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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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I have in my possesion a letter from Treasure Traders in the UK.....Basically they have set up a new company in the UK to offset future losses they will get.....(in other words Canadian TTI won't be liable for refunds?compensation in the UK...slick move Kippax)...any how...here's the text that matters......

" Despite our liasing with the DTI (Department Of Trade And Industry) over the previous 5 months,the DTI have now challenged the legallity of our program and a petition was served upon the company on Monday 31 October 2005."



Basically...treasure Traders CANNOT Trade in the UK....and,if the DTI have served a petition stopping them in the meantime...(as they have)....

IT's BYE BYE BOYS!!!!!!

(Message edited by cap'n blythe on November 24, 2005)
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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BTW....To The_Truth and all the other gloaters.....THIS IS TOO FUNNY......
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Oh...By the way....all seperating the company into two has done is ...Hanging Peter Kippax..(as MD of TTCL as it is now known in the uk)...out to dry!!!
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gatordave (gatordave)
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"Greta Stuff Capt'n. Which way to the "plank" of the sinking ship "DESTINY"

gatordave.... I'm there waiting just under the hull."

Damn!!! I wish they would have opened in the U.S of A.

And to the Great unconscionable "I AM" Bruce Audley, don't jump on our ship. Stay with your cyber-bullying sicko friends.

Ripped off by the criminals at TTI
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Hmm....The Pro TTI boys are conspicuous by their silence on this issue.....I wonder why?
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bruce_audley (bruce_audley)
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"capn_blythe" - That is not simply good news, it is a responsible response in a country where civil law was practiced long before Canada was even thunk'd of!

"Dave" - What the hell are you babbling about. Like it or not, I have never been a supporter of "T.T.I.Co." as all readers understand (sorry, obviously not all). You acting babyish bothers me not one iota. But for what it's worth, there is absolutely NO danger of you and I ever being on the same ship! Personally speaking, that would be hell on the high seas for me though it could go a long way to your own self improvement!

Bruce Audley
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gatordave (gatordave)
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You are on record as stating your view that these scams should be allowed and it is up to victims even 16 year old children to sort it out for themselves and it is you view that it is perfectly legal and all you have done is put as many obsticals as possible into encouraging that the satus quo remain. You know, "the criminal sharks feeding on the little fish.

I can see nothing you have done to to try to encourage government to stamp it out. How could you, when you have already stated that government should stay out.

All you have indicated having done, is that you make sure your own familly and friends know the pitfalls and a few people you meet along the way. All you have said from both sides of your mouth is that it is not a good investment but it's perfectly legal. Then you deny there are victims as you also try to discredit me and make me the fool, when you write.... "Well, Dave were are all the victims? Show us the victims Dave" When anyone familiar with fraud will tell you victims seldom speak out. MANY ACTUALLY INTIMIDATED AND "SWORN TO SECRECY"

What did you contribute to help close them down in the U.K.? How could you even get authorities to move to close them down if your position is they are perfectly legal and should be allowed to rip off unsuspecting or "dull" kids and others who are not as "smart" as you. I mean, what kind of a stupid e-mail would that be.

"I'm Bruce Audley from Canada. There is a bad investment company selling gemstones that are not, in my very humble opinion, (with the limited knowledge I have in the gemstone stone industry, and please of course take no offence) worth what they say they are, but I must add, they are perfectly legal, could your government close them down."

You could have have been an effective force. What did you contribute to the effort to have TTI closed in the U.K.?

Did you send any law enforcement agency in the U.K. or any anti-pyramid group or individual an e-mail in the U.K. And if not, why not, or did I adequately expalin that above.

That's what the hell I'm talking about, Bruce Audley.

dave


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gatordave (gatordave)
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Hey Cap'n.

The letter was served Oct 31/05 just about in time for the second great aniversery party of this pyramid fraud company managing to avoid closure here.

Of course TTI lines the pockets of law enforement and government employees with 10's of thousands here, from their fraud, which acts as an addition deterant to victims speaking out, and somehow they influence some opponents to do a 180 degree turn-a-round. Some do it for money, some just to "suck around power and go with the status-quo" notwithstanding right or wrong.

I heard Andrew Kippax is a high up government official in Manchester. Did he not have the same influence as the corrupt officials here. Can you find out any info on that? Has it been in the newspapers there yet?

