I have had with the American Chamber of Commerce (AmCham) that this organization could care less what scams or crooks join their organization "riding their coattails" and scamming students as long as the crooks pay their fees to AmCham. The American Chamber of Commerce affiliated with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and all their "Fortune 500" companies by allowing illegal scams and crooks to join their organization and use their names, are indeed responsible for carrying these frauds, like viruses, from Canada into countries from the U.S. and Russia to South Africa and world wide. Canadian Diamond Traders is essentially the same fraud as "The Mother of all Pyramid Frauds" "Women Empowering Women", (again from Canada); a 4 tier (1-2-4-8) illegal pyramid structure also copied by Treasure Traders International and Business in Motion both of these scams also from Canada, with their near worthless emeralds thinly masking their "colourful smoke and distorted mirrors" scam and now Canadian Diamond Traders is doing likewise with diamonds. So close are the two schemes that earlier this year TTI was in Court suing CDT. What a joke. Criminals suing criminals in the civil courts. All this of course because our corrupted Canadian Government and the RCMP refuse to enforce the law and close them down before they have amassed huge illegal money laundering fortunes and can then afford to turn our civil court system into a "three ring circus." (the Christians, the Cops and the Crooks). There does exist however, good judges that are doing what is in their power to prevent the civil courts from becoming "unwitting accomplices" to crime and I quote Judge Quigley of The Ontario Superior Court...... November 30, 2006. "This court cannot, through a request for injunctive relief brought on totally unsatisfactory affidavit evidence, permit itself to become an unwitting accomplice upholding against fair criticism a "business" that at least prima facie appears and may well be found at trial to constitute an illegal activity specifically sanctioned by provisions of both the Competition Act and the Criminal Code" Now, in an attempt bolster your argument and to ridicule me, "aussie_battler" you aggressively wrote "I am surprised they don't sue you!" | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1890 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
And I say to you, ..... I don't think they have the guts. That includes CDT, their unethical lawyers, AmCham and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and their affiliates. And that is billions of dollars in combined power against an impecunious pensioner. They simple don't have the guts!!! Go figure!!! Exposed by a pensioner (once called "demented" by a lawyer in the court house in Richmond Hill On.). A pensioner with what he claims is the truth; the only defense he has, and they, claiming "he makes up this stuff" haven't the guts to have their claims tested in court. A pensioner no less, with a only grade 10 formal education that has great difficulty even spelling without the help of the computer. So I guess the computer, it can be said, has helped immensely in "leveling the playing field" in the quest for justice by allowing ordinary citizens to mount legible and comprehedable attacks on sophisticated criminals, their lawyers, corrupt government, politicians and police, and their educated and meticulous supporters sympathizers. CDT, and any or ALL of those just mentioned that I have defamed could easily sue and attempt to get an injunction to close my website as was attempted by Treasure Traders International in their $10,000,000 defamation suit against me. That turned out badly for TTI when the argument I submitted was able to convince, with solid evidence, a Superior Court Judge, that prima facie, essentially, TTI is the same scam as "WEW" with the only irrelevant difference, is that TTI, as previously pointed out, uses gemstones as a very "colourful smoke and distorted mirrors" game to thinly disguise a criminal pyramid fraud scheme. In conclusion and in answer to your fear, "aussie_battler" as you wrote.... "This is not Pyramid! Learn the difference my friend before you give hundreds of Battlers out there more sleepless nights!"...... I say this; CDT is a criminal pyramid fraud and, I sincerely hope I have indeed given you crooks many sleepless nights and more to come. And further, I challenge any one of you, or all of you, including the huge CDT corporation crooks, their corrupt lawyers (counseling a criminal scam) etc., AmCham, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and anyone else I have managed to defame and/or your whole group of thousands of CDT "affiliates" to each pool $10 into a huge massive legal fund and try to successfully sue me. You have an immense mountain of evidence of defamation, all I can do is cling to is the law and what I see as the truth in an attempt to prove, once again that an "individual clinging to the law can withstand the ravishes of criminals and giant corrupt bureaucracy." (N.Y. State v. Corra Walker 1963). Now, my only defense is that unconscionable crooks are engaged in a criminal conspiracy to commit and promote a criminal scheme misleading students, seniors, the deaf community world-wide, the financially unsophisticated and others, and may I add, since you refer to me as "friend", .... I choose my friends and I can assure you; you are not among them. