Tape 7, August 30, 1998

Lawrence Wollersheim and Jesse Prince

L:	Do you think anyone of them knows all of it?
J:	I think the ones that I just said all know.
L:	You mentioned that the top people with the vacations and they money they're getting and all the gratuities they're taking off the top of Scientology could be making as much as $500,000 a year to $700,000 a year. If Miscavige is letting those people take that amount of money and he's got a safe full of gold and silver bars and precious coins, would it be unreasonable to think that he's taking more than they area?
J:	That's all hypothetical, speculation, and I'm going to stick to the facts.
L:	Just wanted to see if you have an idea, if you don't, you don't. There's a couple of other attorneys: Keith True, has his own law firm, Bridge Publications.
J:	Never heard of him.
L:	Johnson & O'Meara.
J:	That sounds familiar.
L:	Leo Johnson, Nancy O'Meara.
J:	What did they do?
L:	They're members of the board of COST. Sherman Lenske, we talked about him.
J:	This 1981 - See, prior to me becoming an international executive, I was just a person that worked at Flag on technical lines, and didn't understand what MCCS was about, or all that corporate sort, all those missions, I was just not a part of it. By the time I did become part of international management, not only was it still not part of my areas of control, it had pretty much happened, and they were just tweaking it a little bit by making these other corporations, CST, and this other one that I mentioned about.
L:	Secret corporations somewhere in California, that they transfer everything to.
J:	If something happens to CSC then it goes to that corporation.
L:	What the IRS doesn't know about is, see, Scientology set up a deal with the IRS where one corporation leases the copyrights and trademarks to another one, and one of the things the IRS was very concerned with, as best I understand it, is that the assets were moving from corporation to corporation, and the were very upset that the assets would go back to COST. What you're telling me is that there's even a back-up secret corporation beyond CST where the assets will go if problem?
J:	Yeah, and I don't know exactly how secret it is, I know it has to be registered. It can't be a corporation that exists without it being registered. But there was one that was outside of my knowledge, that was set up by the attorneys, as is all the other ones, to keep moving money around.
L:	Did you ever hear anyone speak of the total net worth of Scientology? Anyone ever say, "We're worth 2 billion, 5 billion, 3 billion."
J:	No, we kind of went over this the last time we did this.
L:	Just checking. Have you heard anything about a bullet proof, bomb-proof bunker being built, they're nicknaming it The Fort?
J:	Yes, there's a video about it by Norman Starkey. That specifically, with the titanium and explosion proof, and radiation proof, and on and on and on and on. This is on plates with gold on them, all the stuff is on plates etched in gold.
L:	Is that the Mendicino storage site that's dug into the side of a, up in Mendicino?
J:	I believe it is, I believe that's where CST is up there.
L:	Mendicino county, a little town right on the -
J:	Up in the mountains.
L:	Have you heard anything about, there's some new construction of a bullet proof, bomb proof, bunker, they're calling it The Fort in Hemet?
J:	No.
L:	Is your belief they would build something like this just because they're afraid of a nuclear war, or -
J:	Speculation. I don't know what they hell they're doing it for.
L:	Do you know anything about an attorney by the name of Charles Parcell?
J:	That name sounds familiar, but I don't, I have nothing to relate it to.
L:	Is there any other act, criminal or otherwise that you think that I have not asked you about? I hate to make this sound like a sec check question. I sounds a little bit like that.
J:	And you know I'm tired of it.
L:	I really need to know Jesse, have you remembered anything in the past few days that is something about Scientology that people should know about that's either dangerous or criminal, or just wrong, or just vicious, or cruel, or ruthless, whatever you want to call it, that in your experience when you were in really stuck in your mind as "This is just way over the line?"
J:	There is, there's nothing new. I've said everything to the best of my ability.
L:	Let's finish up here. We are done.
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