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gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1902
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 1:09 pm: | 
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None of the lines at TTI have live people answering only "leave a message".
Too bad we live in a police controlled society in Canada where the real truth is hidden from the public and enforce by threats, coersion, and trumped up filth at all levels from the RCMP to the local liars
dave www.crimebusters.com We tell you what the Canadian police, Attorney General, BBB, Chamber of Commerce, and the news media suppress for years. |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1903
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |
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We were finally able to get through to TTI. We were told the last meetings will be held Friday. Then they are going to take this abominable pyramid fraud to the internet.
Michael Shibley of Industry Canada has allowed this common criminal Alan Kippax to "milk" ordinary Canadians of millions upon millions of dollars.
This pyramid started at the top as they all did, with government employees, RCMP and family, OPP, officers, firefighters politicians, real estate agents, a vicious person with connections to Allstate Insurance etc., and moved down the "food chain" to the ethnic groups, seniors, the young people in university, college, highschool, the financially unsophisticated,and the financially desperate.
Now once they saturated Canada and move to the internet and solicit U.S. with their extravaganza board and the rest the world, it is the same "Women Empowering Women" "clone" and the same devastating effects as "WEW" perpetrated for approximately four years from 1998 until approximately 2002 with the losses, the intimidation, the threatening etc. etc., the trumped up charges and the filth of the corruption in our police, government and our judiciary feeding on their own citizens.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
real_truth (real_truth)
Intermediate Member
Username: real_truth
Post Number: 432
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.36.155.99
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:32 am: |
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To all-
Good News!!!
http://ttico.com Web site is no more working!!!
Cool!!! |
real_truth (real_truth)
Intermediate Member
Username: real_truth
Post Number: 433
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.36.155.99
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:34 am: |
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To all-
Illegal 2 years ago
Illegal 1 year ago
Illegal yesterday
Still illegal and shut down
Good news!!! |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
Member
Username: capn_blythe
Post Number: 94
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 81.105.46.166
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 7:12 am: |
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I agree it's good news that there will be no new victims......although I have to feel some sympathy for the many victims who will now have no hope of recovering their money..... |
real_truth (real_truth)
Intermediate Member
Username: real_truth
Post Number: 434
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.36.155.99
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 2:49 pm: |
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To Victims-
Let's band together and go with a class action against the directors of TTI.
Contact Dave at http://crimebustersnow.org .
(Message edited by real_truth on January 27, 2006) |
real_truth (real_truth)
Intermediate Member
Username: real_truth
Post Number: 435
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.36.145.226
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 4:44 am: |
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To Victims-
TTI Directors and info:
KIPPAX, ALAN ADMINISTRATEUR
PRÉSIDENT
ACTIONNAIRE MAJORITA
2645, MATHESON BLVD EAST L4W 5S4
MISSISSAUGA (ONTARIO)
CHOO NG, LAI ADMINISTRATEUR
SECRÉTAIRE
2645, MATHESON BLVD EAST L4W 5S4
MISSISSAUGA (ONTARIO)
BROUILLETTE & ASSOCIÉS S.E.N.C.R.L. FONDÉ DE POUVOIR
BUREAU 800 H3A 1X6
1550, RUE METCALFE
MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC)
HAYMAN, JOHN NON MEMBRE DU C.A.
PRINCIPAL DIRIGEANT
2645, MATHESON BLVD EAST L4W 5S4
MISSISSAUGA (ONTARIO)
NOMS DE L'ASSUJETTI
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DATE MAJ INDEX DES NOMS:
NOM DE L'ASSUJETTI DATE DÉBUT DATE FIN STATUT
====================================== ========== ========== ==========
TREASURE TRADERS INTERNATIONAL 2005-05-02 EN VIGUEUR
CORPORATION
-------- VERSIONS ÉTRANGÈRES --------
CORPORATION TREASURE TRADERS
INTERNATIONAL
DOCUMENTS MICROFILMÉS
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TYPE DOCUMENTS DATE CAST IMAGE
===================================================== ========== ===== =======
19 DÉCLARATION MODIFICATIVE 2005-11-22 0 000
19 DÉCLARATION MODIFICATIVE 2005-07-28 6426 20 018
94 DÉCLARATION D'IMMATRICULATION 2005-05-02 6301 13 020 |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
Member
Username: capn_blythe
Post Number: 95
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 81.105.46.166
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 8:15 pm: |
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Any UK Victims........Send A letter to the Official Receiver.....(see the address on the "UK TTI No More link".)........At least you can get SOME money back that way..... |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1470
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 3:48 pm: |
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Hi all. It's been a very busy time.
Victimizing by Kippax has not ceased. Kippax is going about the country “selling” another “load”. He claims (as do many in these collasped frauds) that he is honest and too trusting and that his partners took off with the money, but he has a new internet “business” (another scam)and victims can recover their losses in this venture (fraud).
A meeting was held in Walkerton Ontario. I had an insider attend. I was outside with my bullhorn. Kippax stuck his head around the corner and made it obvious he was making a call on his cell phone. Shortly afterward police arrived. I was treated much differently by police. I was asked politey not use the bullhorn. I pointed out it was Sunday, the shops were closed, I also pointed out that an international criminal was in the hotel scamming what was mostly seniors and people over 50 many from the rual areas. One officer was British. I informed him TTI was closed by the High Court of England and the documents and information were available on our website. He agreed to check it out. They then went in to talk with Kippax.
Because the court offices were closed and no Crown Attorney available I decided not to push the issue with the bullhorn. I had gotten the attention of the victims and police. But this character Kippax is good at his “art”. Believe it or not most of these old dears that were there “swallowed it hook line and sinker.” One lady who appeared over 60 actually came over to me after the meeting cursing and swearing because Kippax was such a nice person who had been taken by unscupulous partners. Now they're convinced their losses will be covered in the new "internet program."
