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     gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1917 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
TO HE WHO CALLED HIMSELF "THE_TRUTH" Posted November 24 2005 These gemstones have been taken to other gemstone experts outside of this business, who are familiar with how to measure the value of a gemstone and even they confirmed that the values are legitimate. One of the main reasons behind why this business is still operating legally is because there isn’t a single gemstone expert who can say these gemstones are junk and not worth what they are said to be. If it were that easy, this business would have been shut down long ago. But instead, it continues to operate legally for 2 years and counting Feel free to call me a liar all you want, but let me remind you that regardless of your attempts to contact various government organizations about this business, each and every one of them have not found a single thing illegal about this business and have allowed it to operate without intervention. I mean, that’s why you had to establish CBN…because the government simply isn’t listening to your ridiculous made-up facts. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us with how you managed to come to the conclusion that these gemstones are not valuable...was it the cut?...or maybe the clarity?...or perhaps the colour?...or just maybe, it could just be a crazy old man's opinion who by the way has very little knowledge of gemstones in any. I think I'll go with the last one...final answer! (I'm sure we can all see how far Dave will get with arguments based merely on assumptions) God bless. | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1918 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
POSTED NOVEMBER 25, 2005 You are a liar!!! And by the way your "suck up" buddy the "GREAT I AM" Bruce Audley wrote that a respected jeweller in Calgary told a distressed woman "customer" of TTI, her whole collection of junkgemstones were worth a total of $45 in his opinion. Don't you believe your own buddy? Is their no honour among thieves, or cyber-bullies??? And dozens of packs of “Gemcash” exposed to gem collectors and jewlers all over the world sold on E-Bay for an average of less than 5% of the stated retail value by the Vice President... the #2 crook at TTI. What more do you need LIAR!!! gatordave Now, with regard to your further lying remarks, innuendo, sick twisted elements of truth and irony with respect to my personal life; you were warned to "knock it off". You are again way over the line and I am going to take appropriate action against you and you cyber-bullying friends, as I warned you I would, and as is advised by those who study cyber-bullying. I'm telling you again. Cease and desist. Now!!! You LIAR! Your remarks have a negative impact on members of my family and others. Lies that were started about me, you continue spreading, notwithstanding evidence long ago proving these lies unfounded. Because of these lies and innuendo spread about me, over 40 families have suffered. A 14-year-old child, my step-granddaughter who I love pleading guilty to making death threats. Consider children today, are far more aggressive and reactive, and the phenomenon of young children killing members of their families happening at a rate never before heard of. A mother who vilified her husband until her 10 year old son killed his father. Now, my step-grandchild having been to made to believe that I tried to kill her grandmother, and failing that hired a pig farmer to assassinate her could well have been on trial for murder, her entire life destroyed because of “adults” like you with the mind of vicious cyber-bullying teenager girls incited her to murder. Now, they have a computer and have exposure to what you are writing. There is no Order from the Court that I have been made aware of that I cannot contact her family other than her coerced, intimidated lying grandmother. Coerced and intimidated to lie by a bullying boyfriend and police and vile people especially her lawyer Frederick Wilson of Kincardine. People like you. Not me! This family has been told not to talk to me. The last time I spoke to her dad just after I was released from jail on a false allegation that I threatened rape her grandmother, he said David we don’t know what to believe. I don’t like this Alex Nichols. We love you. He said it over, and over, and over. We love you David. The kids love you. You played Santa Clause for the kids. He recounted our lives together. The next time he said I’m not supposed to talk you. I warned him of this lying manipulator Alex Nichols. He said "He better not ever hurt my mother. I'll take care of him myself." Great. He is a big strong person. He has one arm a hook, and almost blind in one eye, and has a very short temper after years of bullying since he was a kid. I was there to defuse many situations. I am concerned. People like you and Bruce Audley, with your superior manipulating gift of words, poisoned his mind. The sicko lawyer who got his mother involved in the “WEW” pyramid fraud with a motive to destroy me used his position as an educated lawyer to advise the family not to talk with me so they would not hear the truth. My stepson is just a simple not well educated unsophisticated very artistically gifted person easily manipulated