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voice_of_reason (voice_of_reason)
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capn'
What you and Dave fail to recognize, is that the laws in the UK are different than those in Canada.
Also, if TTI is found to be in violation of any laws either here in Canada, or there in the UK (remember, they are just suspended right now in the UK, pending whatever investigations are being done), just like ACN, and Herbalife, who were both charged for operating illegal pyramid scams here in Canada, revised the plans to meet current Canadian laws. Both ACN and Herbalife have been back in operation (legally this time) for quite some time. Even the mighty Michel endorsed those companies (which is ironic don't you think, since they were busted for illegal activities in the past, and TTI has never been...) Since TTI already meets current Canadian laws, this won't be necessary, but even if there was something found in violation, it would be amended, and TTi would be back in operation before Dave could gloat and finish his victory dance.

What I find the most amusing here, is that Dave truly believes he actually had something to do with TTI's current suspension in the UK. WHAT A JOKE!!!! LOL
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bruce_audley (bruce_audley)
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"Dave" - The single most bestest thing I done was not join your irresponsible citizen's chant of "Hang em' high according to Dave's law and ignore the current law of the land". That makes me bad in your books Dave but it makes me morally superior in the eyes of most people reading this site. Were I you, I would kill to be me! But I'm not, nor are you. Spout your poison man, it suits you. Come on, you can do a lot, lot better than that meager effort!

But I'll get you started (why I think I need to do that is one of this evening's mysteries). I must conclude from your less then elegant post above, that you yourself are taking some kind of credit for a legal ruling exacted in another country. Who knew that you held this kind of sway? How did you personally manage it? Was your lack of progress in the courts of Canada, the reason that you elected to go for change in another land? Did they see you coming? Were you welcomed with white gloves and red carpets? Did they bow down in exalted servitude? Help us with your wisdom, of great one! What would we do without you? How COULD we do without you? The minions await your wonderous prose...

Bruce Audley
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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I think you will find,"Voice"...that the TTI case is totally different than the two examples you give...For instance,TTI are going to have to go to Court and plead their case..(as states in their letter)...if it were just minor infringements...The DTI would have ordered TTI to merely make changes to rectify these minor infringements...NOT STOPPED THEM TRADING IN THE MEANTIME.......anyhow....Knowing the British legal system,I can see this dragging on Months...and maybe even longer than a year...
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Hey "Voice"...this from the DTI's website

"Investigations under section 447 are confidential and allow suspicions of misconduct to be looked at without risk of harming the company. If such inquiries were published, the company might be unfairly damaged. Therefore DTI does not announce such investigations, or respond to questions as to whether or not a particular company is under investigation. These inquiries are usually completed within three months."

"If it is in the public interest the Secretary of State may use the information obtained to petition the Court to wind up the company or to disqualify the company's directors."

Now the investigation has been completed...and ,by TTI's own admission..they are going to court....So it looks like the DTI are trying to either Wind Up The Company..Disqualify it's Directors....Or both!
Fully explains TTI's decision to form a separate company for it's British operation
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gatordave (gatordave)
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Does sound logical I must say

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bruce_audley (bruce_audley)
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Oh thank GOD that Dave cleared that up for all of us. And here I was not even knowing how to begin my day. Thanks Dave!

Bruce
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gatordave (gatordave)
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You are most certainly welcome Mr. Audley

dave


Ask not what your country can do for you; but rather what you can do for [not to] your country." JFK

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bruce_audley (bruce_audley)
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Now you're talking! I actually like that thought and am going to take it with the grace and dignity with which I believe it was posted!

Could it be? Are we bonding?

Bruce
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gatordave (gatordave)
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Well, It may take a little more than that. I am still on a mission to close down pyamid fraud, Ponzi schemes and corruption in government.

dave


Again, readers... "Ask not what your country can do for you; but rather what you can do for [not to] your country." JFK

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p.s. Diamond Club Investment pyramid scheme has thier "full size" pyramid scam board back up. Check it out. Is that the same as TTI, DC, and WEW only with captains, pilots, gem collectors, pollishers, cutters and miners??? it's all scam to me.

http://www.diamondclubinvestment.com/tutorial.html
CBN


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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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One thing I have noticed is the deathly silence from Pro TTI'ers..(with the exception of Pickeld Sausage who responded to the TTI news with great dignity)....But no Make7000?...No The Truth?....
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voice_of_reason (voice_of_reason)
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What News? TTI is still going strong here and running legally....
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Only in Canada...At the Moment, Voice.....At the moment....