The "presenters" in Walkerton Ontario Sunday January 22, 2006, at 1:30, were David Stewart and his wife from Stoney Creek-Hamilton area. Our investigation has found their son is an the RCMP officer. As an RCMP officer he knows or ought to know money circulating pyramid schemes are illegal in this country. But his family, like so many other cops, the early ones in the fraud, “cleaned up” making 10's of thousands in this police and government employee promoted TTI fraud. (Remember Andrew Kippax is in the government in Manchester England)
dave www.crimebusternow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1471
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |
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Victims do not have to walk away and let this fraud artist and those who abated and abetted him off the hook.
There is recent precedent law in which a London Ontario woman successfully sued for the return of her money. Victims of TTI were lead to believe they were conducting a “perfectly legal” business. Your loss is recoverable.
Crimebusters Now has been in contact with some “heavy-hitters” in the U.S. and around the world who have shown interest in the TTI fraud and our site. If victims will speak out we are confident we can get their support. Many members of the powerful jewelry industry are also disgusted with the actions and ethics of Steven Knight and support our endeavors at Crimebusters Now.
We are putting together strategies with other groups that have also been defrauded in this illegal pyramid structure such as Departure Central, and Canadian Diamond Traders which is still operating and will also mathematically self-destruct. We need stories from victims. How much victims lost, how you were mislead, the positions of the people who mislead you, government, employees, police officers on the various police forces and those retired. Many of TTI distributors have boasted about a London Ontario Judge, an early distributor who explained the difference between a “legal pyramid” and an “illegal pyramid” if anyone can provide the name even anonymously let us know. Our telephone is 905-963-3389.
If you are from the U.K. you should be sending emails or letters or calling Industry Canada and Michael Shibley. He is the person responsible for your losses. He had the responsibility to do what the U.K. High Court did in 5 months. Close TTI down as a money circulating pyramid fraud and seize the assets. In Canada Shibley had over a year and a half to do that. With the evidence he had there was no excuse to stave off enforcement of Canadian Regulations designed not only for the protection of Canadians but victims in other countries. To date he has taken no action against Kippax nor seized TTI’s assets and rather allows him to launch a new fraud.
Michael Shibley www.competitionbureau@gc.ca 204-984-1304
www.crimebusternow.com 905-963-3389
dave |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1472
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 6:05 pm: |
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And they keep coming in
Hello;
My name is Melody and I too have lost thousands of dollars at the hands of Allan Kippax. My husband and I have 4 children and 4 grandchildren, so trying to help the family and get ahead a little ourselves my husband decided that TTI would be the answer. We bought into TTI and lost everything we had ($30,000.00). You are right it is harder when one wants to and the other doesn't! We started TTI in Jan 05, invested a ton of money and never saw a dime! We did buy the gems but can't efford to see if they are real or not. Now we go to the food banks for food and bill collecters are ringing off the hook. If there is anything I can do to help in your quest to stop this from happening to someone else I would be happy to help. I would love to get some of our money back if I knew how, but I would really like to stop this from happening to someone else. I know I am not alone in this. I just hope that I can save someone else from making the same mistakes we did.
Yours in service
Melody
You did not make a mistake. You are just another victim of a "well oiled" police and government supported con-man.
dave
www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1473
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 6:20 pm: |
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And Canadian Diamond Traders, same pyramid as TII and still at it. Check it out!!!
http://www.diamondpowerline.com/
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1474
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 7:30 pm: |
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http://www.canada.com/globaltv/edmonton/info/troubleshooter/story.html?id=0db68d0b-b546-48fb-a1aa-c7360f96b795
BUT NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT NOR THE MEDIA WILL TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY. THE TRUE STORY: THAT CORRUPT POLICE, LAWYERS, ACCOUNTANTS, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA AND POLITICIANS AND OTHER PROFESSIONS WERE AT THE TROUGH WHEN TTI BEGAN, JUST LIKE THEY PROMOTED "WOMEN EMPOWERING WOMEN" AND MADE FORTUNES AT THE EXPENCE OF THE ORDINARY PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM JUST LIKE THE COUNTRY OF ALBANIA.
dave www.crimbustersnow.com |
make7000 (make7000)
Intermediate Member
Username: make7000
Post Number: 245
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 24.150.254.233
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 8:36 am: |
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Ok this Melody is stupid!! If she is that stupid to invest everything she had into TTI then there is no helping her. Who is that stupid to invest $30000 in TTI or any MLM company? Why didn't she start with $1200 and if it didn't work then she would have been only out the $1200. But this bright women invest $30000  . l am surpized she was able to save that much money in the first place. Come on now she has to go and get food stamps and has bill collectors calling her  . What a joke. Where did u find this losser Dave?
 Keep posting these stories Dave there a good laugh.
l Made My $7000 Did You
P.S Do you really wear Lace Panties? |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
Member
Username: capn_blythe
Post Number: 96
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 81.105.46.166
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:38 pm: |
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How Proud make7000 must be.......To make money at the expense of others....and also for his closing comment..... |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1475
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 4:01 pm: |
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Hi Dave:
I have just been reading the threads on Factnet. I am from Oshawa, Ontario. My husband and I too lost money in TTI, $2400 to be exact. I became Captain of my board in Dec. 2004 and only one person on my board was trying to get people to join. We went to a few meetings, but no one signed on. That was it for the winter of 2005 and the summer of 2005, nothing materialized on my board. Then Nov/Dec. 2005 the fleetport in Oshawa was closed down, with no hope of it re-opening. I have never been able to afford to redeem my certificates.
In November 2005, I turned over my board to TTI and was told they would contact my 'crew' and find out if the people were still interested in pursuing the business. Well, TTI never contacted anybody. So, I called at the beginning of January and had to leave a message. I wanted to see if there was some way, maybe, they could sell my empty spots on my board and send me some sort of commission as they had told one of my friends they would do for his board. Anyway, nobody called me back, and to date, I have been still calling them but nobody answers the phone.