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1891 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Now, ask your exalted leader of Canadian Diamond Traders .... why a vast viable business claiming to be legally sustainable would allow itself to be defamed by an individual who operates a world-wide non profit scam organization that has, by the very complaints of at least one huge leading gem stone organization, TTI, caused them irreparable damage, .... And I quote from the TTI's whining affidavit and the court's decision .... ".... the reputation and business of the Plaintiffs have suffered. The Plaintiffs have received hundreds of inquiries to date from their affiliates, employees, agents and distributors questioning the business of the plaintiffs." (whine whine).... and the court .... @ [7] "As a result of Thornton's actions, TTI and BIM claim that their reputations have suffered. specifically, they state that sales have significantly decreased. They state as well that Thornton appears to have intentionally made the defamatory statements that are attributed to him in order to interfere with the applicants' contractual relations with their customers and distributors and to cause the applicants, TTI and BIM, to suffer damages." .... (really???!!!) And I am doing the same to CDT and as a result have also caused, and am causing CDT immense and irreparable harm. But they don't sue!!! I have even made CDT case of defamation and vast and irreparable damages for them, and also you, their distributors. You need not even prove it. You have it all on a proverbial "silver platter" The cost of a law suit is infinitesimal to, and far outweighs the huge losses being suffered by CDT by my continual attacks on CDT and those affiliated with them. If nothing else surly you want the satisfaction of silencing this nemesis. This should be a simple corporate decision. Now, If nothing is done through the courts by CDT or anyone to counter my attacks so you distributors can get on with your, as you call it "legal" business I would seriously question your corporate head office and the legitimacy of their scam. FYI, this is what the Judge wrote in his decision with respect to proof of damages re: TTI....... @ [18] "In the present circumstances, TTI and BIM assert a claim for damages of $10,000,000 for defamation interference with economic relations. I observe that there is no evidence or other material advanced on this injunction motion that would appear to provide any real support for a damages claim of that magnitude"...... The judge went on however, to note "..... Thornton may have caused irreparable harm to the TTI and BIM businesses. Indeed it is admitted by the respondent that that is exactly the result his actions were intended to have. I am thus prepared to assume for the purposes of this motion that irreparable harm has been caused by Thornton, principally because, apart from evidentiary deficiencies of the material put before the court by the plaintiffs, Thornton himself effectively acknowledges that he hopes he has caused them irreparable harm." | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1892 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Now, If CDT is truly different than the criminal TTI scam, and is, as you insist, not a criminal scam, than "tell it to the Judge" and you, or any of you should have little problem succeeding were TTI and BIM failed by shutting down our website with an injunction and saddling me with a crippling debt I will never be able, at my age, to ever "climb out from under." So, knowledgeable one, I put it to you; put up, or shut up and continue to suffer the damage to your unconscionable criminal scam. And take note, this very posting, which I will swear if you wish was written and posted by me, is more than enough to construct a prima facie suit for defamation and damages. I can even draw up the statement of claim for you. And if I had lots of money as you people do I would even pay the filing fees. So, here I am, warning you that I have, and will continue do the same damage to your corrupt criminal pyramid fraud as we did to TTI and BIM. So SUE ME you certainly have the money; but the situation then begs the question, have you got the "GUTS???" (That's the lower language of a grade 10 drop out. The "upper crust" would, of course, espouse "intestinal fortitude"). Nonetheless, I dare you!!! You may wish to peruse the 18 page Judgment of the Ontario Superior Court on our website at www.crimebustersnow.com David John Thornton ...President www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatioc.ca 905-963-3389 24/7 We return your calls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide (including Australia) and we help as many as we can world wide, to avoid being ripped off by unconscionable criminal scammers like CDT. p.s. I wish a Happy Christmas and hope those who have been blinded will, with new found compassion, see. There are many because of pyramid fraud, with damaged or destroyed family relationships, damaged friendships and thousands of dollars in losses and in debt who will not. dave | ||
| bruce_audley Intermediate Member Username: bruce_audley Post Number: 290 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 142.59.179.3 |
