Tape 4, August 25, 1998 (Continued from Tape 3)

Lawrence Wollersheim and Jesse Prince

L:	OK, let's keep going.
J:	OK. [Reading] "#18. The names of former GO, OSA auditors, staff or medical officers who would have had access to information or been involved in handling of member suicides, attempted suicides, psychoses or neuroses related to Scientology services." Yeah, person, Martine, a French woman, I forget her name. She was a medical officer. She was there for Phoebe, she was there for Diane Morrison, she was there for that kid who had an aneurysm and died and worked in RTRC as a medical person.
L:	OK. Anybody else that you can think of as we're talking?
J:	No.
L:	OK. A few minutes ago we were talking about evacuation plans, and the other day you mentioned to me a Fran Harris, thought she might be questioned or arrested.
J:	She was sent to Europe.
L:	Who sent her to Europe?
J:	David Miscavige.
L:	Is it the practice of Scientology that if the government, or court is trying to get a certain member to the witness stand who has damaging information that they will be ordered to a different country and transferred away?
J:	Right.
L:	What was Fran Harris involved in?
J:	Criminal reg deals. I mean, she was raping the orgs. They came up with this idea minimum book stocks. ASI has their stats down, so they systematically started going through the orgs, sending someone there to inspect, like they were acting in the exact same capacity as a Religious Technology Center, or CSI would at the time, of just going in inspecting the bookstores. Saying, "You don't have enough books, buy these books now, cut us a check." On it goes to their weekly state, everybody gets their weekly commission and we're all happy.
L:	When you say gets their commission, are some of these executives getting technology on how much money they take out of the organizations?
J:	Yes, absolutely.
L:	Describe these commissions?
J:	Fran Harris got plenty, Ray Willhare got plenty.
L:	When you say plenty, how much commission would they receive?
J:	Hundred, thousands.
L:	Thousands of dollars on these. While the other Sea Org members are making $20, $30 a month, these two are making thousands on commissions on forcing books into these organizations. Did these organizations have a right to refuse to buy?
J:	No, they had no right whatsoever. Also, Author Services made commission as a corporation -