I had never been involved in multi level marketing in my life and thought this was a good way to earn extra income. I was wrong. I don't intend to ever do this again.
Is there any way I can at least get some of my money back????
M. |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1476
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
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Dear M.
The sales tax and the fancy packaging would have cost you more than the intrinsic value of the junk gemstones. I'm glad you did not get in any deeper.
If victims will get together we believe you have a good case against anyone connected with your losses. The London Ontario law suit against a person in a pyramid was successful.
Now, Canadian Diamond Traders out of Toronto is using the exact same illegal recruitment board as TTI and is nothing more than another gemstone pyramid fraud operating in full view of authorities. They are even members of AmCham, the American (world wide) Chamber of Commerce.
This I received today from England... "Investment scams: "You will be offered the chance to invest in effectively worthless shares, gemstones or other commodities."
Funny that, it's what our group has been saying since day one.
You see this is the irony and the problem. Other governments are warning their citizens of these frauds, but here the Cambers of Commerce allow their name and logo to promote these scams. BBB, Chamber of Commerce Members, politicians, police, members of the news media, corrupt lawyers and accountants etc., are promoting these illegal schemes. These same organizations and Industry Canada (Competition Bureau) through their silence are condoning the practice while their members are raking in 100's of thousands "to boot", just like the Country of Albania. They seemed to have learned nothing. Check this out from England.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com
http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/LocalPages/NewsDetails.aspx?nsid=4043&t=1&lid=6
P.S. don't forget to always go back and read the "MAKE 7000" post above to remind yourself of some of the types of people you are dealing with in these illegal scams. These are not newbies these are the vultures than follow pyramid fraud. The ones that should really be "nailed against the wall."
(Message edited by gatordave on February 01, 2006) |
pip (pip)
New member
Username: pip
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2006
Posted From: 70.48.34.154
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I too invested $3600 of my summer job earned money in this company, being told that it was the oppurtunity of a lifetime. Being inexperienced in business since I am a high school student, none of the promises I was told by this company were fulfilled. The oppurtunity to make $21,000 seemed extremely attractive, so I purchased 3 spots in pressure from the person who invited me, as well as Mr. Kippax himself (since I went to the headoffice). Seeing their building (I was told it was HP;s old building), I thought this was a legitimate business oppurtunity, but I now know otherwise. Is there any way I can recover my funds? I was hoping to earn money to put towards my university tuition next year, but now even the money I made in the summertime is all gone, and I am in a much worse position than I started off in. What to do? Please help.
Also, is there anything I can do with this certificates? Please help.
(Message edited by pip on February 01, 2006) |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
Member
Username: capn_blythe
Post Number: 97
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 81.105.46.166
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Hey Pip...Sorry about your loss....I imagine that you aren't alone....I'd advise you contact the Canadian version of what we Brits call "Trading Standards"....But also contact Gator Dave at www.crimebustersnow.com ....He and Michel are planning to put together a class action Lawsuit against TTI...you might be able to get some recompense through the courts that way....The more victims that participate in this,the better! |
hoops34a (hoops34a)
New member
Username: hoops34a
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 24.137.73.83
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 7:03 pm: |
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Hello folks. I also lost $2400 on this. I was told that I would have to do nothing and the money would flow in. I guess I was pretty green to believe. Some people made money. A lot of money. As for the gem cash, I have no idea what it's worth. They (tti) are starting another operation. I got a call wanting to know if I would be interested in coming on board. I think not, even though I was told I could make my money back.
I would be very interested in any class action suit aganist these people. I hope to get my money back. Thanks all. |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1477
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:41 am: |
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Please find as many victims as you can. You can contact me from www.crimebustersnow.com the email address is at the bottom of each page.
You can also call me at 905-963-3389 if it is long distance call me I will call you back or email me with you phone# gatoraid@sympatico.ca
dave www.crimebustersnow.com
(Message edited by gatordave on February 10, 2006) |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1481
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 10:15 am: |
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You can sue individually in small claims court for up to $10,000. Case law is available.
dave...... wwwcrimebustersnow.com 905-963-3389 we will return your call toll-free.
(Message edited by gatordave on February 04, 2006) |
pip (pip)
New member
Username: pip
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2006
Posted From: 64.231.255.39
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 3:03 am: |
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Hi,
I just noticed that www.ttico.com and www.treasuretradersinternational.com were working agin. Did TTI reopen their office? Are they again back in this disgusting business? |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1482
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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I noticed that to. I do not know what is going on with TTI (on the web, off the web??? who knows) but the pyramid is illegal. The corrupt police at every level in this country are making money on this scheme and our government are allowing Kippax to do anything he wants, laws notwithstanding. In the U.K. they haulted them fast and seized the assets. TTI are opening something on the web and are now heading for Spain. I received that information weeks ago and verified it yesterday.
These fraudulent schemes are extremely serious issues in this country. Unless victims are going to get together, speak out and pool thier resourses, more and more families, friendships and communities are going to be harmed.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com
905-963-3389 we will call back toll free.
(Message edited by gatordave on February 07, 2006) |
pip (pip)
New member
Username: pip
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2006
Posted From: 72.59.8.239
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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Now on www.ttico.com, a pdf file is there that says that the operation has been shut down, and that the Purchase Order Deposit Receipt Certificates will be honoured at www.honourcerts.com. |
real_truth (real_truth)
Intermediate Member
Username: real_truth
Post Number: 436
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 216.221.56.42
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 6:56 am: |
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To all-
TTI was...
Illegal 2 years ago
Illegal 1 year ago
Illegal yesterday
Still illegal and shut down...
Mission done!!!
The honourcerts.com site has been registered with Go Daddy on January 30, 2006, and is parked there, not online yet.