Everyone always knew that when "Treasure Traders International Co." was eventually consumed by nothing greater then the mathmatics required to sustain any pyramid selling operation, that something bigger, better, meaner and greedier, would be waiting just around the corner. Emeralds, diamonds, gold, palladium, it's all the same. You pay some money (called investing), you sign up more below you (called marketing and hard work), and you sit back and await your riches. So simple and to think it all sounds so easy! Okay, your down-line needs to be stacked with your loved ones and friends but you can always sleep better at night knowing that they are going to be rich right beside you. And don't forget, you can always end up with a nice little loose diamond that you can nestle next to the stuff you purchased through the other pyramid schemes. The "C.D.T." diamonds will look wonderful set with all of the "T.T.I.Co." loose emeralds that are floating around out there in the market place for only pennies on their purchased dollars! For all those that have already decided that this pyramid marketing operation is completely legitimate for no other reason then who or what started it and the name of the supposed gemological appraisal that comes with it, there is a saying and it goes something like, "A fool and his money (hang, I can't recall the rest of it!)..." Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night! | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1893 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
But, it is illegal and it is punishable in law. The law is supposed to protect the unwitting victims, and society as a whole, even if it inadvertently saves the criminals from themselves. dave | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1894 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
The case cited above (N.Y. State v. Corra Walker 1963) should be (N.Y. - People v. Cora Walker 1964) | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1895 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
FROM THE AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT RE: CDT http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/PARLMENT/hansArt.nsf/V3Key/LA20060921018 David John Thornton ...President www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatioc.ca 905-963-3389 24/7 We return your calls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide (including Australia) and we help as many as we can world wide, to avoid being ripped off by unconscionable criminal scammers like CDT. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1899 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Latest on the prevaricating and misleading Canadian Diamond Traders world-wide. -----Original Message----- From: david thornton [mailto:gatoraid@sympatico.ca] Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2006 3:34 PM To: Karin Bembridge Subject: CDT legal in Ausrtrailia???!!! "The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong." - - Harry Segall Hi Karin This is, to say the least, interesting. It appears on the CDT official website. Please update on this "revelation". dave Australia Safe!: Australians are now safe to promote CDT. Just follow the Guidlines posted on the forum. --------- You will find it under "UGRENT UPDATE" on the CDT official Website. http://www.cdtforever.com/eclipse/cdt/resources/DTP/ Dear David There is no update. Nobody has put out anything that changes the situation as was previously advised. To my knowledge, CDT is still illegally operating. Regards Karin Bembridge Compliance Officer Retail and Service Industries Branch Department of Consumer and Employment Protection 221 St Georges Terrace PERTH WA 6000 Tel (08) 9282 0639 Fax (08) 9282 0862 | ||
| bruce_audley Intermediate Member Username: bruce_audley Post Number: 291 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 142.59.179.3 |
Under "Live Presentations" on the C.D.T. website (Helpful tips on inviting people to the presentation), there exists the ironies of all ironies. In their effort to blatantly suggest that their obvious pyramid program is something special, they glibly state, "Make sure to mention it is not MLM or Direct Sales!". So where is the irony? In attempting to make their program appear acceptable, they ask the particpants to NOT state that it is one of two perfectly legal marketing concepts. MLM and Direct Marketing are perfectly acceptable and legal business platforms and yet the handlers at C.D.T. are requesting that they NOT be considered either one of these. The sad thing is, this business is a pyramid selling operation that WILL crash and burn, just as so many others have. There is only one thing keeping it going and that is new investors willing to drag in more new investors. Once the flow of money stops, C.D.T. goes with the wind to find a new name and product, and you can bet your last dollar that they probabaly already have it half constructed already. Meanwhile, the so called investors are left with over appraised diamonds for which there is absolutley NO resale market! Calling this a business opportunity is the same as calling the "Titanic" unsinkable! And the end results in both examples are exactly the same. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1974 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Bruce wrote: "There is only one thing keeping it going and that is new investors willing to drag in more new investors." dave at CrimeBustersNow says "That's illegal in this country" and there exists a far more potent and important thing keeping CDT going and that is corrupt, week kneed officials sucking up millions in taxpayer's dollars refusing to carry out their mandate to enforce laws on illegal pyramid selling in this country so as a result thousands now in the deaf culture all over the world, and students are being targeted by a corrupt corporation stating they are legal because they are registered by the "Ontario Management Board of Cabinet" and also legal because they purchased a membership in another corrupted organization the American Chamber of Commerce, and they have been reviewed by a nameless criminal (and it might be added corrupt) lawyer. David John Thornton ...President www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatioc.ca 905-963-3389 24/7 We return your calls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide (including Australia) and we help as many as we can world wide, to avoid being ripped off by unconscionable criminal scammers like CDT. | ||
