Tape 2, August 24, 1998

Lawrence Wollersheim and Jesse Prince

L:	Scientology helped arrange the divorce from Mimi Rogers.
J:	And did the settlement, yes. And the settlement, I think she got $10 million.
L:	$10 million.
J:	And then they took Tom Cruise -
L:	Was Mimi Rogers a member of Scientology at the time?
J:	She was said to be a "disaffected Scientologist." In order words she wasn't really having anything to do with Scientology.
L:	There was no attorneys involved, was this just strictly Marty? Who arranged the divorce?
J:	Lyman Spurlock. Lyman Spurlock did the - . David Miscavige was very instrumental in the divorce.
L:	When you say he was instrumental, what do you think he did?
J:	Basically told Tom Cruise, spoke to him and pointed out his deficiencies, like, your finances are totally under control, you are dyslectic, you're having a hard time reading things, there are certain things you're having a hard time with. We can help you. You just have to go along and do what we tell you.
L:	Tom Cruise is dyslectic?
J:	Yeah.
L:	He has a hard time reading?
J:	You know, transposing words.
L:	They told Tom Cruise, just do what we tell you.
J:	Pretty much, you're in good hands, we have all this experience, Lyman has corporate experience, he's a certified public accountant. He sat down and sat down and did all the audit and the books for Tom Cruises' finances. Then -
L:	So they got all of Tom Cruise's finances, complete knowledge of this guy's life.
J:	Everything, complete knowledge. This is what tops it off. He now likes this Nicole Kitman, and he has a fantasy of just running through a field of tall grass with Nicole Kitman. What happens is they bring up to the Giman Hot Springs location and the have had people in Golden Air Productions for weeks staying up overnight, just extended schedules, de-rocking, plowing a field, planting tall wheat grass that will grow, and when Nicole Kitman came, here's a field, now they're running through the damn field of grass. It took weeks.
L:	How much money do you think was spent to create that?
J:	Tens of thousands of dollars.
L:	To create a field of grass fantasy so that Tom Cruise could seduce Nicole Kitman at this Scientology compound called -
J:	Golden Air Productions.
L:	Golden Air Productions.
J:	They were given beautiful lavish rooms with beautiful leather in it, things like -
L:	Room service.
J:	Maids, room service 5 star chef.
L:	Were they charged? They had their own chef?
J:	They had a French pastry chef in Scientology, and another just a 4 star regular cook chef, Carl, somebody, he was a South African fellow. Any meal they wanted on request.
L:	Did this happen just one time.
J:	No, multiple times. Every time, throughout his whole "OT levels" and in between movies. Now this was happening during the time he was doing that Days of Thunder, because Scientology even went so far as to develop for him a specific sound system because they said he was upset about the way they recorded his voice on the set. They actually put together a special recording system on the set for him and sent a couple of Scientology staff members, Steve Marlow and Luigi to be on the set of Days of Thunder to record. They were a complete nuisance to the case and crew. They hated them. They came in wheeling this big thing in Montana on location, a stellar box recorder. All of this was developed and staff members worked day and night perfecting something specifically for him. Of course, he never paid for anything but the equipment.
L:	So Scientology is also sending staff -
J:	Stroking them hard, these celebrities.
L:	- staff members to travel with these celebrities. Are they observing and writing reports?
J:	Experts.
L:	Are they writing reports and sending them uplines on what they're seeing. They're like intelligence reports on who the celebrity is associating with, if the celebrity is having problems, if the celebrity needs to be handled. Did you ever see a report on a celebrity?
J:	No, but I know those that were writing them, like I said, Luigi and -
L:	Writing and sending them uplines. Who would get these?
J:	David Miscavige.
L:	So David Miscavige was providing people an entourage that were providing him with on sight observation and services.
J:	The celebrities would "unusual services".
L:	These were free, they weren't paying for this?
J:	No.
L:	What other celebrities would receive these gifts or staying at these elaborately expensive special quarters and special services. Travolta?
J:	Travolta, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman -
L:	Kirstie Alley?
J:	Kirstie Alley. I only saw her one of two times though. Chick Corea would often be they're getting special handling, Ray Mithoff, all of their top auditors
L:	They would bring out their top auditors, people that you would have to pay $1,000 an hour at Flagg, $500 if you requested Bob Mithoff you would be charged an outrageous amount, right? They were getting these services free from - Were there any other divorces that Scientology was involved in, or breaking up celebrity couples, or matching celebrity couples. Did you ever hear of anything?
J:	Lisa Marie. When she started in with Michael Jackson. David Miscavige just had an insane fascination for Michael Jackson. The whole crew had to listen to his music. We would have special showings, make sure you watch the Thriller video.
L:	The whole staff would have to watch Michael Jackson movies? Was this before Michael Jackson got an audit?
J:	This was while all of this was going on. David would proudly announce how we just almost got Michael Jackson, we're doing everything that we can, and Lisa Marie, and. I guess it didn't work out.
L:	Do you know anything about the details of what happened?
J:	I'll tell you want I do know. They had a good relationship, however, with Jackson's people, to the point where L. Ron Hubbard Battlefield Earth album was coming out and the executive producer of the Thriller album was a man named Bruce Swadine. He agreed to come out, based on the relationship that existed with Michael Jackson and Lisa to come out and work on the Battlefield Earth album. They shot themselves in the foot on that part, because Bruce Swadine's wife came in with him, I guess he didn't want to be alone, he had allocated a certain amount of days to work on this Battlefield project for them, and his wife wore cologne, perfume. She came into their magnificently elaborate studio wearing that cologne, and you know, no one at that base is allowed to wear any form of fragrance. The one person who was told, I forget her name, a little blonde girl, she was told to speak to his wife about her smelling, and she actually went to Bruce Swadine's wife and said that cologne you are wearing is irritating, it's stinking up the whole place. She was rough. She just had a fit, ran to Bruce and told him, and they left that day. He was like, "what kind of people are you? You people are nuts." The girl's name was Marilyn somebody. She ended up having to do conditions forever. That just blew it. She was told.
L:	That blew the Michael Jackson deal?
J:	Completely. I mean I know you didn't hear much about Michael Jackson after that.
L:	Did he get any auditing?
J:	I think he may have got something, I don't know personally, he might have gotten a little bit of something.
L:	Do you think that there was anything suggested by the church that if Lisa Marie got him into Scientology, that she would be a special star, that she would obtain, be considered a very important person if she got him into Scientology?
J:	I can't really say that. I don't have knowledge. I do have knowledge that she got as much free auditing as she wanted.