The way it's done, you cannot see the owners but everybody here know that's Kippax and/or his crooks.
Be aware... |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
Member
Username: capn_blythe
Post Number: 98
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 81.105.46.166
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We could do with some feedback from anyone who has contacted this honourcerts site to see if its legit....BTW isn't "Honour" the British spelling of the word...as opposed to "Honor"..?
Methinks Kippax has set up the site.... |
make7000 (make7000)
Intermediate Member
Username: make7000
Post Number: 247
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 24.150.254.233
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Mission done? l am sure that you dumb ••• had nothing to do with TTI closing. What are u going to do with your time now guys? Gatordave u have wasted the lsat couple years of your life fighting against TTI and now what? How are u going to make a living? Now that you can't scam more people into sending u money to try and fight the evil that was TTI You people are the true loser. Kippax made MILLION and he did it all legally. Kippax made his money and decided it was time to shut it down. Now thats a smart business man. Which is more then l can say for you loser. Well have fun loser.
l made my $7000 |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1486
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
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What we need are victims willing to speak out and go to the police with their complaints. The police refuse to take action unless victims come forward. Victims are afraid to come forward because of intimidation. The police are wrong. There exists lots of evidence without witness victims coming forward. But that is their corrupt excuse for doing nothing. Take that excuse away and speak out. They are using a "catch 22". Intimidate witness then refuse to take action unless the intimidated victims speak out.
Now under the Criminal Code of Canada pyramid frauds are illegal lottery gambling schemes. It is as simple as that.
Last week I was tipped off that a meeting was going to be held at Pine Tree Restaurant in Hamilton. I was there handing out pamphlets. Kippax came out of the restaurant with a couple of goons. While he was arguing his illegal schemes one of his goons punched me and pushed me into the traffic on that busy parkway. I could have been killed. I called police. Now, police claim, (and I use the word claim because I never believe police. Most I have dealt with are outright filthy perjuring liars) now, they claim the people in the room said only myself and the goon that hit me were at the curb when the assault took place. Police further claim (again claim) that Kippax denied even being out there and that no one in the room contradicted that. So, police say...... cont |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1487
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
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Now, there are some lies going on here. Either by the police or Kippax and his goons and followers. I have a tape recording of the incident clearing showing Kippax arguing for several minutes and the other two mouthing off. The goon that hit me started using the “F” word just before he assaulted me. The police, after stating they would investigate further if the tape revealed that anyone other than me and this goon were out there, are now refusing to use the recording and refusing to investigate further. In the altercation they claim the goon’s nose was broken. I don’t know if I broke his nose or not but there was a great deal of blood all over him and it wasn't mine. I just had a huge lump under my eye.
Now, the crooks and cops in Hamilton are following the M.O. of other police in these gambling frauds and are busy fabricating evidence, false reports suppressing evidence coercing witnesses to lie or “keep quiet” about what really happened.
If anyone has any information about that night, the goons that were at the curb when I was assaulted and what the police said to those at the meeting will you please let me know even anonymously. My number is 905-963-3389 or write to 19 Main St. Ayr Ont. N0B 1E0.
dave www.crimebusternow.com
Don’t let these crooks get away with deceiving and fraudulently relieving you, your friends, your family, high school students your co-worker etc., of thousands and thousands of dollars so they can make millions. Please Speak Out!!! |
ss21 (ss21)
New member
Username: ss21
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2006
Posted From: 24.71.223.142
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what is it for me if I speak up? will I get my lost money back? or put more money to fight for a cause with no assurance of winning? |
ss21 (ss21)
New member
Username: ss21
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2006
Posted From: 24.71.223.142
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Getting my money back can drive me crazy (wide eyed), because of my need for it. But I believe that I should not allow such need to crash my spirit. I believe that only time will tell ones untruthfulness. And while at wait, life goes on.
I have learned a great lesson and would be more cautious in my decision makings. I would love to do another business say... hmmmm, housing and lands (oh yah!).
Possibly, those people who seem not to care about their financial losses think the same way I am.
May God be our judge! |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1488
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
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And what about the young people losing their education? Seniors losing what they can never regain? What about the threats to make people afraid in a "free" country? What about assault and destroying lives of those intelligent enough to spot the scam trying to get family memeber's money back? Are they just to be destroyed by crooks and cops on the take and that's O.K.? What about the high school kid thinking this is a viable business and talks a dozen or more friends into it, spends the money and can't pay them back after the cooks pull out and his former friends come after him for being scammed? And what about crooks with criminal records of drugs weapons and assault? What do you think these kinds of people do, and lives they will destroy with a fast 50 million or more?
They have already traced money from the lucrative conterfiet goods racket to terrorists. Pretty narrow minded on your part I would say. Start looking at the "big picture" these are criminals doing untold harm to lives, families and communities.
No one is going to take $7,500 from a member of my family give it to a politician and swear her to secrecy never to tell. Over my dead body. My family didn't fight three wars to protect this country just to be sold out by corrupt cops and dirty politicians.
dave www.crimebusters.com |
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TTI site is still there if you use this URL;
http://www.ttico.com/introduction.asp
probably won't last though - just like the company... |
ss21 (ss21)
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for peace of mind.
I lost a heep of borrowed money with TTI. Just the thought of repaying it can bury me under. I thought of close doors. But, as I reflect on this circumstance, I found an open window... health (in any aspects) is wealth too. I would stay fit and sane. And, having this kind of wealth gives me endless possible ways to earn and repay and earn even more for my next business venture.
I am done with repaying my debt and I thank THE ONE who never seized to amaze me.
If TTI had done me wrong, my forgiveness is theirs for keeps. My life is complicated enough to care for yet another thing. There are more other things I value than revenge or justice (not mine). |
gatordave (gatordave)
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TTI is on again off again but definitely closed down.