| bruce_audley Intermediate Member Username: bruce_audley Post Number: 297 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 142.59.179.3 |
"Dave" - But your bizarre protests that this is all driven by "week (sp) kneed officials sucking up millions in taxpayer's dollars" and NOT the poor little innocent investors, misses the mark by such a wide margin that your position no longer makes sense. Salivating investors were tripping over themselves to sink their money into all of the past pyramids and they will do the same here unless society can find a way to encourage solid enforcement of the law BEFORE and not AFTER these companies come and go. Bruce | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1977 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Sorry Bruce it is you who solidly miss the point. I am not talking about the Salivating investors, I am talking about their victims, who genuinely don't know the difference between a legal investment, and an illegal "business opportunity" (scam) that these dirty filthy corrupt cops, politicians, prosecutors, lawyers and church ministers, teachers are telling them it is a businesses opportunity with worthwhile rewards if you are a good sales person and work at it. You are a jeweler and considered an upstanding member of your community as far as I have ascertained. You “rub shoulders” with top officials, police and members of respected service clubs. I wouldn’t be surprised that you would be a member of the BBB, Chamber of Commerce and a litany of service clubs and charitable organizations. Now with all that credibility and a jewelry business are you trying to tell me that if you approached your nephews, nieces, and even waitresses, and checkout girls, school kids etc., and brought them to your business, showed them your diamonds, and gemstones and with your command of the language and debating skills used the same pitch this reprehensible Canadian Diamond Traders uses, that you could not only convince them to join but convince their parents to let them, with a guarantee that if they followed “your plan” that made you successful they could pay their tuition, buy a car etc. You could even take them up in an impressive plane; drive them to the airport in a beautiful new vehicle, even a rented latest convertible sports car if you don't own one. Of course you could. Others with a quarter of your intelligence and one tenth of your finesse are doing it. Should you legally be allowed to do that; to be the “shark” just because you can? We at CrimeBusterNow don't think so, and we have the laws to prove you do not have the legal right to even try. If authorities in Canada would have taken the advice of the World Bank (IMF) in 1998 and asked organizations like ours to help identify these crooks and close them down immediately with high fines, which are in fact written in our laws, we would not have the problem we have today with hundreds of these frauds now maturing with billions in enormous losses going to organized and now wealthy influential criminals. Wait and see the deal Kippax makes with his illegal millions and the Corrupt Attorney General’s Office of this Province in his alleged racing accident. Hell the former mayor of Toronto’s wife, while he was in office, blatantly stole a $155 dollar pair of designers pants, admitted it, and her husband threatened, with the “F” word to kill a reporter, neither one was even charged. I guess by your criteria theft and directly threatening to kill some one are not criminal offences. Now, I have an absolute workable plan that would stop these frauds within a few months, and hopefully in the next few months we can implement it. We could have done it much sooner if authorities would have cooperated and I were not being harassed, threatened and assaulted by police and government officials who seem “hell bent” to "ram these pyramid frauds down the public's throat” by refusing to enforce the law then harassing, threatening, assaulting and prosecuting, with perjured evidence, those victims who speak out. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1979 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