as people even far more educated can be by manipulating word twisting liars like you. These kids came to me for advice on drugs when their young cousin became involved (seems like a common denominator here, along with threats). They respected and loved me before these vilifying lies. Now, I have no idea if this child knows or acknowledges the truth of her step-grandfather or if her mind is still poisoned by these vilifying lies. All that is required is the possibility that you further “wind” this child up as you did with the twins that posted here and the that sicko aka "MAKE_7000" and the rest with your poisonous vilifying lies and the results could be terrible. It is recognized by psychologists what horrendous harm vilifying lies of adults or peers can do to children. Now, I know you are attempting to get the same reaction from me as you bullies did last year at Christmas with viciousness and the poll with regard to my sanity. Now, I’m warning you again. “Knock it off.” Cease and desist. David John Thornton | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1919 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
POSTED BY "THE_TRUTH" NOVEMBER 25th 2005 And by the way your "suck up" buddy the "GREAT I AM" Bruce Audley wrote that a respected jeweller in Calgary told a distressed woman "customer" of TTI, her whole collection of junkgemstones were worth a total of $45 in his opinion. Don't you believe your own buddy?" Sure, I believe him...but the key words here are "in his opinion". You see, an opinion is just that. I could say that in my opinion I would never pay more than $100 for a brand new FORD vehicle (my apologies to any FORD owners out there...but that's just MY opinion) but just because these cars have sold for over $20,000, that doesn't mean that they are operating an illegal business as they rip people off. People know the price prior to purchasing and if they agree to follow through with the purchase, they take the risk of their car being F.O.R.D. (Found On Road Dead). Now, one thing that Bruce has also stated many times over is the fact that this business is legal. Despite his attempt to support the shutting down of this business by appearing on national television to comment about what he saw as a pyramid...government officials are unable to shut it down because it continues to follow all network marketing laws. You constantly attack him for supporting these legality claims, but really he’s has done far more than you have to attempt to put this to an end…but it’s just not going to happen. "Don't you believe your own buddy?" This business IS legal whether you choose to accept it or not. God bless. | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1920 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
POSTED DECEMBER 18, 2005 Michael Shibley of Industry Canad is determined that pyramid fraud is going to continue in this country as he steadfastly, belligerently and contemptuously refuses to enforce the law against product based pyramid fraud until all the people at the top have their pockets full, the damage is done, and those that can lest afford it at the bottom are finally scammed. Students, seniors, ethnic groups, single parents, the financial desperate, and the financially unsophisticated. The laws regarding illegal pyramid profit from ”downline” recruitment vis a vis profit from product selling is as clear in Canada Law as it is the U.K. This bureaucrat Michael Shibley responsible for thousands of citizens needlessly losing millions must be removed from one of the most important positions in government. In short he should be fired. From the UK....... “The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry has presented a petition in the High Court to wind up Treasure Traders Corporation Ltd in the public interest. The company operated a 'Pirate Ship' themed pyramid selling scheme. Investors paid £1,200 to sign up and were told to recruit further members of a ship 'crew'. They would move up to the position of 'captain' depending on how many recruits they could enrol. Once the 'ship' had a full crew of eight members they were told to 'sail the high seas searching for gold' by taking a profit share of further investments. In fact, many members of this scheme are receiving no return on their investment. www.crimebustersnow.com | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1921 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
Posted by "SHADOW" on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 3:21 Well Gatordave - your wishes have come true - TTI is closing it's doors Are you happy now?? I hope this will shut you up for good! (Message edited by gatordave on January 13, 2006) | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1922 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