If you want a shot at your money back or at least nail this crook speak up!
dave www.crimebustersnow.com
p.s. The auto surfing website pyramid scams like 12daily Pro through Storm Pay are now in trouble.
http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4476868 |
gatordave (gatordave)
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To ss21: It's people like you that fill the pockets of criminals and allow our country to be turned over to organized crime, and drug lords corrupting our youth and stealing from seniors etc., and then do nothing about it, even to support those who work to stop it.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
ss21 (ss21)
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Dave, if you believe in God Almighty, All Knowing, Always Present, Sovereign... there's an end to all evil doings... others had ended.
I may testify about my experience with TTI but filling my complaint is not an option. If my testimony is enough, I'll give my piece. |
ss21 (ss21)
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Dave, hahaha! I should say, I'm a person who prefers the back stage. |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Hey ss21...Just testify...No one wants any more money from you.....All we want is others to learn lessons from this.....and maybe those who DO want retribution to get it...and your testimony could help others in these ways... |
ss21 (ss21)
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dave, let me know if you need my testimony. |
ss21 (ss21)
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gem business testimony -- The business started with my friend who invited us to one of the meetings. We bought the gem pack for $1200 and joined the business. After two months, we can’t get more buyers therefore we stopped our business. We realized that the product is for the can-afford or the rich. We didn’t buy the gems or trade for additional costs. |
ss21 (ss21)
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dave, has it been proven that TTI is a scam? I think that TTI is just one of those businesses that didn't excell/succeed, but that doesn't prove their illegality. These businessees closes because they didn't meet the need, therefore no consumer. Basics of business. |
ss21 (ss21)
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Quoted by Dave: "And what about the young people losing their education? Seniors losing what they can never regain? What about the threats to make people afraid in a "free" country? What about assault and destroying lives of those intelligent enough to spot the scam trying to get family memeber's money back? Are they just to be destroyed by crooks and cops on the take and that's O.K.?"
--- I think those people you mentioned do need justice, but aren't we talking about TTI. It hasn't been proven that this certain business is a scam. For now, people's loses are mere another failed business venture. "Ifs... I was just more into business that meets the need of consumers, then I should have succeeded; even ifs...we can't be sure my chosen food franchise will also succeed." Elements of doing business.
Quote continued: "What about the high school kid thinking this is a viable business and talks a dozen or more friends into it, spends the money and can't pay them back after the cooks pull out and his former friends come after him for being scammed?"
--- I think people should be honest about themselves and with others. Ask forgiveness and talk about the options of repaying as a team. This should be a test of fine friendships.
Quote continued: "And what about crooks with criminal records of drugs weapons and assault? What do you think these kinds of people do, and lives they will destroy with a fast 50 million or more?"
--- I don't know how to answer this part. But, I believe that national leaders are trying their best to protect their people from such evil doers. If leaders are found guilty of any criminal offense... may GOD ALMIGHTY (El Shadday) AND JUDGE (Shophet) bring justice to us all. |
gatordave (gatordave)
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That's a lot of nonsense TTI is a recognized pyramid scheme as is Departure Cental. Do your research. In fact it is all done for you. Just go to our website and simply click on the U.K. documents from the High Court of England. It was closed down as a pyramid money circulating scam. Departure Central is the same "airplane" pyramid fraud that has been going around for years. Check what the Australian Government says about it to save its citizens from precisely what happened here in Canada.
The problem is people who research nothing seem to know to it all. Why do you think we were able to predict as soon as the pyramid started what the end results would be. It is mathematically predicable that's why it is an illegal scheme. Read the posting from the beginning who's was right?
Why do people like you, after centuries of these flim flam scammers and “snake oil” salesmen, still don't realize that these scammers like magicians spend years developing jargon you don't understand, brainwash you with it and get you to parrot it like you know what you talking about. They have the records and population of every community they infiltrate and know exactly when to "cut and run". Victims only realize with surprise months later it isn't working. The crooks know the scam must collapse but in your surprise you begin parroting all their excuses, while all along they’re leaps and bounds ahead of you and have the next line of B.S. all ready to feed you again.
Intelligent professionals that study these frauds and fraud artists spend years writing reports, but you think with no research you have it all figured out. These scam artist always blame their partners who mysteriously get paid and take off giving this B.S. an “air” of credibility.
Here is an excerpt Read it ....... “It's very easy for one to point the finger at the other, and very common practice whenever I get complaint responses back from companies that are suspect in nature," said Howard. "They find a way to point the finger at someone else to avoid blame, that is a common tactic that con artists use."
From...... http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4476868 see if you can understand what these professionals are trying to tell you.
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gatordave (gatordave)
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Now do you really thinks these professionals who are trying to keep people from getting scammed make this stuff up to destroy legitimate business? I mean really? How much money do you think I make out of this personally trying to save students from losing schooling and seniors money they don’t have and can’t make back when I could have joined TTI in the early days and made a fortune with my mouth shut, a target of no one, scamming naive easy marks like you. Why do you think I tried to get my wife to give back thousands she made after being brainwashed by her corrupt lawyer, his wife, insurance agents, real estate agents, politicians, and the families of the corrupt Ontario Provincial Police and the money they stole by fraud from naive citizens in my community.
Please do some research, use some common sense, and see if way down inside you, you can discover empathy. It what psychiatrists claim makes us human and separates us from predatory animals. What I can’t believe is, that I have discovered so few who claim to be decent humans that really have none of it. Even the great and slippery orator Bruce Audley who declared he could care less if the seniors and poor little high school students lost their money and their schooling to the likes of an international shark like Alan Kippax, didn’t have it. The lack of it, it seems in his opinion is apparently is what makes Canada Great and Free. Free to rip off anyone. What the hell has happened to my country!!! And what has happened to what I thought were normal intelligence decent human beings?
Dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
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And B.S. to our national leaders. Who do you think is keeping these scams going? You apparently have no idea how many of them are in these fraudulent scams and corrupt practices with corrupt lawyers, police and even judges. And the most of the rest covering it up along with the main-line media. Did you have your head in the sand all through the election and the Gomery Inquiry "SS21"? Quote Gomery..... “I had no idea there was money being passed from one person to another in envelopes to buy the services for people for political ends........
And this was something that I learned and it was quite scandalizing to me and I was disgusted by it” Gomery went on. He added that, as a judge, he had heard murder cases and other shocking evidence.
“But I maintained a level of idealistic view of politicians, which I have now lost.”
And so have I, Justice Gomery, and corrupt police and even judges I’m sad to say.
Now, what more could be added to open your naive senses "SS21". Politicians, corrupt lawyers etc., were exchanging bags, $5000 cash per bag of fraudulently obtained money at the beach in my community. The corrupt lying thieving bastards.
Now with a bunch of slick B.S. and junk gemstones they promote the same pyramid fraud and you can’t see through that, "SS21" even with help of the decision of the High Court of England!!!!!!!!!!
dave www.crimebustersnow.com It's all on there. |
ss21 (ss21)
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High Court of England? link me to what our country had discovered. We have our own laws and authorities. If they are guilty of these crimes and corruption... I believe that God ALmighty and Judge will bring them down. It may not be today or soon, but eventually.
Probably, I am what you think I am, but that's how you percieve me. I put more value to how God sees me. My trust and faith is to THE ONE who knows it all before things even happen.
There are leaders placed in authority. If they don't do their tasks well, I believe that God has his own ways of dealing with leaders. I may have a part of it or you for that matter or someone else. Or his ways may be something beyond our understanding. My trust and faith is to THE ONE who knows it all before things even happen.
God has his ways of taking care of his creation, how much more us humans whom he created for himself.
More important things are set before me. My prayers will be for these evil doers. My voice will be heard in heaven.
I fear God more than I fear man. |
ss21 (ss21)
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I appreciate what you are doing for this cause.
There's more to what our senses tell us. That's more frightening and blindening. They can take over humans without knowing or sensing it. It can tranform humans to any form. Others already have. They need the saving from these evil spirits. |
gatordave (gatordave)
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Look we opened this thread to listen to victims of TTI and other frauds and offer help to the victims not to rehash nearly two years of TTI is legal - no it's not stupid arguments and obscure ridiculous nonsense from apparent "brain-washed" cult rejects. TTI is an illegal pyramid fraud period.
These threads are limitless. Go open you own and I will be glad to meet you there and engage in your "spiritual" and pyramid fraud uniformed nonsense.
Again, I realize you can post anywhere you want but I would rather you took it elsewhere. We are interested in pragmatic solutions for victims not ridiculous circular arguments.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
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And as far as God goes, God Almighty has his hands full with frausters like Benny Hinn, the red, geen, and white handkerchief fraudsters and that guy "POP OFF" with the mass-produced tiny tubes of "God Blessed" Russian water you pour over your phone and the next call pays your mortgage or you get a brand new car or both while the homeless, not so blessed with a phone to pour water over, get nothing! I wonder if the good Lord has enough lightning bolts to take care of all the "Christian" fraudsters.
We're just trying to clean up the pyramid fraudsters for now.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
ss21 (ss21)
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people are sometimes so succumb to cares of these world that they forget about the God who owns everything. They forget to look up and find refuge and strength in Him. People are so dependent on themselves rather than on God. And when they try to access God for answers for their own agenda and time frame, they fret. CRIMES AND FRAUDS WILL CEASE. It may not be at our lifetime, but it will.
Have I said anything to offend you? I am with you... again, I appreciate what you are doing for this cause. Some already have found guilty and others will. |
gatordave (gatordave)
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I care about our lifetime and the families who are being destroyed NOW. Read your Bible. The good Lord didn't wait for eternity to get the crooks and money changers in the Temple. He simply walked in and turned over the tables. He also didn't tell the world the parable of the Good Samaritan so they could walk by bleading and dying people on their way to church to PRAY to the Lord to help them. He showed how to help them youself.
It's you self proclaimed Christians that bring this fraudulent crap into the church and polute the minds of youth and steal in the name of God.
Have you offended me you ask??? YES. Take your warped Christian babbling somewhere else. If you appreciate what I'm doing as you say don't be a hypocrite, go to my website and donate $100, a tiny tiny fraction of what you gave this crook Kippax so I can hand out pamphlets to our students warning them of these fraud artists who are detroying, friends, families, workplace realtionships and communities.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com That's NOW |
ss21 (ss21)
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There's no hypocricy to what I have said. It's just a peace of mind knowing who God is over all circumstances.
There are supported groups in our society who works the same ideals. And there are safer methods for our voices to be heard. Going against the law is not what I intend of doing. I see risky road ahead.
what I mean when I said, "I appreciate your work for this cause and I'm with you" is like saying you are commended for having a good cause for doing things you do and my prayer will be with you. That's all I am saying.
I would rather stick to what God intends things to be... leaders to govern the people and let Him govern them all and make them accountable for the talents (responsibilities) given them. There's a living God above us all. |
ss21 (ss21)
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quoted by Dave: "Read your Bible. The good Lord didn't wait for eternity to get the crooks and money changers in the Temple. He simply walked in and turned over the tables. He also didn't tell the world the parable of the Good Samaritan so they could walk by bleading and dying people on their way to church to PRAY to the Lord to help them. He showed how to help them youself."
What motivated Jesus to do such thing? Jesus close relationship with God makes Him one with Him. He knows what the Father God wants the people to learn. The temple is God's house and God needs respect. Jesus knows God would not allow abomination in his house. And the Parable (an earthly story with a heavenly meaning) of Good Samaritan is for us to learn the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven.. in this parable it teaches us to be merciful"
What about Jesus' crucifixion. He did not fight back when he has the chance. He just said that the time has come... he was whipped, tortured, crowned with torns, carried the cross, nailed and died. It was a gruesome experience but he bare it to accomplish God's purpose of saving His lost children and give them a new life. Jesus death on the cross and His shed blood paid for all our transgressions.