Pyramid fraud in this country is absolutely illegal. Yet it's rampant as even you admit. That includes TTI, BIM, CDT, Departure Central, Flight "36" and the rest. You still miss that point by an “Alberta country mile.” Would you listen to a legal opinion from lawyer if I could post one? You reject the opinion of an RCMP investigator who has put it on the record. No RCMP officer has put on the record that TTI is legal. Niether have the anonymous friends you say gave you the advice you are “hanging your hat and credibility on.” You reject the finding of an Ontario Superior Judge. All we are left with is Bruce Audley stubbornly clinging to TTI’s over appraised emerald claiming this magically makes a pyramid fraud “perfectly legal.” Sit back a minute Bruce and ponder how stubbornly ridiculous that position is considering the facts and the recent developments. David John Thornton ...President www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatioc.ca 905-963-3389 24/7 We return your calls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide (including Australia) and we help as many as we can world wide, to avoid being ripped off by unconscionable criminal scammers like WEW, TTI, BIM & CDT. We now pay rewards for the identity of top pyramid scammers. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1980 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
And BTW Bruce did you read the 18 page decision of the Ontario Superior Court Judge? I believe this is at least the third time I asked you that. And there are world-wide organizations that take a much different approach to my work and do not see my work as "bizarre protests." Including the repected Robert FitzPatrick whose published views are much different than yours. My work is also being used by the deaf community to warn others. http://www.worldwidewarning.net/www/ http://www.worldwidewarning.net/www/crimebustersnow/ You could have been such an huge asset on this side Bruce, but you must stubornly cling to that near worthless emerald, and now a diamond. dave | ||
| bruce_audley Intermediate Member Username: bruce_audley Post Number: 298 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 142.59.179.3 |
But you doth protest too hard! You entirely miss the point that I am against these types of businesses. I am hardly all that you painted me to be however; I did try everything within my power to dissuade those around me to NOT invest. I am being candid here when I tell you that for all my efforts, I only manged to turn a few away. The vast majority could no longer hear and had their eyes solidly fixated on the chest of gold. These are bright people and still they raced to the front of the line! They are not blamless innocents in this issue, they were willing participants. Until such time as the Canadian government decides to enforce the laws against these types of pyramid operations BEFORE they start rolling, my only recourse is to attempt to explain the many pitfalls and stand back and watch the stampede. So that you can stop asking, I have not read the document you continually refer to as it has no interest to me. I must admit that I have court documents of my own from back in November that I have no intention of reading. Everything that I needed to know was understood by all in the court room that very same day. Re-reading the judge's decision after the fact serves the sum total of zero benefit. Ergo, I have a pile of other current documents that I will need to address that for my personally are of far greater relevance than the record of someone else's day in a far away courtroom a long time ago. Bruce | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1981 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.38.117.34 |
But you continually miss my point Bruce. You keep telling these people that you are trying to dissuade, that these frauds are “a perfectly legal business.” Then you tell them, I suppose, as you have written on this board “get in and out quickly” and you wonder why you cannot dissuade but a few. I have, on the other hand, told them the truth all over the internet and on the street, in front of high schools universities, churches, the Toronto Dominion Bank involved in illegal money laundering, etc., and as result thousands have backed away from these frauds as was admitted by just TTI, attempting to sue for those damages. And like the pyramid scheme itself these individulas, and institutions are exponentially carrying the truth of my massage world-wide; from my views posted by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, to blogs world-wide. These frauds are illegal in Canada!!! Pure and simple! And you, contrary to a the ruling of a Superior Court Judge which you seem to have nothing but contempt for, and it does not interest you in the least as you wrote, declare to the world that all these scams we have attacked on this board are “perfectly legal” and all you offer is that Bruce Audley on the advice of some corrupt, or stupid officials, or wherever you obtained that ridiculous information said so. Well they are not "perfectly legal" just because an appraiser who has appraised for the RCMP obtains near worthless emeralds and gives them a sky-high appraised value and adds them to an admitted illegal pyramid recruitment scheme and this then purports to be sufficient to negate every law ever written describing pyramid fraud, and every Court precedent, and every judge’s opinion on the disposition of pyramid fraud presented in their respective courts. It is dangerous people like you, in the upper echelon, police, politicians, members of service clubs, and non profit organizations, and charities like Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, Association of Fire Chiefs, Ontario Police Association and the like that twist the provisions of law, invent your own technicalities, and "creative accounting systems to mask fraud" in order to attempt to circumvent law and declare a whole new order well outside