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     wmmw (wmmw) Intermediate Member Username: wmmw Post Number: 343 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 66.36.145.64 |
To all- If you think it's a good idea, I would suggest that Dave and capn_blythe open a PayPal account so you can send amounts of your choice in order to get the Chart of the new Foundation. Normally, a big lawyers office would charge $10,000-$12,000 to create it. My normal price is $3,500 but, since I think this cause is a very valuable one, I will do my big part by charging only $300, my out of pocket expenses, nothing else. As soon as I get the $300, I will create the Foundation and get it in a maximum of 48 hours from the Registrar since I have very good contacts there. | ||
| wmmw (wmmw) Intermediate Member Username: wmmw Post Number: 345 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 66.36.145.64 |
To all- I will also need the name, profession and address of a minimum of 3 persons with their title in the Foundation: President, vice-president, secretary/treasurer. I would suggest 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 or any number of directors you want. People can be from any country in the world but they must be 18 years old minimum. Send all the details to Dave since his e-mail address is public. Together! | ||
| the_truth (the_truth) Intermediate Member Username: the_truth Post Number: 162 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 205.239.196.6 |
Gee, it doesn't look like too many people are stepping up to the plate in running this so-called "Foundation". So, just out of curiousity, what exactly does the $300 go to, because I don't recall it being that much to register and set up a non-profit organization. God bless. | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1504 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
Phone Busters has stated that "Treasure Traders International is a pyramid fraud do not get involved." I believe no one in these agencies has stated TTI is legal. NO ONE! You have, I believe, shown yourself to be a liar. If not, post clearly, unequivocally, and unambiguously and on record, as I have, what government agency, individual, or police department has stated Treasure Traders International is “is perfectly” legal. Simple! Here is another “busted” product masked pyramid scam. http://www.gatewaynewspapers.com/coraopolis-moonrecord/54127/ PRODUCT does not, a pyramid scam make legal! And that again is the “Real_Truth” p.s. These are not "Dave's Stories" they are simply and obviously just posted by dave... FYI. | ||
| the_truth (the_truth) Intermediate Member Username: the_truth Post Number: 169 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 205.239.196.6 |
“PRODUCT does not, a pyramid scam make legal!” Nor does a specific compensation structure make a business illegal. If it were illegal “post clearly, unequivocally, and unambiguously and on record," which law has been violated. God bless. | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1514 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
At this point, that is not the issue. I was told more than once by people in official government agencies, Treasure Traders International is an illegal pyramid scheme. You claim people in these same organizations are stating TTI is legal. I say you are a liar. The issue here is, if that is not so, specifically name the branch of the police, an employee speaking officially for any government, agencies or individuals of authority who have stated TTI is legal!!! (the individuals name if possible) Again a simple question. dave. | ||
| the_truth (the_truth) Intermediate Member Username: the_truth Post Number: 182 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 205.239.196.6 |
Still legal. God bless. | ||
| the_truth (the_truth) Intermediate Member Username: the_truth Post Number: 190 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 205.239.196.6 |
“At this point, that is not the issue.” At this point, this is exactly the issue. If a business does not violate any laws, it clearly is deemed as legal. It’s obvious you’ve managed to skew anything that has been told to you that doesn’t support your senseless beliefs. For months you’ve called participants in this business a liar, yet you manage to spread lies about the facts of how this business runs. You tell us that the $1200 paid is not a result of the sale when clearly the receipt states verbatim “Option 3 – Redeem Cert. with no further payments and receive $1,200 retail value of gemstones”. Any supporting evidence that you’ve brought forward to defend the concept that this business is illegal has successfully been proven incorrect many times over on this very forum. Face it…you just don’t get it, no matter how hard you try. All government agencies continue to allow this business to run regardless of your claims. I mean, the RCMP, police, Industry Canada, etc…all have access to see the locations of the various Fleetports across the 2 countries…so why isn’t any action being taken if it is illegal like you say they claim. Why is there no info on any government sites telling us this has been found to be an illegal pyramid fraud? Why are you the only person that has been told that this is illegal while everyone else has been told everything but that? Is this really a government cover-up or could it be that it is in fact perfectly legal? We’ll let the readers decide! God bless. | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1528 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
Again avoiding the question." The point is, you were telling readers the police and government officials have stated TTI is legal. That's the big lie. You are unable to produce one agency nor individual that has stated TTI is legal contrary to such claims. That is what all pyramids have in common. i.e.. When "buying a diamond".... "Endorsed by the Ontario Management Board of Cabinet. This is a government entity set up to oversee, review, endorse and, or refute companies in the private sector. It sets up standards by which companies are measured. The review, led by a Government-level attorney investigates the companies business plan, management and structure, financials, etc. To pass the review and receive a Queen's Counselor endorsement is a powerful statement as to the viability and credibility of the company in question." Do you people work out of the same office? Now, what individual, or agencey stated TTI was legal as you claim. Without that, you are a liar. | ||
| capn_blythe (capn_blythe) New member Username: capn_blythe Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 213.106.85.232 |
Truth wrote: "So, just out of curiousity, what exactly does the $300 go to" Why.... You Got a Pyramid we can "Invest" the 300 in...? Hmm...on second thoughts...we'd be better off going to the track with it....more chance of getting a return that way..... (Message edited by cap'n blythe on October 30, 2005) | ||
| gatordave (gatordave) Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 1855 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.141.185.22 |
Michael Shibley of Industry Canad is determined that pyramid fraud is going to continue in this country as he steadfastly, belligerently and contemptuously refuses to enforce the law against product based pyramid fraud until all the people at the top have their pockets full, the damage is done, and those that can lest afford it at the bottom are finally scammed. Students, seniors, ethnic groups, single parents, the financial desperate, and the financially unsophisticated. The laws regarding illegal pyramid profit from ”downline” recruitment vis a vis profit from product selling is as clear in Canada Law as it is the U.K. This bureaucrat Michael Shibley responsible for thousands of citizens needlessly losing millions must be removed from one of the most important positions in government. In short he should be fired. From the UK....... “The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry has presented a petition in the High Court to wind up Treasure Traders Corporation Ltd in the public interest. The company operated a 'Pirate Ship' themed pyramid selling scheme. Investors paid £1,200 to sign up and were told to recruit further members of a ship 'crew'. They would move up to the position of 'captain' depending on how many recruits they could enrol. Once the 'ship' had a full crew of eight members they were told to 'sail the high seas searching for gold' by taking a profit share of further investments. In fact, many members of this scheme are receiving no return on their investment. www.crimebustersnow.com |