(Message edited by cap'n blythe on November 30, 2005)

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real_truth (real_truth)
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To all-

I think we should only say "running".

"Running legally" is a big statement...
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Hey RT...good to have you back!
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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..and Voice of reason....You under-estimate Gatordave.....OK...so he CAN go too far...but who do you think marshalled the UK complaints against TTI?...Nobody in the UK would have known how to go about reporting TTI if Dave hadn't been so vocal...and so visible...and,because he's tried the Government channels in Canada..(With little luck I might add)...Dave could direct us through the proper channels here in the UK...(Thankfully the UK is more receptive to complaints than Canada...otherwise I might have had to buy my own Bullhorn!)
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gatordave (gatordave)
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Thanks Captian for those kind words of support.

“In a free market, all those who deal with companies whether as investors, suppliers or consumers should be protected from misconduct or unscrupulous practices.” - COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATION BRANCH - DTI - U.K.

There seems to be a definite conflict in the philosophy of Mr. Audley & Friends and the philosophy of the U.K. Department of Trade & Industry and with respect to their application of law.

Does the enlightenment of that statement then reveal Industry Canada, as I have indicated, a department of “Legal Neanderthals???” And those who subscribe to the notion the “the “Sharks” should be allowed to “eat the little fish” in our Canadian society” no better???....You know, those who advocate that anyone who tries to save the “little fish”, as the Canadian “VOICE_OF_REASON?????? points out “deserves to have the sh#t kicked out of him by [Neanderthal] cops and jail guards”

It seems the U.K. is a more understanding, more thoughtful, more just and a gentler and kinder society as it applies to the protecting of their citizens from pyramid fraud artists, sharks & crooks.

Something to think about.

dave


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bruce_audley (bruce_audley)
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"Dave" - Your usual cheap shot is duly noted. I do not subscribe to your ridiculous belief that "T.T.I.Co." operates in Canada purely because everyone here is "on the take". Our very own Canadian law matured from the foundation of the same British Law that worked in keeping "T.T.I.Co." out of the United Kingdom. I applaud their forward thinking but to suggest that everyone here is being paid under the table to look the other way concerning "T.T.I.Co.", is irresponsible at best, scandalous at the worst.

Your beautiful sentiments about the U.K. simply demand that you move there and stop beating up the great legal system that we have here in my native country. Because the law has not yet worked here the way Dave rules they must, apparently that gives you the right to abuse with impunity. Your simplistic and childish gloating tone, diminishes the celebration of the U.K. victory and further insults all of the wonderful Canadians that enjoy the freedoms that our legal system has afforded us.

True, our system has not been kind to you personally but I've got a news flash for you. If you think the U.K. legal system would have done you a better turn, you are sadly mistaken. You would in all probability, be posting your rants from a prison cell and not from the luxury of the freedom that you so callously take for granted.

Your little post aligning yourself with some of the greatest citizens of our time, was a new low of embarrassment for even you Dave. These dynamic individuals would squirm to think that they were being dragged unwillingly into your "Dave is the rightest, Dave is the bestest" rhetoric.

Please, PLEASE move to the U.K. and give every Canadian that finds your execessive written abuses insulting and demeaning, the best Christmas present they could ever hope to have!

Bruce
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Talk about the “pot & kettle.” Just what “cheap shot” are you referring to in that posting??? It’s a simple observation of the truth. I have always maintained the philosophy that consumers are entitled to be protected and told the truth, not “some smoke & mirrors” tricks just as it is reflected in the U.K. Laws.

“In a free market, all those who deal with companies whether as investors, suppliers or consumers should be protected from misconduct or unscrupulous practices.” - COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATION BRANCH - DTI - U.K.

The Audley philosophy has been made clear more than once, that there should be no laws in that regard and everyone irrespective of education, language barriers, age (both very young and seniors alike) the financially desperate etc., should be left with no legal protection? You clearly advocated that position...... here again as you factiously wrote.....“For now, all of the little high school children, the unemployed, the destitute and anyone else that is down trodden in our society, are free to throw their money wherever they want.....”

Have you changed your position in that these people should indeed be protected against the likes of Allan Kippax in this country as they have been against his cousins Peter and Andrew in the U.K.?