the written law. And that is, the law does not apply to you people. In other words “you bunch are above and beyond the reach of the law.” Again the creed of the J.C’s. "The government must be of law, not of man." I have proved my case with the law, not by circumventing it. With regard to your ridiculous argument; and I’ll say it again, a near worthless gemstone cannot legalize and already illegal pyramid fraud. Your argument is void of legal substance and pure common sense. You really are obsessed with the fear of having to reverse your already reversed position at the cost of common sense, your credibility and the lives and savings of people who may believe you; that these frauds are “perfectly legal” when they most assuredly are not!! Can you not stand back, Bruce, and realize how utterly ridiculous your new argument is compared to how intelligent, “right on” and unambiguous your first argument, (that TTI is illegal) was. dave | ||
| bruce_audley Intermediate Member Username: bruce_audley Post Number: 299 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 142.59.179.3 |
I missed the part where "T.T.I.Co" was declared illegal and I am not in reference to "The Law As Wished By David Thornton"! For all your blustering, you were no more successful then I at dissuading people from sinking their funds into "T.T.I.Co."! I am afraid that if you consider me dangerous, you are starting to believe your own press. Rather like you making that huge leap by stating that I am exhibiting contempt for a Superior Court Judge simply because I am not interested in reading YOUR case! Sorry if I laugh but I am just too used to living in the real world to take a stroll down "David's Dark Alley". Here's the real rub for you David and I have no idea why it falls on me to point it out for you. For years you have heaped scorn and ridicule upon our legal system and then suddenly you get a glimmer of understanding from the courts and you turn all giggly faced and begin to cavort around in a simulated dancing jig. "Everyone read the opinion that slighlty favours my point of view!", he shouts from his soap box in the quiet corner of the park. But alas, the people have stopped listening for no simpler reason then they know in the space of a moment, he will turn and attack the very system that he now purports to suddenly favour! Your problem David is that you are going to have to decide once and for all, either you hate our judicial system or you love it. Don't just think that you can saddle on over to our side when your views receive a passing line of support from a Superior Court Judge. Pick a side and stick with it! You may learn to like that approach. As for me, I'm heading on out the door to do the most dangerous thing I can think of and it involves my family and a freshly flooded skating rink. Your arguments and preaching have become tediously boring and while I can see the veins popping in your forehead at this very moment as you pull your keyboard closer to your chest to prepare your onslaught a vicious ranting, I must admit that if you cannot do any better than the above, it is time to give it up. I no longer need to make my case. YOU MAKE IT FOR ME! Bruce | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 2003 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
I have been extremely busy Bruce, and I feel my time right now is better spent doing something positive than composing, as a priority, an answer to someone, who when he can no longer defend the un-defendable puts his family again as a shield against fair comment. I am half way though the answer to your posting above or as you call it diatribe. But in answer to one of your points of "tightening up the law" the lawyer whose company we are suing under Sec. 206 of the C.C.C. has stated to me "you will get nowhere on that argument. That section is so broad and inclusive you could catch the Pope in a criminal act." Ironies of Ironies. The lawyer, who you are not Bruce, claims the law is so broad, far reaching and tight, and like a net could snag anyone even the Pope, that he suggests it would be legally unfair and considered unenforceable by a judge. Go figure. I agree, as I have always maintained that Section 206 of the C.C.C., is basically "air tight" covering any loophole these crooks can come up with. The fault lies with the lazy or corrupted C.A. and the Competition Bureau ignoring the laws they have a responsibility to enforce. So, as I said to this lawyer... "Perhaps that was the intent when this section of the law was carefully written, that it would in fact snarl the Pope himself if he decided to operate a product masked pyramid fraud." And for that matter under the current policy of ignoring the law and the breaches thereof, who's to say he isn't. I have just uncovered more outright illegal gambling in the most unlikely place, and backed by a corporation most, (excluding me of course) would find shocking and difficult to believe, considering the battery of lawyers they retain and probably actually employ full time. Readers may be hearing a lot about in the near future. These frauds are all over the place involving our youth! David John Thornton ...President www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatioc.ca 905-963-3389 24/7 We return your calls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide (including Australia) and we help as many as we can world wide, to avoid being ripped off by unconscionable criminal scammers like CDT. |