Was Jesus teaching revenged? Jesus knows God is just. Jesus himself modeled love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, getleness and self-control. He was compassionate, merciful and just. Did Jesus take the matters into his own hands? |
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SS21-
Help yourself and heavens will help you... so... do something positive, not only words.
If you want to really help the cause of victims, do your part by going to http://crimebustersnow.org |
gatordave (gatordave)
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SS21 you hyporcite. I'm simply attempting to warn our kids and the unsophisticated away from the evil you donated thousands to. Now will you buzz off and stop spewing your misinformed, misintepreted, "Cult Christian" garbage on this thread. What you spew is not Christianity or any form of it. It is the very Anti-Christ propadganda and hypocracy warned about in the very Bible you twist and turn to support criminals. I turned downed the oportunity for greed and millions. It's you that got involved. Now you defend it. That's how you tell the honest who were duped from the greedy. The decent and the honest have relaized it was a scam and don't want others involved. Some have covered thousands in loses of those they brought in. You still defend it and don't give a sweet damn.
I have responded to you on the the new "Anti Christ" thread lets keep it there.
You ask the question "What motivated Jesus to do such a thing?" Simple!!! Because they were scammers and he didn't want them in the temple!!! It's pretty clear. Why do sick "brain washed cult Christians" complicate things with tons of overlaid complicated B.S. IT'S SIMPLE HE DIDN"T WANT SCAMMERS IN THE TEMPLE.
Once you "brainwashed" cult Christians get done "brainwashing" enough people it's time to bring out the Kool Aid and take the "brainwashed" short cut to heaven.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
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There are victims in Toronto who are willing to go to the police to lay a complaint against Kippax. Is there others out there who are willing to do likewise? There is also a group willing to do the same in Departure Central collapsed pyramid fraud.
We are receiving a few inquires about Canadian Diamond Traders International. Ironically even the crook Alan Kippax tells us Canadian Diamond Investment is an illegal scam!!!
If you go to the police alone it is likely you will get the "run-round" a "hard time" and be harassed. That has been the experience of others and certainly my experience. It has also been my experience when you go as a group the attitude changes, such as the time I brought 18 tenants in slum building with a leaking roof who were being denied repairs, heating not working, made to pay illegal damage deposits and intimidated by the slum landlord. The police and authorities only further harassed and intimidated them to shut them up, until I went with them as a group with a copy of the laws this wealthy slum landlord was violating and the police were protecting against prosecution. Over 60 charges were laid against him. IMMEDIATELY. Like in NOW!
Remember, high school kids, the finically desperate, and immigrants are being drawn into these scams and facing financial hardship. Unless citizens take a stand and say "enough!!!" these gambling pyramid frauds will continue unabated. Just speak out.
dave www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
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Posted From: 24.141.185.22
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This is an example of what happens alone, even to women.
Hi Dave,
Thank you for the quick response. I am located in Toronto, Ontario. I attented the Head Office of TTI at 2645 Matheson Blvd. East in Mississauga.
I lost $1200.00. I know another two victims who lost the same amount and are located in Woodbridge, Ontario.
Dave, we have filed a police report with peel regional police which is the district of where TTI head office operates in. They gave us a hard time and a lot of run-around. In the end...detective Lemcke said to accept the loss and that they will not investigate it. I filed a police compliant and havent heard since.
However, we did take Mr. Lemcke's advice and filed a complaint with the Competetion Bureau with Michael Shibley. He bascially took the complaint and did not say what he was going to do b/c of some privacy act where they can’t tell us if they are or not investigating it b/c it will interfere with the process. He then advised to file a complain with the Canada government website.
I have also filed complaints with Treasure Traders International (TTI), Ontario Ministry of Government Services, Industry Canada, Ontario Securities Commission, Phonebusters, and the Better Business Bureau. All with no results.
Dave, we are very interested in getting our money back! As for now...we want our money back now and we want to shut down TTI using the proper legal course and we would like to help protect future innocent Canadians from this FRAUD.
We will keep in touch! have forwarded your email to the other two victims. Dave Good website and non-profit organization.
Mike
www.crimebustersnow.com |
gatordave (gatordave)
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For over two years I have been sending hundreds of emails worldwide urging agencies to do something meaningful about the effects of TTI, WEW, Departure Central and other world wide scams. I repeatedly updated these emails sent to university professors who deal in business and study the effects of pyramid and Ponzi schemes, as well as governments around the world, Interpol, Scotland Yard, FBI, FTC, State, Provincial and Local Police in many Countries; to the U.S. State Attorneys General , the Australian Authorities, to news media, businesses, churches, and other organizations.
I hope, and I truly believe the continual active efforts of our small organization has indeed made an impact on these organizations. I received an email (link posted below) a few days ago.
If you want anything achieved and quickly, individuals victims of these frauds must join together, come forward and SPEAK UP. With the beginning of this world-wide wake-up call and momentum with “numbers” behind us the Canadian Police, and government authorities will have to stop withholding enforcement of the Criminal Code and Consumer Protection Laws and cease the run-a-round, harassment and intimidation victims have been subjected to when reporting these pyramid and Ponzi schemes and scams.