Do you still believe Mr. Audley, (if you ever really did) that TTI is perfectly legal in Canada and won’t be closed down???

Do you believe, as your position has been for months now, that this type of pyramid, using the decades old 8 loser 1 winner board should be allowed as long as there is a product attached even if by name only.

Now, Mr. Teflon Man could we get a clear position on those questions. And return to the subject.,

Dave ....CNN


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In response to your "know-it-all" speculation on how I would be treated in the U.K. let me say, it would appear to me with the evidence we now have, that in the U.K. the crooks who where in the pyramid fraud in my town would have been charged and on trial before they had the chance to trump up false "rape threatening charges against me" in retaliation, in order to protect the corrupt lawyer Frederick Wilson, the corrupt politician Jan Johnstone, and the other politicians, and OPP relatives and judges relatives, etc., and so-called upright business owners like yourself, and I would not have been dragged through a 2 year trail leaving me broke."

As I continually point out but you ignore in total denial as you protect the filthy corruption in this country with your rhetoric, is that Marion S. in Oakville was also falsely charged with threatening for trying to get her daughter and her friend's money back in a pyramid fraud also run by a lawyer.

Maybe you could find a story in the U.K. where the authorities trumped up charges on people who tried to assist victims of a pyramid fraud instead of charging the crooks, since acting as the Great "I AM" Bruce you see to now know how they would enforce the law in the U.K. to also falsely jail me.

You are so full of yourself, talk about the "Law by Dave" and "Hanging them high", and your wife Jill approves of you spewing this gossiping garbage, as reflected in your other posts? Like in ""You go get em' tiger" I guess “get ‘em” the "red neck" cowboy way. A lynch mob. Audley you require some much needed philosophical "adjustment". Go seek out a good psychologist or psychotherapist, one that deals in cyber-gossip and run some of your writings past her/him.

All I have been told is that I am having a normal reaction from some very horrific abnormal events. I have my letter from the psychiatrist where lying cops of the Waterloo Regional Police took me with a claim I called 911 when 911 records show that was absolutely false. Would you like me to print it again on another thread so we can leave this open to debate TTI., Mr. gossip?


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bruce_audley (bruce_audley)
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But Dave, the only one full of himself here is actually YOU! I have never stated that "T.T.I.Co." will not eventually be shut down here in Canada, merely that they are allowed to operate legally at this very moment. Your posting style continues to revolve around twisting the words of others and while it starts off entertaining, it quickly grows boring. Here we go again with the names of all the poor people what's bin' done wrong according to Dave. And now you suggest that the British legal system would have protected you as an innocent when all the Canadian system could do was throw you to the wolves.

Fortunately for you Dave, The Brits welcome Canadians as brothers/sisters and were I you, I would fly there tomorrow and you could start benefiting immediately from their protective legal system. Unfortunately for those of us Canadians that love our country, your past should make entering their great country almost impossible. Their gain, our lose.

Your silly little snipes, tip your hand Dave. A bully never sees himself for what he is. You are quick to accuse but, your mirror lies to you. You see yourself on a mightly white steed when in fact you ride a small donkey. You have this ongoing feeling that you have been called to duty to protect the unprotected. But it always comes back to one person, poor old Dave. If you are as successful protecting other Canadians as you are yourself, we are all in a lot of trouble. Fortunately for most of us, you only represent a couple of folks and that is what saves us all from feeling the unflinching might of "Dave's Law"!

Bruce
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While I doubt that anyone is still reading any of this, it now appears obvious to me that no matter what I post, Dave will draw a snippet, clip and paste and roll it around a couple of times to create an "alter post". Actually, all in all, not a bad trick don't you agree?

However, there is something about the latest round of his crazy attacks that I personally find threatening to my family and finally after months of ignoring their requests, I am withdrawing from this issue. My beliefs on "T.T.I.Co." are easy to follow for all but Dave and while a part of me welcomes the opportunity for great social debate, there is precious little of that from David Thornton.

Maybe I am simply letting a bully win or just maybe, I am protecting the family that I so love and care about. Whatever or however Dave views this withdrawal, I do not care. I will continue on this forum in the one issue that brought me here originally and those that have posted me directly through all of this, I still welcome your comments and friendship. Not all of us agree but the interaction is always appreciated.

Goodbye and remember this the next time you see a young child throwing sand in someone else's eye. His name is probably Dave!