POSTED JANUARY 11 2006 That wasn't wishes that came true. That was damn hard work sending 5-10 emails a minute to the U.K. and around the world and all over Canada. And now you say they are closing!!! Not likely you pyramid freak. From what I understand they are heading for the internet after ripping off thousands of people for millions of dollars just like "WEW". It's easy to tell from your wounded ego and defiance and continual "blaming the victim" and the whistle blower; you still haven't changed you attitude that it's alright to rip off citizens. I don't see any apology here to these thousands including seniors and students who have lost and will lose millions. I image you will be waiting around for the next one the corrupt OPP and RCMP will be promoting and waiting until they all make their huge profits, it falls apart, and then they are "politely" and quietly closed. They will "whitewash" this, then there's Canadian Diamond Investment still running, then probably start another one if they have not already. Same old same old that has been going for years, with the intimidating and harassing of victims with everything from bulling with the entrenched phrase "lame and lazy" to threats of violence and trumped up charges to jail anyone who is willing to seriously oppose them. This isn't just about TTI. This is the pyramid system in Canada. And that IS your pyramid frauds in Canada...... And that is the TRUTH as I have always maintained dave... www.crimrbustersnow.com | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1923 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
Now "BS_TRUTH". So much for your F.O.R.D. nonsense in the above post. And now, with TTI closed down as an illegal pyramid endless recruiting chain in the U.K. and also closed by Friday in Canada, shows you the liar from day one as I always maintained. Doesn't it??? I mean it was you who said if TTI was illegal they would be closed down. My, My they have been closed down as an illegal pyramid fraud. Now that meets your own criteria and from the High Court of England no less. The Court ultimately agreed with the Anti TTI's position I believed any rational thinking person would. I have won many battles before but never backed up by the High Court of England. The secret is to be ON the side of right, not the side of false perception. We were. Now would it be presumptuous of me to assume we won't hear anymore "B.S." arguments and any futher packs of word twisting "brainwashing" lies from you on that subject! "B.S._TWISTED_TRUTH." And the nonsense of your "opinion" of the "value of these green stones", vis a vis the intrinsic real competitive value, again nothing but more of your word twisting lies and "B.S.", insufficient as an excuse of ligitamcy, as you claimed, to stave off the almost immediate closure of the corrupt Treasure Traders International in the U.K. and ironically, and finally in Canada. The closure, only 24 days later while over the holidays with government offices closed. Coincidental??? I don't think so!!! A product does not a pyramid fraud make legal. Another simple truth. Absorb it. "THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHS" Never did! Never will! And now we have to chase his naked butt all over the internet. Strange, the more the centuries pass from the "wealth of wisdom" in that adage, the longer it seems to take for human beings to see that age old logic. Funny, in the story, immediately upon the child stating the obvious, the entire crowd immediately agreed. In this new millennium even the "ministers of the cloth" bigoted and closed minded refuse to acknowledge that "OBVIOUS_TRUTH". Now, is that because a vast group of ordinary citizens is becoming less intelligent or the lairs and scammers like you are becoming far more clever, sophisticated and cunning with words, technology, and hoards of other people's money used to bribe officials, cops and stave off regulations. For those answers we could start another thread of debate. dave ... www.crimebustersnow.com (Message edited by gatordave on January 13, 2006) | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1926 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
TTI CLOSES FRIDAY THE 13th 2006. HOW IRONIC..... AND STILL PROTECTED BY CORRUPT RCMP, OPP, AND LOCAL POLICE AND THE CORRUPTED MICHAEL SHIBLEY OF INDUSTRY CANADA WHO COULD SO SIMPLY HAVE CLOSED THEM DOWN "IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST" AS WAS DONE IN ENGLAND WITHIN FIVE MONTHS, NOT TWO YEARS AND TWO MONTHS AFTER 10's OF THOUSANDS OF VICTIMS WERE STOLEN FROM. U.K VICTIMS WERE APPARENTLY LESS THAN 500. MICHAEL SHIBLEY MUST BE FIRED TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY FROM THE ENDLESS POLICE PROMOTED, POLICE PROTECTED PYRAMID FRAUDS!!! dave.... www.crimebustersnow.com Please, for the sake of this country, your friends and families and the world help us acomplish that. Just ask how. | ||
| tomblagh (tomblagh) New member Username: tomblagh Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 216.94.119.96 |
Hmm, that's funny. I'm part of TTI, which is undergoing some big changes at the moment. I've met people who have made millions off of this. I know them personally. I myself have made a substantial amount off of this 'illegal scam'. Cripes, some people. | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1929 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
Of course, we have never denied that. You made it by defrauding thousands of your fellow citizens out of millions, even victims in universities, colleges, and now even high schools. You pyramid freaks will never get that message until you go to jail for 14 to 40 years as is happening in the U.S. One recent case the promoter received 17 ½ years. He made millions also. That's why he was convicted. His lawyer is facing 30 years for "money laundering". And incidentally it is not funny!!! dave....www.crimebustersnow.com |