We have the numbers!!! www.crimebustersnow.com has received numerous complaints from victims of the Sum-it Club pyramid scheme out of Woodbridge Ontario being harassed, threatened by Club executives and at least one lawyer, with destruction of their credit a if they refuse to further participate in their scheme. One woman, Marion S. Of Oakville actually arrested on what she claims are false charges of threatening death by a woman and the lawyer running this fraud. My personal experience is the same, only I have tape recordings, court documents, and police files and notes to prove these false allegations, backing up her allegations of the corrupt use of the criminal law to destroy complainants. |
gatordave (gatordave)
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Victims in Toronto and Barrie of 12dailyPro and Storm Pay are contacting www.crimebustersnow.com. Victims representing thousands defrauded in Departure Central including many from Germany complaining of their losses and the new scam the top dogs of DCI like TTI are now running. I have already met with representatives of DCI victims concerning their issues.
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gatordave (gatordave)
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The attitude is different when “hordes” arrive to make the same complaint. Please re-read the story above about the 18 tenants harassed until we showed up on mass. These laws are for your protection. No one of authority has the right to withhold the enforcement and to deny victims and society the benefit of these laws. But YOU must tell them that. We will do the hard work, victims just need to show up and support the only organization that actively supports you ...
www.crimebustersnow.com . Now, read this email sent to CBN and JUST DO IT. It is that simple!!!
This is the email I received today.
Taskforce set up to tackle global fraud
The Age - Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
... A unified approach would better tackle global internet fraud, with most ... domain-name sales, technological "miracle" cures, lottery scams, pyramid schemes and ...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/taskforce-set-up-to-tackle-global-fraud/2006/02/12/1139679479601.html
dave. I can be reached at 905-963-3389 gatoraid@sympatico.ca www.crimebustersnow.com
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gatordave (gatordave)
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There are more of us out there. This again from Australia
"The Maitland woman said she had been targeted by a lot of scams over the years and knew to disregard them but feared for the "vulnerable" members of the community who might be tricked into becoming involved.
"It's terrible what goes on and a lot of people don't realise (they're a trick)," she said.
"These scams are targeting the vulnerable people, the gullible ones and unfortunately the ones who send money off are often the ones who can least afford it."
http://maitland.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&story_id=458549&category=General%20News&m=2&y=2006 |
gatordave (gatordave)
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1527
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 1:36 am: |
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This is an email I received. Dave Stewart is liar, cheat and scammer; has taken victims for 10's of thousands. He is the father of an RCMP officer and working with crook Kippax a record of assault, weapons and drugs.
This middle-aged bullying punk came out of the Pine Tree Restaurant with Kippax and another "goon", told me to F-off, punched me in the face and pushed me into traffic.
This is what Canada has degenerated to. Organized criminals with corrupt cops, lawyers, politicians, accountants, bankers, members of the judiciary and their families in a conspiracy to defraud thousands of ordinary citizens right down to high school students out of millions, and starting yet another illegal pyramid fraud
----- Original Message -----
From: name withheld
To: gatoraid@sympatico.ca
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: TTI
The Company TTI was closed down recently (Jan 13/2006) but it is in full operation again under different Name and website address. Alan Kippax is doing presentations from Niagara falls to Oshawa.
Go to: www.newcosite.com All the schedules are there and how much he made the first year in business.
His main page is under David Stewart. Showing Dave Stewart has integrity etc, etc.
Click here: www.dave-stewart.com
www.newcosite.com,
Alan has documented he made $34 Millions in his first year. It is common knowledge that $22 Millions is banked in the Bahamas. He purchased a mansion in Birminham England 500,000 pounds (rumours has it)
Revenue Canada should be made aware of this.
Both Banks he dealt with in the past had froze his accounts because they had never seen any Company with this kind of cash flow; on an ongoing basics.
END
davewww.crimebustersnow.com
(Message edited by gatordave on February 16, 2006) |
pro154 (pro154)
New member
Username: pro154
Post Number: 9
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 24.222.92.239
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 6:44 pm: |
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from the newcosite...
"New Adventure Boards starting at only $300.00 US"
disgusting |
capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
Intermediate Member
Username: capn_blythe
Post Number: 101
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 81.105.46.166
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 7:25 am: |
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Closing the Company and reopening it under a new name is a common blag to escape creditors..... |
pro154
New member
Username: pro154
Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 24.222.92.239
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 7:18 am: |
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http://www.bimcorporation.com/
This is the new TTI |
real_truth
Intermediate Member
Username: real_truth
Post Number: 443
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.36.150.158
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:54 am: |
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To all-
Have you noticed that BIM is postponing its official opening to September?
They were due to open in March.
It's like they are having some problems with their recruitment.
People are not so naive BIM's creators think they are. |
gatordave
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1636
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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If you examine BIM closely you will see they are still flogging the TTI gemstones. Examine BIM even more closely with it's travel packages and so-called new compensation package etc., and you will realize it is virtually the reincarnation of Departure Central's Airplane scam that "crashed and burned" in Markham last year before it even "got off the ground" with the top guns keeping all the "so-called" distributors "start-up fees" exactly what Kippax and Dave Stewart the father of RCMP officer Harold Stewart of Hamilton are up to right now.
The very fact they are not launching now until September gives Kippax and Stewart the opportunity to "consolidate" those who were victimized in TTI, holding worthless certificates, and further scam them for millions "up front" by taking these worthless certificates and more money with the promise of ten times the return (when BIM gets off the ground). The classic pyramid Ponzi "smoke and mirrors" promises.
Incidentally, just the additional money required to purchase these over appraised junk gemstones is many more times than they are worth, (and that is from a gemologist) even if you buy them from Kippax Western Bus Tour saving the outrageous $100 shipping charges.
dave 905-963-3389 www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatico.ca |
gatordave
Senior Member
Username: gatordave
Post Number: 1637
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.141.185.22
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:26 am: |
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P.S. Alan Kippax criminal record assault, weapons, drugs and Dave Stewart father of RCMP officer Harold Stewart are "taking victims for a ride" in Western Canada on a tour bus funded by the proceeds of crime from previous victims.
And that's just the way it is!!! dave 905-963-3389 www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatico.ca |