Bruce Audley
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Iwas writing this and posted it before I saw your last sick post......

I know Bruce, I have been to England several times. And you’re the one that can’t leave my private life alone and keep raising it with your filthy innuendo.

Now about TTI. What kind of "double speak" is this? According to you at the moment TTI is operating "perfectly legally" you keep telling the world but, then you say they could be closed down!!! Could you explain that.

Like am I to understand that TTI in England was operating "perfectly legally" was closed down, and is still “perfectly legal” until they are convicted.

Are you not getting that mixed up with.... regardless of whether a suspect is guilty or innocent, (which of course is the way any suspect enters the court room) that the judge is to presume, the key word is presume the suspect is innocent. Now you are either totally "out to lunch" with your concepts or you are, with you superior vocabulary and skill at twisting semantics, attempting to confuse and "brainwash" the masses just like your TTI buddies.

It’s what I said before. A robber robs a bank. That is illegal and he's guilty. But the judge is supposed to put on the "blindfold of lady justice" and regardless of the fact he is guilty, presume that he is innocent until the evidence presented convinces the judge he is guilty. That does not mean the robbery was legal and he was innocent until he is pronounced guilty then everything becomes retroactive.

There is such a thing as prima facia evidence in order to even have a charge laid.

I mean imagine a man running down the street yelling the bank’s been robbed and some known-all-jeweler comes out of his shop saying that’s perfectly legal he hasn’t been convicted ...DU!!!! Then for over a year tries to prevent the man from getting the robber caught by discrediting him finally trying to make him look like Hannibal Lector as you’re doing at the other sick gossiping thread you post on. You have a real sick problem Cyber-Bruce.

Now, "WEW" pyramid fraud was illegal from the first $5000 that changed hands. The fact it wasn't "busted" for years did not make it legal until it was. Man this is so elementary it's ridiculous.

The problem is narrow minded people latch onto a popular adage and refuse to look at the origins.

The adage as I have pointed out before is not "Innocent until proven guilty." That’s what happened in my case and many more Canadians. I WAS INNOCENT until perjury was committed and a corrupt bias Judge Norman Douglas of Guelph “cherry picked” perjured evidence while disregarding credible evidence, not mine or my witnesses, but prosecutor’s witnesses. And only said I was guilty. The man who coined the phrase said "presumed innocent until proven guilty." not “innocent until proven guilty.” And that’s not manipulating semantics, that’s finding the truth. It’s common sense and you can look up the origin of the saying. It’s what called self-evident.

Any fool knows a bank robbery is illegal. Every individual bank robbery is not legal until the individual robber is convicted. BANK ROBBERY IS ILLEGAL!!! PERIOD. SO IS PYRAMID FRAUD!!! That’s not Dave’s Law, that’s the law of common sense.

And talk about silly snipes!!!! And a bully never see himself for what he is????? No kidding Bruce Audley. I have only reacted to absolute filth that has been throw at me and my family. Called a rapist, equated to a pig farmer that killed 60 women and strew their body parts all over a pig farm. Compared to Paul Bernardo and now to Hannibal Lector by you and that other gossiping sicko. Ya!!! Your right Bruce, absolutely, A bully never see himself for what he or she is!!! Did I ever compare you to the likes of that. What I have said is you fit the profile of these teenage girls, well documented using the same sick M.O. as you. Gang up on one and start sick vicious lies and rumors and spend hours in gossiping filth on the internet.

Now, will you take this somewhere else you sick gossip, and write about TTI. I’ll stare a new thread to deal with your insistent teenage vile vicious gossip.

The fact is I represent thousand more but because of vicious people like you and the pyramid fraud artists and bully cops intimidating them they don’t speak out. That’s all that gives you and the corruption you hang with your undeserved power.

And you still seem to deny we are fighting an election based upon corruption and ties to organized crime.

CBN


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And Bruce Audley writes ... “finally after months of ignoring their requests, I am withdrawing from this issue.”

Now, that’s interestingly contradictory, in that on the other thread just a couple of days ago Bruce was bragging his wife Jill was encouraging him. mmmm what to make of that then?

And don't blame me Bruce Audley for your withdrawing, It's obvious you withdrew as result of embasassment or perhaps you wife isn't the person you made her out to be, kissing you on the neck as you wrote she did, and saying as you quoted her "go get 'em tiger" as your wrote your filth of Hannibal Lector implying she supported your sick, gossip. I choose to think she’s better than that. It's my thought she finally read some of your self evident sick writings and put an end to it.

