Tape 7, August 30, 1998

Lawrence Wollersheim and Jesse Prince

L:	What else would Sue Price know?
J:	Sue Price?
L:	I mean not Sue Price, but Pat Brice, beside the copyright fraud that you talked about?
J:	Now that's an interesting question. She was L. Ron Hubbard's personal secretary. Therefore, she would receive separate instructions from him, as I would from my position in the organization. I'm not privy to everything that was sent to her.
L:	Would she be aware of the vast amounts of cash that were delivered to L. Ron Hubbard?
J:	No, but Mike Eldridge would.
L:	Mike Eldridge. What other executives that have left Scientology would have knowledge about criminal activities in the oganization?
J:	Don Larson.
L:	Don Larson. What type of?
J:	Financial.
L:	Financial, like moving money to foreign countries?
J:	Moving money, extorting money, blackmailing - .
L:	Extortion, blackmail? Specifically when you say extortion, do you a memory of something specific?
J:	The mission holders.
L:	Blackmail and extortion over the mission holders, to take their accounts away from them, these separate corporations?
J:	Right.
L:	Anything else that he would have knowledge about?
J:	Bank transfers. He would have more specific detail about where the money goes.
L:	Like foreign countries, foreign accounts?
J:	Right. Who, what names are under.
L:	Who is signatories -
J:	Right.
L:	Do you have any idea where he was last located?
J:	I mean, he's on that video, I'm sure he can be found.
L:	What other executives have left Scientology that would have knowledge of criminal activities?
J:	Vicky and Rick Aznaran.
L:	Vicky and Rick Aznaran, what would Vicky know?
J:	Specifically about the black operations by Scientology, perpetrated on their own public, on staff members and the public, and people in general.
L:	You mean, black operations on public on-lines in good standing. Covert operations on -
J:	Right.
L:	The people that weren't declared -
J:	Let me put it in focus. Like we bug Holly and Bill Finell, that kind of thing. Bugging staff members, doing these. These things that I spoke of.
L:	Did they ever bug public persons who weren't staff members that you know of?
J:	David Mayo.
L:	OK.
J:	I am not telling you anything new, I'm just answering the question in a different way, I've answered that before. You ask me what other executives, Vicky Aznaran, Rick Aznaran.
L:	Would she know any more about the bugging, or any other criminal acts that Vicky Aznaran would have been privy to?
J:	Maybe, maybe not. I think her affidavits before she was bought off speaks for themselves.
L:	What about Rick Aznaran, what other criminal activity do you think he was involved with?
J:	Financial, and black ops.
L:	Black corporate operations, stealing records, things like that?
J:	As I've said earlier, planting drugs on people, this kind of shit.
L:	What other executives do you think that have left Scientology, Pat Broeker, what would be the kind of knowledge that he would have?
J:	Corporate sham. Financial sham, just money on demand for L. Ron Hubbard. Cash, no checks. Cash.
L:	Were there records kept of this cash?
J:	None that I was privy to.
L:	Would he know if the will of L. Ron Hubbard was authentic or not?
J:	Yep.
L:	He would know if the will or the estate, the last will and testament was a forgery or was a real thing? Who else would know if Hubbard's last will and testament was -
J:	That's outside of the church?
L:	Or inside the church.
J:	Ray Mithoff would know, Norman Starkey would know, David Miscavige would know. As I said earlier in our interview, David Miscavige and Norman Starkey could imitate L. Ron Hubbard's signature perfectly. They showed it to me and laughed about it. That's the best I can answer that question.
L:	Do you know any other executives who left Scientology who would have knowledge of Scientology's criminal activities?
J:	No.
L:	Mark Yeager?
J:	Has left?
L:	I didn't know if he was still in or not.
J:	That's the point.