And if that's what she did you nasty little boy, Kudos to her. That's another way to "shut down cyber-bullies"

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Ok now that we're rid of that annoyance, TTI is shut down in the U.K. The ..."DTI PETITIONS TO WIND UP TREASURE TRADERS CORPORATION LTD"

Now, we need to get them shut down in Canada. I talked to one victim in Mississauga who is now willing to talk to police. I thought we should take out a news paper ad stating "TTI has been closed down in the U.K. Do you feel you have been scammed
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Any ideas???

dave
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voice_of_reason (voice_of_reason)
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Of course the ignorant, bullying, hypocritical Dave Thornton creates another victim to his incessant threatening crap, and doesn't even realize it.

Go back through the many posts and TTI threads and see all the people who have felt threatened by Dave.

Anybody else see a pattern of behaviour here? Probably not, as I imagine there are only 2 or 3 others still reading besides Dave and myself.

Dave, whether or not you "threatened to rape your wife" does not matter to us. You obviously mentally and verbally abused her, like you have to countless people on FACTNet. Why else would a "former missionary", " living a “fairytale life" leave you for the cook? Not because she was happy with the relationship methinks.

And you were arrested for causing a disturbance in 1991, as well as 2004 for using your trusty bullhorn in public. The 1991 disturbance had nothing to do with Pyramid frauds......

Pattern of behaviour ?

You had problems in the Seventies, eighties, nineties, and this decade. You first wife left you too.....

Pattern of behaviour ?

Congratulations Dave. Your name is spread all over the Internet. I hope it helps you when the hammer finally falls on you. I know that was your goal. To try to look like all your past offences were for a cause other than yourself. The problem as I see it for you Dave, is that the smokescreen that you have tried to create is so easy to see through.
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The vicious “VOICE” writes..... “Dave, whether or not you "threatened to rape your wife" does not matter to us.”

Of course it doesn’t. Neither does the truth of anything else."

Now, readers we have another annoyance to contend with on this thread. “VOICE” if you wish to continually annoy me with this crap take it to another thread. I’ll set it up.

So, readers, TTI boards are collapsing all over Canada. TTI has not opened in the U.S. TTI has been closed down by the U.K. This is no longer a WORLD-WIDE-ORGANIZATION as advertized. Its purpose and motive never was to distribute emeralds or gemstones. It was, and as long as it remains open, an illegal pyramid fraud.

If it is not closed down by the police and authorities or "someone" it is doomed to collapse under its own weight taking untold and unnecessary numbers of victims with it. The sad part is, like all pyramid fraud the masses who sign up last are the ones who can least afford it. Young people in schools colleges and universities, single parents mostly mothers, seniors, immigrants, ethnic communities, the financially unsophisticated, and the financially desperate.

And that’s the truth.

And the best “VOICE” can manage in rebuttal is to regurgitate his vilifying “vomit.” Take it to the other thread “VOICE”. I will meet you there.

Remember readers as far as credibility is concerned; I could have joined these crooks. As a "distributor" I was in early and could have made a fortune, and moved on to “Diamond Club Investors” and cleaned up there without all this aggravation. I could have become a fast friend and on the good side of this vicious anonymous sniping poster, just like Bruce did, and avoided all these vilifying attacks.

I don’t subscribe to being a “shark” feeding on the "little fish.” The money just does not do it for me.

dave CBN


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p.s. And thanks for all your help Michel and your support "CAP'T BLYTHE"

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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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The reason there may only be a few reading this at the moment is due to the Fact that TTI is in serious trouble...and all the Pro-TTI'ers are either "keeping their heads down"...or busy trying to get rid of their certificates while they can....
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real_truth (real_truth)
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Yes, we have not seen The Truth for a long time and Voice is now coming at rare occasions...

Perhaps TT is in UK trying to save TTI UK...
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capn_blythe (capn_blythe)
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Either that....or stood on a street corner somewhere shouting....."TTI CERTIFICATES...BUY ONE GET THREE FREE..."
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We are not alone. Here is another one!

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/12/prweb317311.htm

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gatordave (gatordave)
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And another one.

dave CBN


www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/13305845.htm

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voice_of_reason (voice_of_reason)
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http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1133823011678&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News
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More irrelevant Link Posting.....If you want to have a go at Dave...take it to the thread he set up for that purpose
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I think Voice is the one who needs a doctor. Don't get discouraged, Voice, it can still be cured by your doctor, but, please, go to another thread...
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gatordave (gatordave)
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I see from this link your rooting around at the bottom of that sewer. You had best come up for air before you drown in you own excrement. Your temples must just be pounding with lack of air and pure hate.

I didn't notice my name mentioned in that innuendo either. That news article relates to nothing I have done, am doing or been convicted for.

There truly is no depth in that sewer of yours that you won't risk your life to reach. Drowning in sewage is not a good way to go, get some prfessional help sick "VOICE." I think you must already know what I found out about TTI Canada and this is you last desperate attempt to smear the "whistle blower" who exposed it.

I warned you several times now, and I'll say it again, and not in big shouting words, "knock it off." remember I don't know who you are but I know Bruce Audley has your email and probably knows who you are or certainly how to find you


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voice_of_reason (voice_of_reason)
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http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1133391012248

(Message edited by voice_of_reason on December 07, 2005)
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http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1133391012248
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real_truth (real_truth)
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To Voice-

I thought the following could be of great interest to you and all of your friends:

http://www.statefarm.com/media/intro_code.htm#Conflicts
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real_truth (real_truth)
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To Voice-

You could also check this one:

http://www.statefarm.com/media/intro_code.htm#Ethical
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voice_of_reason (voice_of_reason)
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Michel,
I am not sure why those links would be of interest to me. I do not work for them, although they are a client, and I have access to the network from time to time.

The purpose of my links is to show to people how irrelevent the links Dave keeps posting are. They have nothing to do with the topic.

Dave writes:

"That news article relates to nothing I have done, am doing or been convicted for. "

The same can be said of all the irrelevent links he keeps posting.

No innuendo, no rumours, no "smears".
As I have repetedly said, I don't care if TTI is shut down, I have nothing to do with them. My problem is with the way Dave treats people. If you guys can sleep soundly at night condoning his actions, so be it.
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For the record, I'm telling you again "knock it off"

Most people following this can see how sick you are. It also establishes a record for others who can now demonstrate how vicious and evil you people are who promote pyrami fraud, so the next time a woman is arrested for allegedly making "death threats" it can clearly be demonstrated the lenghths you freaks will go to harass , intimidate and lie to have opponents arrested on false charges.

But to serve as a record that I did not sit idlely by without protest, I'm telling you again "knock if off" (legal terms cease and disist.

dave


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Oh my god Gatordave mit be in trouble

Factnet mit have to shut down. l got the monthly news letter and its say for people that dont' get it

"We have unfortunately missed our donation targets over the last 6 months. If we do not reach our December donation drive goal of at least $10,000, we will be forced to drastically cut back services and may have to shutdown FACTNet January 1st 2006 or temporarily go offline until we are able to raise this amount"

My god what would J.A.D do??? Factnet is his biggest way for you to write you crap.


J.A.D. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF FACTNET SHUT DOWN???????????????????
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real_truth (real_truth)
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Make700,

Do your part, make a donation to FactNet if you don't want to be considered as a free rider.
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gatordave (gatordave)
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Michael Shibley of Industry Canad is determined that pyramid fraud is going to continue in this country as he steadfastly, belligerently and contemptuously refuses to enforce the law against product based pyramid fraud until all the people at the top have their pockets full, the damage is done, and those that can lest afford it at the bottom are finally scammed. Students, seniors, ethnic groups, single parents, the financial desperate, and the financially unsophisticated.

The laws regarding illegal pyramid profit from ”downline” recruitment vis a vis profit from product selling is as clear in Canada Law as it is the U.K. This bureaucrat Michael Shibley responsible for thousands of citizens needlessly losing millions must be removed from one of the most important positions in government. In short he should be fired.

From the UK....... “The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry has presented a petition in the High Court to wind up Treasure Traders Corporation Ltd in the public interest.

The company operated a 'Pirate Ship' themed pyramid selling scheme. Investors paid £1,200 to sign up and were told to recruit further members of a ship 'crew'. They would move up to the position of 'captain' depending on how many recruits they could enrol.

Once the 'ship' had a full crew of eight members they were told to 'sail the high seas searching for gold' by taking a profit share of further investments.

In fact, many members of this scheme are receiving no return on their investment.


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